If released in theory. would Dak start elsewhere?

This is actually a pretty crappy thread. I think I'm going to bench myself for a minute.

Doomsday101 said:

Somewhat agree but in some of those cases teams have just used high picks to draft a QB which is why I did not add Miami or Cinn. Also teams like NY or Arz who will now enter their 2nd season with young QB that they drafted high.

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Exactly, which cuts into Dak's value despite the fact he could "start" for the team if given an open competition.

So if he's mid tier QB (I lean to his upper mid-tier), asking Prescott to accept a contract in the Wentz range is absolutely reasonable given that he cannot expect to start for almost 2/3 of the NFL franchises.

Exactly what value does he think he has vs what was offered?

Darkhound said:

In an absolutely impossible scenario, but I CAN DREAM can I? If Dak gets released will be be the absolute starter in any other team?

What are your thoughts?
Sadly, I think that Dak is a very good BACKUP.

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This is about the most idiotic and dak dysfunctional syndrome driven question I've seen posed on this forum.. Get help...

Darkhound said:

Does the MAJORITY of you guys here think of believe that:

Dak > Carson Wentz?
Dak > Goff ?

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yes
yes

But his contract should not be significantly more than those 2 QB's.

Does he walk into Philadelphia's locker room and is immediately handed the job? Not likely.
Does he walk into the Ram's locker room and McVey installs him as starter day 1? Not likely

But yes I think he's better than both of those QB's.

Whirlwin said:

He’s going to be starting for the Cowboys

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probably but the statement asked if he could start anywhere if released

ABQCOWBOY said:

I agree, with your take on Dak, he's not a HOF QB but he's not a nobody either. That's completely fair.

He has had his own set of issues to deal with in Dallas but there again, if you have a competent staff, is Dak even named starter in his Rookie year? Would he be a starter now? Would he be evaluated as the best possible solution for us at QB? Would he have already won a Super Bowl? Just too many factors involved there, to know for sure.

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Actually, and I'm all for letting Dak walk away if he wants too much or we can land 1st Round picks:

given his career trajectory to date the HOF is WELL within his reach if he maintains his level of play.

Dak is a very good, close to excellent QB.

He is NOT a transcendant player however. I liken his talent to where McNair's was. He might be better than McNair actually. But he will never be a legendary type player. He's a blue collar very good QB that makes plays. In the past he was very clutch, last year he fell on the other side of that coin too often for my tastes to completely go bankrupt to maintain the status quo.

mmohican29 said:

Actually, and I'm all for letting Dak walk away if he wants too much or we can land 1st Round picks:

given his career trajectory to date the HOF is WELL within his reach if he maintains his level of play.

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I don't agree there. Way too early to even kinda start talking about the Hall. Dak takes a lot of hits. In the space of a couple of three or four more seasons, two things will definitely happen. One, injuries will catch up to him and he won't be able to do the same kinds of things he's doing now so unless he becomes a much, much better passing QB, I doubt he will sustain. Also, we are going to lose players, the window will eventually close and at that point, things will become much, much tougher for Dak in Dallas. He's going to need to win a few championships over the next few years if he wants a real shot at the HOF IMO.

ABQCOWBOY said:

I don't agree there. Way too early to even kinda start talking about the Hall. Dak takes a lot of hits. In the space of a couple of three or four more seasons, two things will definitely happen. One, injuries will catch up to him and he won't be able to do the same kinds of things he's doing now so unless he becomes a much, much better passing QB, I doubt he will sustain. Also, we are going to lose players, the window will eventually close and at that point, things will become much, much tougher for Dak in Dallas. He's going to need to win a few championships over the next few years if he wants a real shot at the HOF IMO.

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A Championship will help his cause no question.

But his career resume is pretty darn good 4 seasons in. Statistically, there haven't been that many better in history.

Corso said:

This is actually a pretty crappy thread. I think I'm going to bench myself for a minute.

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Is that possible!?

Teams that I believe would attempt to sign Dak to be their franchise QB if he was available.

