Twitter: Great thread explaining Dak Situation

Polkton31 · May 9, 2020

Section446 said:
I actually agree with you, there are only a few QB's I'd pay that kind of money to, and Dak isn't one of them. I think that a guy like Dak needs a lot of talent around him to be successful, your ability to make that happen goes down if he's 20 percent of your cap. Good point on the new CBA though, that could change everything.

I wouldn't hate Dalton being the guy if Dak went down, in my kind they're somewhere in the same tier of QB, but I think Dak is the better option.

While I think its a bad idea for both parties, I've come to accept that we're stuck with the guy. With that being the case, I hope we're stuck with something that's team-friendly, a 4 year deal would not qualify as team-friendly.

I definitely feel better with Dalton as the QB2 if Dak holds out or gets hurt. Who knows, Dalton might surprise some people in this offense.

I agree 4 years might not be team friendly... But if that's the sticking point, then compromise. Since Dak likes betting on himself, make the deal for 5 years with the 5th year voidable if certain milestones are met.

Flamma · May 9, 2020

QuincyCarterEra said:
This is why so many of us were frustrated when we didn't get a deal done last off-season.

Letting your below-average receiving RB force your hand to give him the largest contact in every facet two years before his contract is up, while simultaneously not extending your franchise QB was huge mistake. With MM's analytical approach we will hopefully have less of these ***** ups moving forward.

Let me explain why it was better to sign Dak before last year as opposed to now.

Had Dallas signed Dak last year to an extension they could have dumped a lot of the signing bonus on 2019 since it was the last year of his rookie deal. What was he making, 450k? Then spread the rest out more easily in the other years.

This is what they did with Zeke. He was only making 752k in 2019 so they dumped most of the signing bonus on that year allowing the rest of his contract to not have a big signing bonus hit.

Now with a totally new contract the Cowboys have no years to dump a lot of signing bonus.

Flamma · May 9, 2020

Kaiser said:
The problem with the argument Dallas should have signed Dak last year is the reports that once Dak had a great start to the season his agent moved the goalposts and asked for one of the top salaries in the NFL. We don't really know, but if that is true Dallas played it right in waiting.

The thing is, had they extended him last year the cap hits throughout the contract would have been smaller.

Section446 · May 9, 2020

Polkton31 said:
I definitely feel better with Dalton as the QB2 if Dak holds out or gets hurt. Who knows, Dalton might surprise some people in this offense.

I agree 4 years might not be team friendly... But if that's the sticking point, then compromise. Since Dak likes betting on himself, make the deal for 5 years with the 5th year voidable if certain milestones are met.

I feel like you don't see that stipulation in NFL contracts, may not be an option.

Flamma · May 9, 2020

Section446 said:
I feel like you don't see that stipulation in NFL contracts, may not be an option.

The Cowboys are actually screwed on this one. If they sign him to 35 mil a year for 4 years how are they going to spread that out? It's pretty much a huge cap hit every year since this is a new contract.

Polkton31 · May 9, 2020

Section446 said:
I feel like you don't see that stipulation in NFL contracts, may not be an option.

Maybe not.. but here is an interesting article. http://insidethepylon.com/nfl/teams...ints/2019/08/09/glossary-entry-voidable-year/

gimmesix · May 9, 2020

QuincyCarterEra said:
He ran the second most routes amongst RBs in the league last year on a top 3 offense. What'd that result in? Only the 9th most receptions, and the 11th most yards.

Below-average was being nice.

Ninth-most receptions and 11th-most yards are both above average considering that average among 32 starting running backs would be 16th. Just sayin'.

Polkton31 · May 9, 2020

Section446 said:
I feel like you don't see that stipulation in NFL contracts, may not be an option.

I will be the first to admit I'm not a contract guru. But some people on here are.

Section446 · May 9, 2020

Flamma said:
The Cowboys are actually screwed on this one. If they sign him to 35 mil a year for 4 years how are they going to spread that out? It's pretty much a huge cap hit every year since this is a new contract.

Yeah, I really hate that idea, hopefully they can figure this mess out.

Flamma · May 9, 2020

Section446 said:
Yeah, I really hate that idea, hopefully they can figure this mess out.

