How to prevent players slacking off after big payday?

What is this the cheap bastid convention? Let the billionaire owners worry about this crap.

This is just silliness. The fact is that the cap is not only a ceiling but also a floor. The team literally has to spend the money. So, who you gonna pay? Not paying isn't an option.

Red Dragon said:

We've seen it before: A guy like Zeke holds out before the season, demanding a big payday, and everyone talks about how the Cowboys can't win without him, and Jerry must cave and pay him what he wants - but once he does get the money, he has no more incentive to give it his all and just slacks off.

How to prevent this from happening with Dak, Amari, and any of the other players the Cowboys are in line to give big contracts to? It's a no-win situation. Don't pay him, and you're doing him wrong and he might defect to some other, but pay him and then not only do you pinch your salary cap but he just eases and slacks off from now on, money secure.

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B.B!!!!!

GimmeTheBall! said:

How could we tell if Dak slacks off?

"Hey, Dak is playing sub-average instead of average. He must be slacking off."

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Your total obsession with injecting your pure hatred for Dak into every single thread is quit impressive.

Sliding scale with major incentives.

BotchedLobotomy said:

Your total obsession with injecting your pure hatred for Dak into every single thread is quit impressive.

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Yes, quite.

Red Dragon said:

We've seen it before: A guy like Zeke holds out before the season, demanding a big payday, and everyone talks about how the Cowboys can't win without him, and Jerry must cave and pay him what he wants - but once he does get the money, he has no more incentive to give it his all and just slacks off.

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Missed the entire training camp yet still still carried 301 times for 1357 yards, 12 rushing TDs and 54 receptions on top of it. Yeah, he really slacked off.

Some of the narratives around this place are mind-boggling. They exist and thrive no matter what evidence contradicts them. Feelz > Facts

Red Dragon said:

We've seen it before: A guy like Zeke holds out before the season, demanding a big payday, and everyone talks about how the Cowboys can't win without him, and Jerry must cave and pay him what he wants - but once he does get the money, he has no more incentive to give it his all and just slacks off.

How to prevent this from happening with Dak, Amari, and any of the other players the Cowboys are in line to give big contracts to? It's a no-win situation. Don't pay him, and you're doing him wrong and he might defect to some other, but pay him and then not only do you pinch your salary cap but he just eases and slacks off from now on, money secure.

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Maybe have some incentives in the contract.

Fill your team with younger players desperate to sign their next contract. Say goodbye to older players looking to sign their final contract. It really is that simple. Unfortunately it is not the way we do business under the current ownership.

da_boyz_mk said:

The players themselves either have that self motivation or they don’t.

You can’t make them or prevent them from doing anything.

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Leadership from the staff can help
Allowing a guy to skate by and still be on the field tells others they can do it too

Easy solution, just let them all leave after rookie contract.

Have contracts that are more incentive based.

Jake said:

Missed the entire training camp yet still still carried 301 times for 1357 yards, 12 rushing TDs and 54 receptions on top of it. Yeah, he really slacked off.

Some of the narratives around this place are mind-boggling. They exist and thrive no matter what evidence contradicts them. Feelz > Facts

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And at least 3 games were he never touch the ball after going over 70 yards before halftime and then does not finish the game with over 80 yards, that is not his fault.

Pay after each games performance.

Jake said:

Missed the entire training camp yet still still carried 301 times for 1357 yards, 12 rushing TDs and 54 receptions on top of it. Yeah, he really slacked off.

Some of the narratives around this place are mind-boggling. They exist and thrive no matter what evidence contradicts them. Feelz > Facts

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This is just another veiled "contract year / don't pay players period" fallacy playing out. I made a post almost a year ago where I actually looked up guys who just got big contract extensions and then turned in their best year as a pro: Deandre Hopkins, Davante Adams, Stefon Diggs, Danielle Hunter, Tyler Lockett, Aaron Donald. But of course if we ever get burned then generalize to the NFL as a whole. Lol.

Also from my post: Players are signed on the basis of current or forcasted production based on what they've just done. Just like with fan dreams of a player developing into a beast based on year 1 production, no one ever counts on a player regressing but it does happen, and sometimes for reasons other than half-azzing it or because they "got paid" and then take less risks.

I have long thought that the league should have base pay and incentives. But it would have to be league wide. It would almost eliminate the need for an agent.

Each player can negotiate the base pay with each team having a salary cap for base pay.

Then after the game - team coaches evaluates, players (union maybe) evaluates, and then neutral group evaluates each players pay and determines the "incentive" pay. (All incentives $$$$ would have to be decided before the season started based upon position).
If team evaluates and players union evaluate --- and then a neutral party has to put it somewhere between the two, fans would be the biggest winners.

This would let the owners pay for production, allow players who produce to get paid no matter their age/experience, and not have to pay for the guys who are always injured (if you don't play, you only get base). It would also make players want to play more games, and play till the end, and play that "it doesn't matter" game at the end of the season so fans still get to see the best ball.

Winning teams would end up making more than losing teams.........as it should be. Owners on winning teams usually make more than owners from losing ones.
Better play individually would begat better pay -- even if the team didn't do well.

Would their be some running up of scores? yes, but there would also be some "not slacking off", and playing when hurting but not injured, etc.

Tie success to the coaches contracts and pay them the same way with team, players, and then neutral party evaluating the coaching and their incentives and you could have something where everyone who succeeds is the ones getting the big $$$ and all others while still getting paid have incentive.