NFL All-Time Passer Rating Leaders - time adjusted

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DFWJC said:
As we all know, NFL Passer ratings have been steadily drifting up for several decades now.
For example, the average of the top 15 passer ratings was:
76 in 1970
90 in 2000
103 in 2019

It's a big reason why the current leaderboard for career passer rating is so skewed to active players.

You can take the average rating of any year vs the current rating and come up with a real adjustment to these numbers.

Here is a TIME-ADJUSTED list of the NFL's Career Passer Rating leaders.
You'll find it makes much more sense if you want to measure players across eras.

Top 20 (of 100)
  1. Graham
  2. Young
  3. Montana
  4. Mahomes
  5. Dawson
  6. Jorgenson
  7. Anderson
  8. Rodgers
  9. Staubach
  10. Starr
  11. Tarkenton
  12. P Manning
  13. Warner
  14. Wilson
  15. Romo
  16. Brady
  17. Brees
  18. Unitas
  19. Fouts
  20. Marino
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Amazing because Romo is #4 all time in QB rating and Dak is tied with Brady for 5th all time.

https://www.footballdb.com/leaders/career-passing-rating
 
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DFWJC said:
As we all know, NFL Passer ratings have been steadily drifting up for several decades now.
For example, the average of the top 15 passer ratings was:
76 in 1970
90 in 2000
103 in 2019

It's a big reason why the current leaderboard for career passer rating is so skewed to active players.

You can take the average rating of any year vs the current rating and come up with a real adjustment to these numbers.

Here is a TIME-ADJUSTED list of the NFL's Career Passer Rating leaders.
You'll find it makes much more sense if you want to measure players across eras.

Top 20 (of 100)
  1. Graham
  2. Young
  3. Montana
  4. Mahomes
  5. Dawson
  6. Jorgenson
  7. Anderson
  8. Rodgers
  9. Staubach
  10. Starr
  11. Tarkenton
  12. P Manning
  13. Warner
  14. Wilson
  15. Romo
  16. Brady
  17. Brees
  18. Unitas
  19. Fouts
  20. Marino
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Bradshaw not in top 75 either
 
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Section446 said:
I've honestly never put much into QBR, you know a great QB when you see one, don't need statistics to tell you they're great.
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I agree on a game to game or even year to year basis.
However
You'll notice 17 or 18 of the top 20 on that list are in the HOF or will be in the HOF.
Maybe as many as 19 or 20 will eventually get there with Romo being the only one left out (can't see him ever getting in)

So once you adjust for time, there is a massive correlation. Uncanny really.
 
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Section446 said:
I've honestly never put much into QBR, you know a great QB when you see one, don't need statistics to tell you they're great.
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Its a rating for idiots. For those fans that think you measure my team record of SB's.

Romo was in incredible QB and his career was completely wasted by Jones and losers like Wade and Garrett.
 
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Its a rating for idiots. For those fans that think you measure my team record of SB's.

Romo was in incredible QB and his career was completely wasted by Jones and losers like Wade and Garrett.
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As someone who was a big critic of Romo during his career, I agree with you, we wasted him. Though, he had a tendency to fall apart when the spotlight was the brightest.
 
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Wow, Dak is ranked the same number of dollars he's probably gonna get per season.
 
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Section446 said:
As someone who was a big critic of Romo during his career, I agree with you, we wasted him. Though, he had a tendency to fall apart when the spotlight was the brightest.
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He was a gun slinger. But he had little help and poor coaching. So again, the defeats get blamed on him like do with most QB and football challenged fans.

Romo go the label his first year when he fumbled the hold in the Seahawks game.

What kind of an idiot has your starting QB holding on FG kicks?
 
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Top 20 (of 100)
  1. Graham --HOF
  2. Young --HOF
  3. Montana --HOF
  4. Mahomes -Super Bowl MVP
  5. Dawson --HOF
  6. Jorgenson --HOF
  7. Anderson --crickets
  8. Rodgers --future HOF
  9. Staubach --HOF
  10. Starr --HOF
  11. Tarkenton --HOF
  12. P Manning --future HOF
  13. Warner --HOF
  14. Wilson --Super Bowl MVP
  15. Romo --broadcaster dude
  16. Brady --future HOF
  17. Brees --future HOF
  18. Unitas --HOF
  19. Fouts --HOF
  20. Marino --HOF
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Romo will likely be in the Sports Broadcasting Hall of Fame some day.
 
