Dak vs Wentz

jaythecowboy

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It’s amazing somebody would argue that Wentz carries the eagles when over the last 3 seasons the eagles record is better without him than with him.

Including 4 playoff wins since Wentz was drafted, none of which Wentz played in.

it’s amazing

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I think Dak > Wentz.

In a redraft I take Dak over Wentz (and Goff) every time.

Dak is durable, a gamer and generally clutch, though he does have flaws that some refuse to acknowledge.

That said, the arguments trotted out against Wentz are mind numbing and unbalanced. There are numbers out there that favor Wentz as there is for Dak. Your ultimate takeaway may be “meh, I still take Dak” is fine, but to conclude Wentz is trash is ridiculous.

Most egregious is the attempt to discredit Wentz from being part of the Eagles Super Bowl run which is frankly hypocritical.

In the 13 games Wentz started in 2017, the team went 11-2, while he threw ~3,300 yards, 33 TDs to just 7 INTs, with a 101.9 rating (77.2 QBR).

And yet folks are actually trying to dismiss his contribution that season and treat him as if he was Garrett coming in for a spot start against Green Bay.

Imagine this.....replace Wentz for Dak in the same exact scenario. Dalton comes in for Dak after he leading the Cowboys to 11-2 before suffering a season ending injury. Dalton takes the helm and leads the team to a Super Bowl title.

Would these same arguments be acceptable in discrediting Dak?
 

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I think Dak > Wentz.

In a redraft I take Dak over Wentz (and Goff) every time.

Dak is durable, a gamer and generally clutch, though he does have flaws that some refuse to acknowledge.

That said, the arguments trotted out against Wentz are mind numbing and unbalanced.

To try and discredit Wentz from being part of the Eagles Super Bowl run is frankly hypocritical.

In the 13 games Wentz started in 2017, the team went 11-2, while he threw ~3,300 yards, 33 TDs to just 7 INTs, with a 101.9 rating (77.2 QBR).

And yet folks are actually trying to dismiss his contribution that season and treat him as if he was Garrett coming in for a spot start against Green Bay.

Imagine this.....replace Wentz for Dak in the same exact scenario. Dalton comes in for Dak after he leading the Cowboys to 11-2 before suffering a season ending injury. Dalton takes the helm and leads the team to a Super Bowl title.

Would these same arguments be acceptable in discrediting Dak?

This is all true. But what's he done since? That's more important than what he did in 2017
 

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I think Dak > Wentz.

In a redraft I take Dak over Wentz (and Goff) every time.

Dak is durable, a gamer and generally clutch, though he does have flaws that some refuse to acknowledge.

That said, the arguments trotted out against Wentz are mind numbing and unbalanced.

To try and discredit Wentz from being part of the Eagles Super Bowl run is frankly hypocritical.

In the 13 games Wentz started in 2017, the team went 11-2, while he threw ~3,300 yards, 33 TDs to just 7 INTs, with a 101.9 rating (77.2 QBR).

And yet folks are actually trying to dismiss his contribution that season and treat him as if he was Garrett coming in for a spot start against Green Bay.

Imagine this.....replace Wentz for Dak in the same exact scenario. Dalton comes in for Dak after he leading the Cowboys to 11-2 before suffering a season ending injury. Dalton takes the helm and leads the team to a Super Bowl title.

Would these same arguments be acceptable in discrediting Dak?


Fair points. I like to rip on Wentz because he is an Eagles player after all. So I take shots on what I can.

I think Dak is better. If he isn’t, it’s damn close and quite frankly, that’s fine too. They’re very different QB’s when it comes to strengths and weaknesses.

But yeah there’s no need to tear down what he has accomplished. When Wentz is on, he has a very very high ceiling and can play amazing. His issue is that he isn’t always “on” either due to injury or other factors. Which are all very real and important too.
 

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Do the people who don't think Dak is worth a contract extension think Wentz is worth his contract?
 

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As if they aren’t from the same draft class, so their careers can’t be compared directly. As if Dak hasn’t beaten the breaks off of Wentz’s career overall.

