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Cowboyny

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Good question.

It's always difficult to know how much is coaching requirements vs player style as well as how offenses challenge different players and different sides of the field.

The main issue was that when offenses challenged on a sideline go route, it was most often when Awuzie was on the side with only 1 WR and the FS was shaded to the opposite side where there were 2 WRs.

I didn't count every snap but it seemed that the slot WR lined up on the side with BJ far more often (when is was an intermediate or long pass).

Offenses liked to challenge BJ on in-breaking routes and challenge Awuzie on sideline routes.

BJ tended to play safe on in-breaking routes staying well behind the WR until the ball was in the air.

One play that I saw often was:
Awuzie on the side with 1 WR.
The RB running a pass route in the flat to that side.
The WR running a sideline route with an intermediate to deep pass.

Another difference is that Awuzie was on the strong side where the DE tends to align tight.
BJ was on the weak side where the RDE aligns wide.
Awuzie was also on the side which is the front side for right handed QBs.
Deep sideline passes are easier on the front side and QBs have better visibility to that side.

Summary:
Awuzie ended up isolated with no help far more often than BJ.

It's difficult to say how much of that was Kris Richard and how much was how offenses played right/left or how offenses played BJ vs how they played Awuzie.

Drawing my own conclusions based on what you have said studying the film:

-A
Good question.

It's always difficult to know how much is coaching requirements vs player style as well as how offenses challenge different players and different sides of the field.

The main issue was that when offenses challenged on a sideline go route, it was most often when Awuzie was on the side with only 1 WR and the FS was shaded to the opposite side where there were 2 WRs.

I didn't count every snap but it seemed that the slot WR lined up on the side with BJ far more often (when is was an intermediate or long pass).

Offenses liked to challenge BJ on in-breaking routes and challenge Awuzie on sideline routes.

BJ tended to play safe on in-breaking routes staying well behind the WR until the ball was in the air.

One play that I saw often was:
Awuzie on the side with 1 WR.
The RB running a pass route in the flat to that side.
The WR running a sideline route with an intermediate to deep pass.

Another difference is that Awuzie was on the strong side where the DE tends to align tight.
BJ was on the weak side where the RDE aligns wide.
Awuzie was also on the side which is the front side for right handed QBs.
Deep sideline passes are easier on the front side and QBs have better visibility to that side.

Summary:
Awuzie ended up isolated with no help far more often than BJ.

It's difficult to say how much of that was Kris Richard and how much was how offenses played right/left or how offenses played BJ vs how they played Awuzie.

Drawing my own conclusions of what you have said watching the film:

-Awuzie was the team's most versatile corner on their roster. The prior staff trusted him playing many different roles within the secondary.
-Defensive scheme held him back. Too many hats within the defense, along with a conservative, defensive strategy to keep receivers in front of him.

Where do you see his fit with this new defensive scheme under Mike Nolan? Do you see him more of a boundary CB or more of an inside player? Perhaps both?
 

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I'm tired of explaining this crap. I KNOW it happened. Not gonna go into it again. They are both gone.
you know it happened, because you had this whole story made up in your mind, but nothing was ever proven anywhere nor was there any reality to this fantasy...perhaps too much drama TV leads to some preceptions in real life...maybe you want to curb your TV habits....

it was stupid then...its stupid now.
 

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you know it happened, because you had this whole story made up in your mind, but nothing was ever proven anywhere nor was there any reality to this fantasy...perhaps too much drama TV leads to some preceptions in real life...maybe you want to curb your TV habits....

it was stupid then...its stupid now.
My staff and I used to meet with Wade and his staff, that's where I get my info from. Stick to Madden and piss off!
 

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The coaching was bad enough in 2019. We don't need false narratives to pile on and blame them for things that were not really problems.

The George Iloka comments have caused a comical narrative.

People that are quoting him don't appear to have listened to his entire interview.

Iloka said that Kris Richard told him not to disguise coverage.
- Some pseudo media think that Iloka said KR told him to stay deep regardless.
- Iloka actually ended up saying that KR wanted to show an 8 man box and tempt teams to pass.
- He said that Zimmer/Edwards wanted to show 7 in the box to tempt teams to run.

Iloka also said that Awuzie indicated he always played the same technique.
- The All-22 is available to everyone for a low cost. Awuzie didn't always play the same technique.

Iloka never made the team and was 3rd string in the preseason.
- He is probably not fond of KR regardless of what actually happened.

The coaching was beyond terrible in 2019, but not for the reasons that people are now claiming.

