Video: Chris Simms: Dak is not Top 5

This is Our Year said:

Any Cowboys fan who thinks Dak is a top 5 QB in the league needs his head examined. I love Dak and we can win with him, big fan and happy he’s our QB, but he ain’t one of the 5 best in the NFL.

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So if this was Aikman or Romo who just put up almost 5,000 yards on 65% completions, would you say they weren't top 5?

jday said:

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sims in all his expertise says this.

Aikman who is ceirical f Dak when he has bad games says he would pay Dak.

Who's opinion are you going to run with?

Redline360 said:

What research do I need to do? The proof is written in the record books. Brady, brees, wilson, mahomes, Rodgers all have superbowls and playoff success. Once Dak has similar success....hell half their success we can then make an argument.

Why wouldn't the cowboys be interested in keeping Dak? He's still falls in the top 10 range. Who sounds ignorant now?

Let me guess you also think Dak is better than Aikman cause he has those "omg look at his stats are better" stats lmao

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And how did Aikman do when #88 or #22 sat? Aikman career 61.5% completions, 165 TD's/141 INT's. Give Dak Norv Turner to run thhe offense, and Aikman can have Kellen Moore.

As a Longhorn fan, I will never willingly watch a Simms video

Typhus said:

You are wrong on so many levels, ive never placed anyone on ignore, but your lack of talent evaluation might make you the first.
Better than even Jackson... you have no understanding of basic talent, much less top end talent.

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Ouch. You're gonna put me on ignore just for that? What have I done to you?

Jackson is a product of his offense, dude. I doubt Baltimore is asking him to make the Dan Marino kind of throws, and let's see how he'll look once he has to. He's a better runner tho and he can definitely run an offense, but it's not out of the realm of logic to think Dak is better especially since Lamar has only had one real year on an awesome team.

Captain-Crash said:

Let's breakdown the Prescott-Cowboys contract situation: Dak Prescott, per insiders, is not budging on a contract worth $40+ million dollars per year — and by all accounts, Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys front-office feel out of their comfort zone with offering Prescott a contract worth $33-$35 million dollars per year.

As of yesterday, insiders say that Dak Prescott's latest counter-offer consists of a whopping $42 million dollars per year, for 4-5 years. Now: Le'ts take $42 million dollars with a grain of salt. While we have a number to report, we do not, however, have any information beyond that number. We do not know the proposed guaranteed dollar amount. We do not know if certain potential contract incentives favor the team. We simply have one number at this point: $42 million per year. In August of last year, Dak Prescott turned down a contract offer from the Cowboys that would've paid him $30 million per year, per CBS. We also learned in August of last year, that Prescott first demanded $40 million dollars per year, per USA Today. Yesterday's news of $42 million per year shouldn't be seen as anything other than symbolic: Dak isn't budging. And Jerry Jones seems unwilling to go up in price — as he is already at his limit with Prescott — offering the Quarterback $33-$35 million dollars per year. How will this play out? Well, the Cowboys responded by signing a well known, and well-established Quarterback — Andy Dalton. If Prescott does decide to hold-out due to himself not receiving $40 million+ dollars per year to play, Prescott would be saying he is willing to gamble his football future on Andy Dalton not being able to lead the Cowboys to a winning season.

However, if Andy Dalton were to lead the Cowboys to success, perhaps even to the playoffs... well, Prescott's price, of course, at that point, would be so deteriorated, the Cowboys would likely offer Prescott a much lower contract than previously proposed, and Prescott would then be likely to hit the free-agent market looking for a desperate team to over-pay him. Again, assuming he, A: Holds-out. B: Andy Dalton actually wins games and makes things spicy throughout the season (Jerry loves spicy.)

But will Dak hold-out? Per Mike Florio, the likelihood of Prescott holding out is "high."

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You are way off. 40 million isn't even in the conversation.

This is basically fake news.

Top 9...that's reasonable

PJTHEDOORS said:

So if this was Aikman or Romo who just put up almost 5,000 yards on 65% completions, would you say they weren't top 5?

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No one is talking about Aikman or Romo. You are a gigantic beating.

