I thought under the new CBA players weren't able to hold out?

Typhus · May 7, 2020

Pantone282C said:
I wonder if the NFL would demand pay per view? Might meet with resistance.

If its more affordable than the season ticket, then count me in... NFL ala carte baby!

rnr_honeybadger · May 7, 2020

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Wood · May 7, 2020

Cwby41 said:
I thought I read under the new CBA players weren't able to hold out? Does anyone have any more clarification on this and if so when does that go into effect?
Also how will the CAP be effected by the Virus? For example no fans in stands or less games played? How would teams figure salaries for the following year if the cap stays the same or goes down (which I doubt very much would happen) but in these times who knows?

The new rules are more harsh for players holding out but they only apply to players currently under contract. Dak isn't under contract so only real financial penalty for Dak is $$ lost for games missed (which would be substantial considering its based off franchise tag).

Cowboysheelsreds053 · May 7, 2020

fivetwos said:
Players get fined more and getting credit for the season is a bit more difficult. Also the fine cant be forgiven, as I suppose was standard practice.

Who is holding out btw?

LLLOOOLLL

Kwyn · May 7, 2020

Pantone282C said:
I wonder if the NFL would demand pay per view? Might meet with resistance.

This is why Al Davis moves the Raiders to LA. He thought that a change to a PPV model was imminent for the NFL and his team could benefit from having the entire LA market to himself

Chuck 54 · May 7, 2020

Cwby41 said:
I thought I read under the new CBA players weren't able to hold out? Does anyone have any more clarification on this and if so when does that go into effect?
Also how will the CAP be effected by the Virus? For example no fans in stands or less games played? How would teams figure salaries for the following year if the cap stays the same or goes down (which I doubt very much would happen) but in these times who knows?

First off, and I’m sure someone is bound to have already pointed this out, but when you are not under contract, you are not holding out.

Flamma · May 7, 2020

Chuck 54 said:
First off, and I’m sure someone is bound to have already pointed this out, but when you are not under contract, you are not holding out.

It's been brought up, still, people will call it a hold out. Similar to the Emmitt Smith situation. People still call that a holdout.

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country · May 7, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
The vast majority of the cap money comes from the TV contracts, but there would be less total money because of if the stands are empty. The league makes zero dollars from any ad or commercial run during games. The networks get all of the advertising money. That's a large part of the money for the contracts they sign with the league.
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Alright thanks for the info.

I just thought the NFL would find a way to squeeze more money out of the networks if the networks were getting a little more than usual. Because big business is all about strong-arming the little guys.

Pantone282C · May 7, 2020

Kwyn said:
This is why Al Davis moves the Raiders to LA. He thought that a change to a PPV model was imminent for the NFL and his team could benefit from having the entire LA market to himself

Shrewd.

Kwyn · May 8, 2020

Pantone282C said:
Shrewd.

Well, he through it was a good idea at the time.

Pantone282C · May 8, 2020

Kwyn said:
Well, he through it was a good idea at the time.

So did Hannibal Lecter's fourth victim!

blueblood70 · May 8, 2020

Cwby41 said:
I thought I read under the new CBA players weren't able to hold out? Does anyone have any more clarification on this and if so when does that go into effect?
Also how will the CAP be effected by the Virus? For example no fans in stands or less games played? How would teams figure salaries for the following year if the cap stays the same or goes down (which I doubt very much would happen) but in these times who knows?

they can but fines cant be waived and it will hurt FA status.. however int his stay at home lockout times theres nothing to hold out from..fact is if a player wants to play that card he can claim hes not willing to show up because of covid19 concerns and I doubt they can fine them, new times..

Cwby41 · May 8, 2020

Jake said:
Who is holding out? If, by chance, you're thinking Dak think again. He's not under contract.

I don't think there's anything to prevent players from holding out - are you going to drag them in by force? I do think the penalties for doing so are stiffer now.

Jake go read my second post. This is not about Dak. Tired of talking about that. it is what it is with him. Just a question in general about the new CBA

Cwby41 · May 8, 2020

blueblood70 said:
they can but fines cant be waived and it will hurt FA status.. however int his stay at home lockout times theres nothing to hold out from..fact is if a player wants to play that card he can claim hes not willing to show up because of covid19 concerns and I doubt they can fine them, new times..

Good point

Adreme · May 8, 2020

If this thread is about Dak, he isn't technically a holdout because until he signs the tag he is not a Cowboy and therefore not obligated to go to any team activities.

Per the rules, the new rules largely focus on veteran holdouts, which I honestly do not remember being a problem.

I thought under the new CBA players weren't able to hold out?

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