The #1 problem with the defense was that Marinelli refused to change the DL scheme.
- The DL scheme was outdated and exposed by the Rams in the playoff game.
- In 2019 KR was in control of the back 7 and Marinelli still in control of the DL.
- KR tried to adapt the back 7 to stop the bleeding in run defense that was caused by the DL scheme.
- KR's changed ended up making it worse but he was in a no win situation.
- When offenses can run the ball with 3 OL blocking 4 DL and the other 2 OL free to block LBs, it's a fail for defense.

KR took all the help defenders from Awuzie and moved them inside and up to defend the run.
- Offenses would put 1 WR on Awuzies side.
- The Cowboys FS would align towards the side with 2 WRs.
- That meant Awuzie had no deep help on most plays.
- In Seattle with the Legion of Boom scheme, Richard Sherman often had help both inside deep and inside short.
- In 2019 KR had the inside short coverage help (SS and LBs) up near the DL to focus on the run.
- Despite Awuzie having no help deep or short on many plays, they also required him to be strong run defender on outside runs to his side.
- Awuzie was basically playing the Deion coverage style (no help) but even Deion didn't have the same run defense duties as Awuzie.
- It was indeed moronic to put Awuzie into that situation, but the problem was not because of technique or lack of disguising coverage.

In 2018 which was KR's first season with the Cowboys, the improvement in coaching of the secondary was obvious.
- It was obvious in reviewing game footage.
- It was also supported by player comments.
- CB Brown said the previous DB coaches never told him what technique to play and didn't even coach him on the differences in technique vs various situations. He said he learned more in a few months with KR than all years previously.

Quality post!
 

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you know it happened, because you had this whole story made up in your mind, but nothing was ever proven anywhere nor was there any reality to this fantasy...perhaps too much drama TV leads to some preceptions in real life...maybe you want to curb your TV habits....

it was stupid then...its stupid now.


It's BS, Wade defense quit on him.
 

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Good coaches put their players in the best situation to succeed. It is clear that Marinelli is a stubborn coach that refuses to change his approach. He surely bears some blame. However, in my opinion, Garrett is the HC and had the authority and responsibility to check his coaches and make sure they perform their jobs to standard. He failed to act and hold coaches accountable-- so the greatest responsibility for the mess lies with him (and ultimately with JJ and SJ for tolerating Garrett for as long as they did)
They were both trash. Stop fanboying over a bum coach who accomplished nothing here.
 

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he is a good guy, he never felt that garrett stabbed him in the back, he laughs about that, finds it funny. He had a good relationship with Jason. we always laugh about jerry, acting as a pseudo coach in the meetings.
Good to hear. I spoke to Garrett once about the offense and he told me that Romo had no say on the play calling. As soon as he took over Romo started calling plays at the LOS. I never trusted him after that. Wade was always very personable and would sit and talk to us about football and treat us as equals. Garett was very aloof. Never liked him.
 

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he is a good guy, he never felt that garrett stabbed him in the back, he laughs about that, finds it funny. He had a good relationship with Jason. we always laugh about jerry, acting as a pseudo coach in the meetings.
Next time you talk to him tell him that he is very much appreciated amongst South Texas HS football coaches.
 

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you know it happened, because you had this whole story made up in your mind, but nothing was ever proven anywhere nor was there any reality to this fantasy...perhaps too much drama TV leads to some preceptions in real life...maybe you want to curb your TV habits....

it was stupid then...its stupid now.
That's exactly what that was from the start, stupid drama by drama queens.

It's almost like some writer made a bet w/ one of his buds that he could get people to buy into a really really stupid idea. Wonder what he won, a buck?
 

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Well, this thread took a turn...

Appreciate the insight and confirmation of what most of us thought, CowboysFaninHouston.
 

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They were both trash. Stop fanboying over a bum coach who accomplished nothing here.

lol if you think I was “fanboying” over anyone on our staff— you missed the point. I am merely pointing out that amidst all the blame to be shared over the cluster-cuss last year; as the HC Garrett deserves the lion’s share
 

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Drawing my own conclusions based on what you have said studying the film:

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Drawing my own conclusions of what you have said watching the film:

-Awuzie was the team's most versatile corner on their roster. The prior staff trusted him playing many different roles within the secondary.
-Defensive scheme held him back. Too many hats within the defense, along with a conservative, defensive strategy to keep receivers in front of him.

Where do you see his fit with this new defensive scheme under Mike Nolan? Do you see him more of a boundary CB or more of an inside player? Perhaps both?
Where ever they need him.

Probably start outside then move to NCB in Nickel which is about 70%.
 

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Where ever they need him.

Probably start outside then move to NCB in Nickel which is about 70%.

That is what I was thinking. He is going to be on the field every down, no matter if it's at CB, S or even LB.
 
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