Just thought I’d compare their full CAREERS, you know... instead of cherry-picking a tiny 5-game sample size?

Enjoy!!!

Seasons ended with an injury:
Wentz: 3
Dak: 0

Playoff wins:
Wentz: 0
Dak 1

Career record:
Wentz: 32-24
Dak: 40-24

Career head-to-head:
Wentz: 3-4
Dak: 4-3

Career comp %:
Wentz: 63.8
Dak: 65.8

Career yds/attempt:
Wentz: 6.9
Dak: 7.6

Career AIR yds/attempt (so much for “dink and Dak”):
Wentz: 7.1
Dak: 7.8

Career yds/completion:
Wentz: 10.8
Dak: 11.6

Career passer rating:
Wentz: 92.7
Dak: 97.0

Playoff pass yards:
Wentz: 3
Dak: 794
:lmao2:

If you’re upset at the money Dak will soon be making and you want someone to blame... look no further than Carson “Charmin-Soft” Wentz.

OF COURSE Dak won’t take less than the soft, injury-prone QB he’s thoroughly outplayed since entering the league.

Except that Dak squared off vs Wentz as the 2019 season was on the line and the NFC East was on the line, and,
Wentz beat the brakes off of Dak while leading a team that was decimated by injuries while Dak choked during the entire game.
Wentz actually LED his team and fought for a win, while Dak casually walked back to the sidelines after he overthrew wide open receivers and assumed it was someone else's responsibility to lead the Cowboys to victory.
Don't compare Dak to Carson Wentz. Dak doesn't produce when the team needs him to lead.
Wentz does.
 

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Except that Dak squared off vs Wentz as the 2019 season was on the line and the NFC East was on the line, and,
Wentz beat the brakes off of Dak while leading a team that was decimated by injuries while Dak choked during the entire game.
Wentz actually LED his team and fought for a win, while Dak casually walked back to the sidelines after he overthrew wide open receivers and assumed it was someone else's responsibility to lead the Cowboys to victory.
Don't compare Dak to Carson Wentz. Dak doesn't produce when the team needs him to lead.
Wentz does.

Wentz literally isn't even on the field when his team needs him the most
 

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LOLLLLLLL

It speaks volumes that this is the only argument one could POSSIBLY make for Wentz’s career being better than Dak’s.

Jason Garrett has 2 rings, and at least he was healthy and ready to play in those Super Bowls.

THAT PROVES IT!!!!

GARRETT AS QB >>>>>> WENTZ AS QB

DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Now that was a fantastic response!:hammer:
 

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Wentz literally isn't even on the field when his team needs him the most
You really shouldn't comment if you don't watch the games any closer than that.
The Eagles had already clinched the Division in 2017 with 4 games left when Wentz got hurt.
They were in the playoffs despite most of their starters being injured last season when Wentz got hurt.
Dak was watching from the couch during the playoffs both years, despite being uninjured.
 

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have to give dak the edge. Especially when wentz always gets hurt. Wentz and goff got overpaid so now dallas will have to overpay dak to keep him. Daks a top 12 qb. What else is dallas going to do?
 

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You really shouldn't comment if you don't watch the games any closer than that.
The Eagles had already clinched the Division in 2017 with 4 games left when Wentz got hurt.
They were in the playoffs despite most of their starters being injured last season when Wentz got hurt.
Dak was watching from the couch during the playoffs both years, despite being uninjured.

19-0 hahahahahahahaa
 

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2020...Wentz playing without all his starting recievers all his top RB's without his starting all pro left tackle, his starting right tackle and an injured Zack Ertz throws 2 TD's and puts 17 points on the board in the biggest game of the season. Dak playing in the same game with all his recievers, TE starting O-Line and Zeke....3 FG's lol, and we lose the game 17-9 as Dak is severly out played. One guy played like the Elite Franchise QB he was drafted to be and the other guy played like the 4th round comp pick he was, that is why one guy has a multi year deal for 32M+ and our guy has no deal and was tagged, it is also why the Eagles made the playoffs last year and we didn't
“Let’s ignore that Dak has dominated Wentz overall through 4 full seasons! Let me cherry-pick this ONE GAME instead!!!”

