The simple truth of Dak Prescott

Whirlwin · May 5, 2020

Cowboy Brian said:
Not if Andy Dalton has anything to say about it

Andy Dalton LOL he just about beat out rush. I don’t think he Beats out the rookie the rookie

SteveTheCowboy · May 5, 2020

Big_D said:
You mean the guy who just threw 5 TDs in 3 postseason games with a trip to the Championship game? Beat NE and BAL on the road? 5-3 road record on the season? Is that the guy you're talking about! Now we claim Dak is "BETTER" Why regular season stats? lmao. Because of Tannehills time in Miami? Dak beat the Eagles 4 times in a row in case anyone was wondering exactly what makes him worth the money!! How amazing is that?? Give him 40 million, 35 is too light.

The NFC East has been the laughing stock of NFL for several years. Yep Eagles got them a SB......maybe a fluke maybe not. Interestingly...without their "franchise QB" at the helm. So be careful so casually throwing around NFC East divisional wins.

Seven · May 5, 2020

rocyaice said:
Props to @jterrell for bringing the real. Truth and honesty. We need more on this site. You 100% right.

How is rumor 100% right?

SteveTheCowboy · May 5, 2020

Whirlwin said:
Andy Dalton LOL he just about beat out rush. I don’t think he Beats out the rookie the rookie

Wish I knew what you meant to say here.

TheMarathonContinues · May 5, 2020

Seven said:
How is rumor 100% right?

What rumor are you referring to?

Established1971 · May 5, 2020

jterrell said:
So many threads with wasted energy going around and round when none of that matters.

There are basic truths fans will simply have to come to grips with.

Dak Prescott will likely not earn less than 30M per year(AAV) at any point over the next 8 or 9 seasons. --as a side note Gary Myers was in Dallas before NY and his take was simply false and silly but pandering to Giants fans makes sense in that market. He was second rate here and that has continued on in NYC. You can safely say stupid things that will never be dis-proven and Dak isn't going to be a Free Agent anytime soon to make Gary apologize for his pandering.

Dak Prescott will almost assuredly end his career as the all-time Dallas Cowboys passing leader. He averages almost 250 yards per game passing. That's significantly higher than Romo who was the best of anyone with 20+ starts. Dak was over 300 yards per game last year.

Dak Prescott will likely end up with at least the second most wins in Cowboys history. At this pace, 10 wins a season, he'd pass Tony Romo on his next deal be it 4 years or anything greater. Troy would take him 6 seasons, Roger 5. Troy only had 27 wins through 4 full NFL seasons. Dak is on a pace 13 wins ahead of that. Romo had 6 wins at this age.

Dak Prescott had holes in his game prior to 2019. He would get lazy with footwork and throw some inaccurate passes. He fumbled a bit too much. But 2019 showed a drastic improvement in those areas. And why not. He is using Tom Brady's personal QB coach for development. In 2019 he performed at a rate that was elite. He was a top 5 passer for 2019. His weapons and offense got better this off-season. Potentially markedly so.

Anyone with actual intellect has already grasped all these things. They are completely confused by the so very awful "Dak isn't good" takes. It is really hard to tell if the authors of those takes are trolls, just dumb as dirt, hurt Romo-stans or some other weird affliction. If you hold such a weird opinion perhaps ask yourself to which group you belong and see about removing yourself. Because you are talking out of your butt about our franchise QB.

Why oh why would you write those first 6 paragraphs and then drag down all your well-laid out points into the mud and add that needless 7th paragraph? You don't think your points were strong enough? Your last paragraph just makes you look mean-spirited, vindictive, childish and hypocritical. It's almost as if you wrote it all, went to take a leak, your little brother came in and added a paragraph, you didnt notice, came back and hit send. Have more faith in yourself next time and just make your points.

p.s. in case you havent noticed in half the franchises in the NFL they have a qb with all the team records, then someone comes along and breaks them, then another qb comes along and breaks those, then another. It has way more to do with rule changes, coaching philosophy, copy cat game plans, extended schedules, improved medicine etc.

