Did anyone watch the Cowboys-Vikings replay last night?

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rocyaice said:
Its possible. But we haven't heard ANYTHING about the Cowboys being interested. Seems like with a caliber of Griffen we would hear rumblings at least.
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Another thing to consider is how Aldon and Randy may or may not affect his playing time/snap count. I would think IF we made an offer, it was w/o a guaranteed starting job or a certain number of snaps coz again if everything goes well with Aldon or Randy and they lights out, he's a part-time player.
 
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I checked out some of it and plan to watch it some more today. But in the short time I did watch it, what jumped out to me was the play of current free agent DE Everson Griffen against Tyron Smith. He truly gave our left tackle everything that he could handle, and then some. To be honest, the Vikings front in general outplayed our offensive line. Zeke and the running game ran into a brick wall all night and Minnesota was also able to maintain an excellent pass rush as well.

Watching Griffen perform so well, it reaffirms my beliefs that signing him would be the icing on the cake to a near-perfect offseason. It would solidify the RDE spot and take away the current uncertainty and guesswork at the position.

Free up the money and go sign a true, available, quality RDE.
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i hope we find a way to bring him on, my dad sent me pictures of cooper catching ala Michael Jackson lean, then sent me when we were up 21-20, I couldn’t get myself to watch it, that was a painful lose for me.
 
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stasheroo said:
I checked out some of it and plan to watch it some more today. But in the short time I did watch it, what jumped out to me was the play of current free agent DE Everson Griffen against Tyron Smith. He truly gave our left tackle everything that he could handle, and then some. To be honest, the Vikings front in general outplayed our offensive line. Zeke and the running game ran into a brick wall all night and Minnesota was also able to maintain an excellent pass rush as well.

Watching Griffen perform so well, it reaffirms my beliefs that signing him would be the icing on the cake to a near-perfect offseason. It would solidify the RDE spot and take away the current uncertainty and guesswork at the position.

Free up the money and go sign a true, available, quality RDE.
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While I like Griffen the player, he apparently has some real issues with depression. IIRC, he had a near psychotic break a couple of years ago.
 
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stasheroo said:
As well as the fixation on 'intangible' vs tangible results.

Oh, he's a 'leader' and he 'tries really, really hard'. Vs the fact that on gameday the guy does nothing.
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I think they are a little hung up on the "versatility" thing also w him.

In hear ya....no one can sit here and make the argument that he makes plays. He doesnt.
 
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Plankton said:
While I like Griffen the player, he apparently has some real issues with depression. IIRC, he had a near psychotic break a couple of years ago.
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He did.

But is that any worse than what we're dealing with from our current RDE candidates?

I'd say no. And in Griffen's case, he clearly put things behind him to get back on the field.
 
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fivetwos said:
I think they are a little hung up on the "versatility" thing also w him.

In hear ya....no one can sit here and make the argument that he makes plays. He doesnt.
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Even the "versatility" thing is a myth.

He's a 3rd string 3T defensive tackle, even if the double hip surgery was an unequivocal success.
 
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He did.

But is that any worse than what we're dealing with from our current RDE candidates?

I'd say no. And in Griffen's case, he clearly put things behind him to get back on the field.
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Think about the fact that the Vikings are seemingly willing to let him walk away. With what is known about his mental state, is that a pond that you would willingly swim in?

And, look at the history of the Cowboys with guys that have issues with depression. For every Charles Haley, there are the Alonzo Spellmans, Dimitrius Underwoods and Randy Gregory. The batting percentage isn't great.
 

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Again everyone is free to express their opinions but I can't express mine about other's opinions? I see there are two set of rules. One for those for whoever want to express their opinions and one for those that anyone who disagree with those opinions and aren't allowed to express their opinons. Now that i know there are two different sets of rules I ......BS.

BTW, since as you have correctly said that nobody here really knows why or who the Cowboys may or may not be interested in, again it's OK for some to express what they think on that but not OK for other to question that thinking and if they do then they get labeled as a sheep.
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You’re free to express whatever you want my man. Was just offering some perspective as to why it seemed strange.

if I say: I say I wonder if Clowneys price has dropped. If we could get him even on a one year prove it thst could push the team over the top.

And you say: I read he turned down deals from both the titans and Seahawks already, so I doubt he’s coming here cheaply and Dallas isn’t going to get into a bidding war after handing out so many high priced contracts.

that’s expressing your opinion. And commenting on mine.