NFC E
Commanders - Yes
Eagles - Probably not
Giants - Maybe

NFC S
Panthers - Yes
Bucs - maybe depending on how long they expect Brady to play
Saints - Yes, assuming Brees will move on in a year
Falcons - Probably not

NFC W
Rams - Yes
Seahawks - No
Cardinals - No
49ers - Yes

NFC N
Bears - Yes
Lions - maybe
Packers - No
Vikings - Probably not

AFC E
Pats - Yes
Jets - Maybe
Dolphins - Probably not
Bills - maybe

AFC S
Texans - No (but then again Deshaun might want out and BoB is a horrible GM so no idea)
Jags - Yes
Titans - Yes
Colts - Yes

AFC W
Chargers - Maybe
Broncos - Yes
Raiders - Yes
Chiefs - No

AFC N
Steelers - Yes
Ravens - No
Browns - Probably not
Bengals - No

So 13 out of 31 teams IMO would go after him for sure either for this year or the future with aging vets set to retire after the season. A number of teams have a young guy they just drafted, but might be willing to move on from or trade them in favor of Dak, I’d say that’s less likely (of course this whole situation is highly unlikely). There’s a few instances where either a young high draft pick has shown promise or the team has a QB of equal or higher value than Dak already but I believe at least a third of the league would definitely try to sign him and over half would be interested.

At the very least Dak is above average. After last season I would say he’s solidly in the good category. Somewhere around the top 5 with top 10 being his floor for even the most cynical if they have a hint of logic or reasoning. He’s improved drastically in his time in the NFL and I believe he will continue to do so. He had a great statistical year last year, he’s managed to lead game winning drives in the clutch and has had multiple winning seasons as a starter (none losing) despite having JG as a coach. I have been a bit annoyed with the contract situation and hope they resolve something similar to Russell Wilson’s contract.

To answer your question, no he wouldn’t be a backup. He would be a starter and have a plethora of teams to choose from.

hopefully this season will either prove us right or wrong He wont have excuses now

mmohican29 said:

Exactly, which cuts into Dak's value despite the fact he could "start" for the team if given an open competition.

So if he's mid tier QB (I lean to his upper mid-tier), asking Prescott to accept a contract in the Wentz range is absolutely reasonable given that he cannot expect to start for almost 2/3 of the NFL franchises.

Exactly what value does he think he has vs what was offered?

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Each year the price tags increase as does the cap. I don't think Wilson is the best QB in the NFL so why is he paid as the best? As the cap rises so do contract demands. In the end I don't know what the final contract will look like, I do know what looks to be big this year will look close to avg within the next year to 2 years out. Jimmy G contract went from the highest in the NFL at 27 mill to now the 10th highest paid. If Jimmy G was a FA this year he would be asking for more than 27

rnr_honeybadger said:

People on here hate the kid, for who knows what reason.

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Valid criticism isn't hate.

Seems if you post something wrong or negative or that goes against the general idea you are are troll

LOL

Doomsday101 said:

Each year the price tags increase as does the cap. I don't think Wilson is the best QB in the NFL so why is he paid as the best? As the cap rises so do contract demands. In the end I don't know what the final contract will look like, I do know what looks to be big this year will look close to avg within the next year to 2 years out. Jimmy G contract went from the highest in the NFL at 27 mill to now the 10th highest paid. If Jimmy G was a FA this year he would be asking for more than 27

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I agree. Dak should get 35M+.

If he gets a dime more than 35M per, he should thank his fortunate stars.

Instead of eyeballing the next contract before accomplishing jack, get something done and come back to the table then.

I'm simply pointing out how easily Dak Prescott- who is a fine NFL quarterback by every standard- can easily find himself paired with a team that won't fit like this one does to his talents, and say goodbye to his AP scores.

Noone will care about his yogurt, soup, what his sleep number is, directTV subscriptions, etc anymore.

Just. Like. That.

No matter how well he does elsewhere. It's a wrap. He'll be an afterthought.

Dak is a top 5 starter in the league, so yea you’re technically right - he would be a phenomenal backup.

ultron said:

Dak is a top 5 starter in the league, so yea you’re technically right - he would be a phenomenal backup.

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TOP 5.. i RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE

Darkhound said:

I agree with you. I just think we deserve a better QB and that he is not realizing that he is an AVERAGE QB AND INSTEAD is asking for money that he is not worth

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I know a lot of people don't like stats. There are a lot of variables, I get it. However Dak's QBR for the 2019 season was 70.2. We have to have some gage by other than intangibles, which again is off the chart for this guy.

With that being said an average QB's QBR score is 50. The 70.2 he posted was good enough for 4th in the league.

Darkhound said:

TOP 5.. i RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE

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