Dak's gonna break records and probably have way more playoff wins than Tony and likely Danny White. Is he better? Its a healthy debate, that is unless you want to get all grade school nasty like you did here

MarcusRock · May 5, 2020

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
I got one line for the Dak hate group.

GET OFF MY DAK.

Now here's a guy who's thinking with his head.

Big_D · May 5, 2020

morat1959 said:
Lol! Preach! Let’s go 45!

He's clearly worth much more!!! 45 doesn't even do it justice. He's that good.

Seven · May 5, 2020

rocyaice said:
What rumor are you referring to?

Go back and read the post......the word is there. Like it should be in every Dak contract post.

NOBODY knows what the hold up is excluding Jed, Stevie, Dak and his agent.

TheMarathonContinues · May 5, 2020

Seven said:
Go back and read the post......the word is there. Like it should be in every Dak contract post.

NOBODY knows what the hold up is excluding Jed, Stevie, Dak and his agent.

No need to reread it. I'm confused to what you are saying is a rumor. You're saying the whole post is a rumor?

Seven · May 5, 2020

rocyaice said:
No need to reread it. I'm confused to what you are saying is a rumor. You're saying the whole post is a rumor?

Good gosh......I refuse to talk with spin masters.
Don't play the fool...... you're much smarter than this

OmerV · May 5, 2020

jterrell said:
Not dismissing these points out of hand because some are fair.
BUT the game itself is passing for more yardage every year.
And Aaron Rodgers NEVER had weapons like this.
He was throwing to guys drafted outside the top 50 more the most part.
He had 1 guy drafted top 50 in 12 seasons.and that was Jordy Nelson who was a star there.

Dallas didn't pay Amari 20m per and draft a WR at 17 to not pass it.
They'll sling it.
275 wouldn't be bad at all but again 325 wouldn't be shocking.
Same OC, more aggressive Head Coach, better receiving weapons.

My point is Dak is VERY LIKELY to achieve these basic accomplishments.
These are not stretches or hard to get to.
These are you sign the deal you likely get these.
And this is the guy getting trashed by some weird segment of the "fan base".
Led by guys on TV and radio who are PAID to be foils and have these bad takes they don't even believe.

You don't think DeVonte Adams, Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb in their prime were comparable? And GB didn't have Zeke taking a share of the offensive load.

Clearly Rodgers could have put up more than one 300+ypg season, but the Packers were worried about winning, not just piling up all the passing yards they could.

The point is, it doesn't take passing for 300+ yards per game to get to have team success, much less the 325 you mentioned for Dak. In 2019 the Chiefs won it all with Mahomes throwing for 288 ypg. The Pats won in 2018 with Brady throwing for 272 ypg, AND with the 5th best rushing team in the NFL. The Eagles won in 2017 and only averaged 248 ypg passing, but had the 3rd best rushing team in the NFL. In short, teams don't feel they have to put up the best fantasy passing numbers to win. It's all about how to move the ball and control the game.

And no, they didn't pay Amari that kind of money not to pass it, nor did they pay Zeke that kind of money not to run it. They paid that kind of money to have all the weapons they could - so teams couldn't load up stopping one aspect of the team without getting beat by another. Besides, they can still pass it plenty without Dak averaging 300 ypg, much less the 325 you talked about.

As for passing more and more every year, Jameis Winston was the only QB other than Dak that threw for over 300 ypg last year, and there wasn't a single team that was interested in him as a starting QB for 2020. Teams don't want to throw just to throw, they want to control the game, and it that can be done without throwing for 300+ ypg.

Diehardblues · May 5, 2020

Longboysfan said:
Not really he just voiced his opinion.
Which he is allowed to do here.

He did more than voice his opinion. He also insulted anyone who doesn’t completely align and agree with him.

That’s trolling in another aspect by attempting to discredit other opinions by attacking them personally.

He could have made his case without such rhetoric. But that’s what trolls do.

Rogerthat12 · May 5, 2020

Diehardblues said:
He did more than voice his opinion. He also insulted anyone who doesn’t completely align and agree with him.

That’s trolling in another aspect by attempting to discredit other opinions by attacking them personally.

He could have made his case without such rhetoric. But that’s what trolls do.

Crazy how after all these years of forum life that the basics of informal logic are still constantly abused.