Now if you say: the team doesn’t want him or they’d have made an offer already, but I guess you know better than the guys who do this for a living.

not quite the same. You get me?

no hard feelings here brother.
 
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stasheroo said:
But in the short time I did watch it, what jumped out to me was the play of current free agent DE Everson Griffen against Tyron Smith. He truly gave our left tackle everything that he could handle, and then some. .
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Tyron was still recovering from Dak shattering his ankle. The eagles/giants/vikings game where pretty rough for him since they rushed him back. The remaining six games though he went on a good tear, high pass/run protection ratings and only a combined 1 holding call in that stretch
 
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Think about the fact that the Vikings are seemingly willing to let him walk away. With what is known about his mental state, is that a pond that you would willingly swim in?
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Again, the Vikings had cap issues. They couldn't keep all of their guys. That's no indicator that the guy can't still play.

And, look at the history of the Cowboys with guys that have issues with depression. For every Charles Haley, there are the Alonzo Spellmans, Dimitrius Underwoods and Randy Gregory. The batting percentage isn't great.
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Griffen has put his behind him well enough to not only continue to play but continue to be productive.
 
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stasheroo said:
I checked out some of it and plan to watch it some more today. But in the short time I did watch it, what jumped out to me was the play of current free agent DE Everson Griffen against Tyron Smith. He truly gave our left tackle everything that he could handle, and then some. To be honest, the Vikings front in general outplayed our offensive line. Zeke and the running game ran into a brick wall all night and Minnesota was also able to maintain an excellent pass rush as well.

Watching Griffen perform so well, it reaffirms my beliefs that signing him would be the icing on the cake to a near-perfect offseason. It would solidify the RDE spot and take away the current uncertainty and guesswork at the position.

Free up the money and go sign a true, available, quality RDE.
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Thanks to weak Connor Williams it ruined the whole OL play.
 
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One thing about Free agency, like freedon in general..It's never really Free.
 
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Hawkeye0202 said:
Another thing to consider is how Aldon and Randy may or may not affect his playing time/snap count. I would think IF we made an offer, it was w/o a guaranteed starting job or a certain number of snaps coz again if everything goes well with Aldon or Randy and they lights out, he's a part-time player.
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Yeah, I'm in no rush to sign him until I hear (should be a couple of weeks) of the fate of Smith and Gregory. Teams may also be waiting to clear some cap space by waiting for the june 1st cuts.
 
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To me, Everson Griffen is one of the top 3 RDE’s in football. If Gregory and Aldon don’t get reinstated, this is a no brainer. I think the guy is worth $15m a year.
 
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Yeah, I watched it and I can't believe anyone can doubt Dak after the way he played in that game. The throws he made to Cooper on the sideline were ridiculous.
 
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You’re free to express whatever you want my man. Was just offering some perspective as to why it seemed strange.

if I say: I say I wonder if Clowneys price has dropped. If we could get him even on a one year prove it thst could push the team over the top.

And you say: I read he turned down deals from both the titans and Seahawks already, so I doubt he’s coming here cheaply and Dallas isn’t going to get into a bidding war after handing out so many high priced contracts.

that’s expressing your opinion. And commenting on mine.

Now if you say: the team doesn’t want him or they’d have made an offer already, but I guess you know better than the guys who do this for a living.

not quite the same. You get me?

no hard feelings here brother.
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I understand what you're saying and normally I just say something like the Cowboys haven't done this or that so that probably means they're not interested or I would point out the reasons why I don't think it's such a smart move. Normally I don't use the I guess you know more than the guys that do this for a living unless I get some kind of snarky reply from them. I tell myself if you want to get snarky with me fine, I'm good at it.
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stasheroo said:
I checked out some of it and plan to watch it some more today. But in the short time I did watch it, what jumped out to me was the play of current free agent DE Everson Griffen against Tyron Smith. He truly gave our left tackle everything that he could handle, and then some. To be honest, the Vikings front in general outplayed our offensive line. Zeke and the running game ran into a brick wall all night and Minnesota was also able to maintain an excellent pass rush as well.

Watching Griffen perform so well, it reaffirms my beliefs that signing him would be the icing on the cake to a near-perfect offseason. It would solidify the RDE spot and take away the current uncertainty and guesswork at the position.

Free up the money and go sign a true, available, quality RDE.
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I do not know why they have not gone after him.

I do not know what he is looking for etc., but we have been so attack mode everywhere else, just sign him and make my day. Gregory and Smith be damned.
 
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