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Bradshaw not in top 75 either
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It's an unbiased numbers rating, not a total assessment at all of who is better than who.
But no matter how much anyone can try to skew the numbers, Bradshaw (or Aikmen for that matter) will not get into the top 20 or so.

You'll notice 90% of the top 25 are current or future HOFers.

Aikman and Bradshaw have always been outliers with regard to Passer rating. Way better than the number show.
But in general, the adjusted list radically fixes the flaws of the current list...which has guys like Jarod Goff as 13th aal tie..or even dak as 5th best all -time. That's nuts and everyone (even those that love them) know it.

It moves true greats like Staubach WAY up the list, as it should.

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I need to look into Bradshaw because I don't see him on my spreadsheet at all.
I'll check it out.

Good catch. Bradshaw should be 54th
70.9 passer rating adjusted up to 94.10
 
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Mahomes is going to tear up the AFC for the nest 10-20 years as long as he can stay healthy. What a draft pick for the Chiefs.
 
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21-50

21) B Jones
22) Pennington
23) Rivers
24) Kelly
25) Cousins
26) Garcia
27) Theismann
28) Griese
29) Stafford
30) Van Brocklin
31) Roethlisberger
32) Meredith
33) Prescott
34) Ryan
35) Favre
36)Gabriel
37) Tittle
38) Lomax
39) Morrell
40) White
41) Culpepper
42) Gannon
43) Kosar
44) T Green
45) Kreig
46) Eason
47) Esiason
48) Brodie
49) Hostetler
50) OBrien
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I remember watching Bert Jones play for the Baltimore Colts. He was Elway BEFORE Elway came along. Always thought he was going to be one of the great all-time QB's, but injuries derailed his career.

Never will forget the 1975 Colts team that started 1-4, and then won 9 straight games to take the AFC East Division Title.
 
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Bradshaw not in top 75 either
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Good catch on Bradhaw.
He was so far down the real PR list that I somehow passed him by
His official rating is 70.9 and his adjusted rating is 94.1....which is 54th.
 
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If anyone has a player that they are curious about or that it appears I overlooked, let me know and I'll run the numbers.
 
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DFWJC said:
As we all know, NFL Passer ratings have been steadily drifting up for several decades now.
For example, the average of the top 15 passer ratings was:
76 in 1970
90 in 2000
103 in 2019

It's a big reason why the current leaderboard for career passer rating is so skewed to active players.

You can take the average rating of any year vs the current rating and come up with a real adjustment to these numbers.

Here is a TIME-ADJUSTED list of the NFL's Career Passer Rating leaders.
You'll find it makes much more sense if you want to measure players across eras.

Top 20 (of 100)
  1. Graham
  2. Young
  3. Montana
  4. Mahomes
  5. Dawson
  6. Jorgenson
  7. Anderson
  8. Rodgers
  9. Staubach
  10. Starr
  11. Tarkenton
  12. P Manning
  13. Warner
  14. Wilson
  15. Romo
  16. Brady
  17. Brees
  18. Unitas
  19. Fouts
  20. Marino
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This is awesome, thanks for sharing.
 
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DFWJC said:
It's an unbiased numbers rating, not a total assessment at all of who is better than who.
But no matter how much anyone can try to skew the numbers, Bradshaw (or Aikmen for that matter) will not get into the top 20 or so.

You'll notice 90% of the top 25 are current or future HOFers.

Aikman and Bradshaw have always been outliers with regard to Passer rating. Way better than the number show.
But in general, the adjusted list radically fixes the flaws of the current list...which has guys like Jarod Goff as 13th aal tie..or even dak as 5th best all -time. That's nuts and everyone (even those that love them) know it.

It moves true greats like Staubach WAY up the list, as it should.

----
update
I need to look into Bradshaw because I don't see him on my spreadsheet at all.
I'll check it out.

Good catch. Bradshaw should be 54th
70.9 passer rating adjusted up to 94.10
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Those two were bus drivers that had arguably the two best supporting casts in the history of the NFL.

Put either of those guy on a mediocre to good team and they don't make the HOF by a long shot.
 
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