I think the Cowboys should sign Dak. But i'm not ******** so no I dont think he's a top 5 NFL QB. Only some homer with no self-awareness would think he is.

PJTHEDOORS said:

And how did Aikman do when #88 or #22 sat? Aikman career 61.5% completions, 165 TD's/141 INT's. Give Dak Norv Turner to run thhe offense, and Aikman can have Kellen Moore.

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Not denying Aikman struggled when be first inherited the team or later in his career. Most if not all quarterbacks struggle without weapons. Aikman also inherited a horrible football team unlike dak. Also completely different eras of football. League is so passer friendly its almost sickening of course stats going to be inflated nowadays.

My point was aikman has the feats and accomplishments that dak doesn't come close too. Stats are not everything. Its a team game. Very few quarterbacks through history are generational talent. Dak isn't one of them

Who gives a crap about any of the arguing. I mean seriously we are all supposed to root for the same F.... team. Most of us are smart people and smart fans. We all seem to agree on so many things. We are talking semantics on Dak. I think he is top 20. Someone else gets their panties all ruffled because they think he is top 5. I will say the difference from the top 6-7 QB's in the league down to #15 or #20 is kind of small. Their is a lot of average QB's in the league. If the Dak "haters" phrased it that their is about 100 QB's in the NFL and Dak is better than 4 out of 5 would that make the pro Dak people happy?

No one is going to change people's minds. I am very confident & happy to watch the 2020 season and see how it all plays out. It seems like the pro Dak fans want to prove their point right now. If you are confident of your opinion than just sit back and relax. If Dak even Trent Dilfer's us to a SB.... I will say that he got the job done and that is all that matters.

And for the record no one has given me or can give me an example of Dak playing great without all his supporting cast. Great QB's can still play great if they are missing 2-3 good players. If Dak is missing anybody at all he falls apart. And for the member who says I was moving the goalpost because I said I want ONE example.... and than I later said I want ONE GOOD example. I would disagree that is moving the goalposts. I don't want a BAD example... than it is not an example.

2016-11-1 start.... Great
2-3 finish.... lost as the #1 seed not good

2017- 9-7.... Offense set records for futility when Smith & Zeke were absent.

2018- 3-4.... Offense set records for futility
Amari shows up...
8-3 finish. Good

2019- 8-8.... The whole team to blame. Defense cost us. Special Teams & Offense cost us. In at least 6 losses the Offense stunk. Bills..... down a lot. Bears.... down a lot. Eagles... FG's. Patriots.... FG's. Saints... they never even scored a TD, they beat us with FG's. Packers.... down 31-3. Jets down 21-3.

Dak getting a pay raise from $2 million a year to $35-$40 a million a year will affect Dak and the rest of the team. Right now we should all be rooting for Dak he is probably going thru a real crappy time in his life.

Like everyone else on this forum. I watch every play of every game. I have not missed a game since I was 7. Last year I saw Dak have all day to throw. I saw WR's wide wide open. So yes the supporting cast is great. Dallas WR's led the league in drops. Dak also had 16 dropped Interceptions last year..... going off the consensus number. I actually counted more. The ying and yang of throwing a hard to catch pass. Your receivers will drop a lot.... but than again so will the other team.

Every pro Dak fan wants to blame the coaching.... Okay I can jump on that bandwagon.... I do not agree with all of it. The coaches don't play the game. And also Garrett has been made to be a total buffoon on here while MM is made to be the savior....But okay we will see this season how it goes.... But if Dallas goes 9-7 and misses the playoffs can you at least keep your mind open to the possibility that maybe the average QB is to blame? Because I know if Dallas wins the SB I will man up and admit I was wrong.... irregardless of stats. Dak can throw 30 picks if he wins the SB I will say he did enough..... although I will never admit Eli Manning was any good. He was a Giant and he sucks.

Dak is seen as a good but not elite QB due to his lack of signature wins or games where he helped the team come back and win . Dak does not give that impression as he has fizzled and lost all major games and got beaten against almost all winning teams .

jday said:

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On Simms saying that the supply of quality QBs from college is going up, I've been thinking that for years, Also bumping up the supply of quality QBs is the protection they receive, and medical advances. They're playing *longer* as well.