That’s when you know you have NOTHING.
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Division on the line, do or die, who wins?

One team is 100% healthy and the other team is full of practice squad players..

Wich QB wins?

Rest my case.

By the way, you may wanna post the stats of those head to head games that Dak has "won" over Wentz.. they may surprise you.

Time will clearly show how foolish the people comparing Dak to Wentz really were.


Only way Dak has a better career is if Wentz ends up a cripple lol but it could happen so I'll give you that.

I don't understand the Wentz hate.

Dude is a talented player no doubt.

I seen him do things only Mahomes can do.
Watch the film, the dude is extremely talented.
Sucks that he's an eagle, but he's a stud.

Maybe that's why we hate him.
“Let’s ignore that Dak has dominated Wentz through 4 full seasons! Let me cherry-pick this ONE GAME instead!!!”

That’s when you know you have NOTHING.
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Except that Dak squared off vs Wentz as the 2019 season was on the line and the NFC East was on the line, and,
Wentz beat the brakes off of Dak while leading a team that was decimated by injuries while Dak choked during the entire game.
Wentz actually LED his team and fought for a win, while Dak casually walked back to the sidelines after he overthrew wide open receivers and assumed it was someone else's responsibility to lead the Cowboys to victory.
Don't compare Dak to Carson Wentz. Dak doesn't produce when the team needs him to lead.
Wentz does.
“Let’s ignore that Dak has dominated Wentz overall through 4 full seasons! Let me cherry-pick this ONE GAME instead!!!”

That’s when you know you have NOTHING.
:lmao2:
 

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One guy has more talent around him than any QB in the league, the other is surrounded by guys who weren't even on the team when the season started. Wentz is the better QB, he can succeed without elite talent around him. With Dak, if one player around him is injured, he falls apart.
That's the equation most people don't think about. Wentz has done more with a lot less. Statistically he's also played considerably less time than Prescott. If they both had the same amount of games Wentz would be blowing Prescott away in yards, and touchdowns with a much poorer offense.

In Prescott's favor he's been healthy and that counts for something. If I could have Wentz on this Cowboys team I know we'd win a Super Bowl. He carried that team in 2017. If he was given the weapons in Dallas, and the blocking/running game good Lord we would be a dynasty.
 

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You are the guy that spent a year saying Dak spazzes out in the pocket.

He has spazzed out in the pocket.

Why do you keep bringing this up like it’s some dirty secret, lol?

Pressure; spin to the right; try to run left out of the pocket; it’s as predictable as the sun rising in the east and setting in the west.

I can believe he’s better than Wentz and still acknowledge he has faults.

Your fandom never developed past that an 8-year old thinking your hero is infallible.

Like I’ve maintained all along....Dak is not the problem; his dumb arse fans are.
 

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See i think Wentz is the naturally better quarterback hands down. However, all that talent won't do much when you're never on the field. Philly made a huge mistake with his contract. IF he could stay healthy it would be a different story.

If I had to pick wentz or Dak I'm going with Dak at this point in their careers.
 

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That's the equation most people don't think about. Wentz has done more with a lot less. Statistically he's also played considerably less time than Prescott. If they both had the same amount of games Wentz would be blowing Prescott away in yards, and touchdowns with a much poorer offense.

In Prescott's favor he's been healthy and that counts for something. If I could have Wentz on this Cowboys team I know we'd win a Super Bowl. He carried that team in 2017. If he was given the weapons in Dallas, and the blocking/running game good Lord we would be a dynasty.

If Zeke was on the Eagles team Wentz would have lower passing stats because he wouldn't be forced to throw as much. And if Dak has the Eagles defense for the last four years he would have several rings by now.

You are also overlooking running ability and leadership, both of which dramatically favor Prescott.
 
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