Can't. It's not possible to figure out anymore. It's straight forward. Take Russel Wilson for example. He got a 4 year deal 35m per. 65 mil signing bonus. They spread that signing bonus out over 5 years. They restructured the last year of his previous contract and had him making 5 million base salary. They dumped almost 20 million of the bonus on that year. The Cowboys don't have a year like that because they let Dak play it out. Now they're looking at close to 35 mil cap hit a year.

ghst187 · May 10, 2020

cowboyschmps3 said:
Below average receiving back smh

I double took that one too...he said “below average RECIEVING RB” but I take issue with that too...he’s outstanding in every aspect of his position...

marius · May 10, 2020

Dak situation its a BIG distraction, I say, offer 2 year 72M deal to Dak, 36M per year, 50M guaranteed, on the 2021 Draft, look for Trey Lance, if he enters the draft in 2021, they need to do their best to select him, and they have a new QB for the future with out headaches

GORICO · May 10, 2020

QuincyCarterEra said:
https://twitter.com/Jason_OTC/status/1259152872685658113?s=19
https://twitter.com/Jason_OTC/status/1259153379072380939?s=19

This is why so many of us were frustrated when we didn't get a deal done last off-season.

Letting your below-average receiving RB force your hand to give him the largest contact in every facet two years before his contract is up, while simultaneously not extending your franchise QB was huge mistake. With MM's analytical approach we will hopefully have less of these ***** ups moving forward.

I am so tired of the Dak contract debate.......how much does dak need?....10-20 years ago never would have thought contract so high for QB.....so tired of hearing the on and on and on about Dak contract.....he put up a lot of yards last season but he did not win many games when he could have......the whole thing puts bad taste in cowboy fans mouth

GORICO · May 10, 2020

WillieBeamen said:
How about YOU explain how Dak’s stats lead YOU to believe he is as good as you think he is.

Ive stated my case (numerous times) as to why his numbers this past season dont fool me. Why dont you post your case for him being worthy of $35m+

Willie--i dont disagree with you....we were in most games to win last season and came up short most of the time....i am glad we got the Red-Rifle......if he has to play we got a chance

cowboyed · May 10, 2020

GORICO said:
I am so tired of the Dak contract debate.......how much does dak need?....10-20 years ago never would have thought contract so high for QB.....so tired of hearing the on and on and on about Dak contract.....he put up a lot of yards last season but he did not win many games when he could have......the whole thing puts bad taste in cowboy fans mouth

The team lost a lot of games, our coaching was abysmal, particularly on defense. Neither our offense and defense were consistent at closing games. The longest streak we had last season was a losing one. Mass dysfunction across the board, many players and things to point out for the losses, not just the quarterback. It can't be a poison pill contract for either Dak or the team. I thought the last reported offer to Dak was a fair and generous one, and 5 years is not unreasonable as it helps with the cap hit as well.

GORICO · May 10, 2020

cowboyed said:
The team lost a lot of games, our coaching was abysmal, particularly on defense. Neither our offense and defense were consistent at closing games. The longest streak we had last season was a losing one. Mass dysfunction across the board, many players and things to point out for the losses, not just the quarterback. It can't be a poison pill contract for either Dak or the team. I thought the last reported offer to Dak was a fair and generous one, and 5 years is not unreasonable as it helps with the cap hit as well.

plus that contract wont go full length ..they are always reworked...Dak will have way over a 100 million before he is 30...play one contract and retire healthy and rich

Batman1980 · May 10, 2020

cowboyschmps3 said:
Below average receiving back smh

Below average? No. Over-rated and might not be top 5? Yes.

freemanjc19 · May 10, 2020

Section446 said:
Possibly, but a lot of his perceived flaws were there before Garrett.

Yes, this is true. Let me put in another way. I don't think JG put in the time to help Dak on his mechanics, reads or offensive sets to let him excel. When I look back at all the #2QB's on this roster under JG's (two coaching staffs). None of the #2 QB's improved. I hop MM has a better paln to develop young guys and allow them to get reps they need to get better.

Section446 · May 10, 2020

freemanjc19 said:
Yes, this is true. Let me put in another way. I don't think JG put in the time to help Dak on his mechanics, reads or offensive sets to let him excel. When I look back at all the #2QB's on this roster under JG's (two coaching staffs). None of the #2 QB's improved. I hop MM has a better paln to develop young guys and allow them to get reps they need to get better.

I guess we'll know for sure after this season, because it's up for debate, my hope is that he plays under the tag this year.

CowboysFaninHouston · May 10, 2020

agk136 said:
Two wrongs don't make it right.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

Greed is the root of all evil.

who is greedy?

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