Logical fallacy number one, do not attack the person, attack the cogency of the argument.

Attacking the person demonstrates a weak argument and poor logic thus the need to insult the person directly for not concurring with your argument and opinion.

Even if you have a sound and valid argument and true premise, using logical fallacies to underwrite the force of an argument demonstrates poor logic and argumentation ethics.

Diehardblues · May 5, 2020

Rogerthat12 said:
Crazy how after all these years of forum life that the basics of informal logic are still constantly abused.

Logical fallacy number one, do not attack the person, attack the cogency of the argument.

Attacking the person demonstrates a weak argument and poor logic thus the need to insult the person directly for not concurring with your argument and opinion.

Even if you have a sound and valid argument and true premise, using logical fallacies to underwrite the force of an argument demonstrates poor logic and argumentation ethics.

Yep and typical of today’s society and social media.

If you don’t agree with me or see things as I do you must be an idiot or have underlying agendas.

Qcard · May 5, 2020

Big_D said:
A top O line and RB, can't score on their opening drive and middle of the pack in the red zone. Sure lets blame the D. I don't hate Dak, just no reason to pay him 35 million a year when this team can get the same results at a fraction while upgrading the rest of the roster.

A top O line? I somewhat agree because the Stats don't lie. 2019 Cowboy Oline ranks along side Rams, Chiefs, Patriots and Saints to round out top 5. But I'll hang the same Dak argument. Stats are nice but our Oline wasn't dominant. They started slow and never dominated even when they played well. Gone is the 2016 Oline that bullied opponents (ps. When we reflect on the wasted talent in Garrett's era...we will all have reflective vomit).

So hypothetically you start Andy Dalton at $3M ($7M if starts all games and playoffs) then you load the defense with top free agents, good draft picks and excellent coaching.... :lmao:

You can't hide Andy Dalton's slow feet and zero off script abilities at 32 yrs and win a Superbowl

Eventually your QB has to make plays and Andy Daltons play making days are over..we don't have the Oline to protect the an immobile cannon.

Dalton had better or even talent like Dak in his 1st 4 years sadly they both had good guy coaches...

bsbellomy · May 5, 2020

jterrell said:
Cousins had won 2 NFL games by this age for Dak.
He was 4 games under .500 for his career with them.
He still got paid a boat load of money.
Last year he beat Drew Brees in the playoffs before losing to The SB bound 49ers.
WAS just drafted top 5 again.

Dak has won 40 games and lost 24..

I was more referring to your certainty that he will be signed.

Whyjerry · May 5, 2020

The simple truth about Dak...

4th rounder
Saved the Cowboys his rookie season
Has been a consistently good player for 4 years
Tough guy and a good leader
Has significantly outperformed his rookie deal and is one of the great 4th rounders in team history
Played his best last year
He has a D bag agent
Agent has got into his head
Thinks he deserves to be paid at the top
He is a good but not great QB so why should he expect to be the top paid QB
Length of contract and AAV still being disputed
It is becoming a distraction
New coach is not sold on him
The likelihood Dak is not a Cowboy in the future is increasing

That’s the story.

GMO415 · May 5, 2020

The "anyone with actually intelligence" statement wasn't necessary.....

kskboys · May 5, 2020

Established1971 said:
Why oh why would you write those first 6 paragraphs and then drag down all your well-laid out points into the mud and add that needless 7th paragraph? You don't think your points were strong enough? Your last paragraph just makes you look mean-spirited, vindictive, childish and hypocritical. It's almost as if you wrote it all, went to take a leak, your little brother came in and added a paragraph, you didnt notice, came back and hit send. Have more faith in yourself next time and just make your points.

p.s. in case you havent noticed in half the franchises in the NFL they have a qb with all the team records, then someone comes along and breaks them, then another qb comes along and breaks those, then another. It has way more to do with rule changes, coaching philosophy, copy cat game plans, extended schedules, improved medicine etc.

Dak's gonna break records and probably have way more playoff wins than Tony and likely Danny White. Is he better? Its a healthy debate, that is unless you want to get all grade school nasty like you did here

Have to agree. Ruined what was a good thread.

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