At some point somebody has got to notice that if the supply goes up, and demand stays the same, the price should be coming down.

We should always be making a serious effort to at least *have a chance* of playing with a QB on his rookie deal, or a cheap veteran. Mike White was not a serious effort. Let's have McCarthy''s QB School be a regular and ongoing development effort to develop NFL QBs.

I wish Dalton had been signed for future *option* years at a decent starter salary, so that development on him in our system doesn't go to waste.

kumizi said:

No one is talking about Aikman or Romo. You are a gigantic beating.

I think the Cowboys should sign Dak. But i'm not ******** so no I dont think he's a top 5 NFL QB. Only some homer with no self-awareness would think he is.

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I am talking Aikman and Romo when it comes to double standards in what they expect out of Dak, then saying no way he is a top 5 QB. As I said, if this was prime Aikman/Romo asking for top money based on their QB play, you'd have a different attitude.

A top five what?

What specifically is he supposed to be top five in and why does that matter? Half the starters in the league will be out before Dak's next contract expires.

Forget Brady, He won't be in the NFL halfway through this contract. Forget Rodgers too. Brees and Ryan. Gone. You can't include these guys for a four year span of 2020 to 2024. Stafford, Roethlisberger, Rivers, what are they going to do for the next 4 seasons?

Of all the QB's that will still most likely be playing in 2024, Dak Prescott is at least statistically a top 5 quarterback.........if that is what is meant by "top 5"

Many folks don't like statistics but without them, they are just another guy with an opinion and that's all Phil Simms is, just another guy with an opinion.

rnr_honeybadger said:

Is Dak perfect? No. Has anyone claimed that Dak is perfect? No. So what the heck is it with all this hate for this guy? Did he go out there and break Tony Romos back? Did he break Kellen Moore’s foot? Lol, 4th round pick in 4 years in the league with an absolute imbecile as HC, has done better than anybody expected him to. I remember his first year starting people around here had written off the season as a lost cause because of Romos injury but hey, he doesn’t throw the ball the way I expect him to throw the ball so he’s clearly a bum, seriously get a grip.

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Stop living vicariously through professional athletes. Your obsession with Dak is weird. You feel personally attacked when people criticize him. Get help.

acr731 said:

All you have to do is watch this.....



Or this....


But this was the best...

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After reviewing the videos RESCIND, RESCIND, RESCIND, RESCIND and go with a cheaper and better Dalton!
With the extra cash go get a DE that are still out there.

plasticman said:

A top five what?

What specifically is he supposed to be top five in and why does that matter? Half the starters in the league will be out before Dak's next contract expires.

Forget Brady, He won't be in the NFL halfway through this contract. Forget Rodgers too. Brees and Ryan. Gone. You can't include these guys for a four year span of 2020 to 2024. Stafford, Roethlisberger, Rivers, what are they going to do for the next 4 seasons?

Of all the QB's that will still most likely be playing in 2024, Dak Prescott is at least statistically a top 5 quarterback.........if that is what is meant by "top 5"

Many folks don't like statistics but without them, they are just another guy with an opinion and that's all Phil Simms is, just another guy with an opinion.

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So Dak is a top 5 QB in 2024? Do you know how dumb you sound? I like Dak & hope we sign him, but his fanboys are the most weirdest MFs around.

Dak can play some ball but he also throws to ankles and angels at times when it counts.

StarBoyz83 said:

Top 10ish

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Top 100

PJTHEDOORS said:

I am talking Aikman and Romo when it comes to double standards in what they expect out of Dak, then saying no way he is a top 5 QB. As I said, if this was prime Aikman/Romo asking for top money based on their QB play, you'd have a different attitude.

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So by that argument, if you have a Top 5 QB and you don't succeed.....what's the point in giving him more money, thus reducing Cap available to improve the team in areas that you don't have Top 5 players?

Aikman won a SB before his first post draft contract.

Dak and Romo are/were similar in that they are undoubtable talents ….. but are/were they going to make you a winner??

It appears Dak comparing himself to the other 2016 drafted QB's rather than what he's worth or what he deserves based on achievements.