Video: Did we miss something with Jason Garrett?

Ranched · May 15, 2020

"Did we miss something with Jason Garrett?"

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Zekeats · May 15, 2020

Redball Express said:
I have been sort of interested about how Garrett is being taken in the Big Apple.

We will play him twice a year for now,

Look at the spin on his expectations..

Some guys are just good coordinators. Jason Might be one of them. He is not a leader and isn’t a master of the minds so a head coach he is not but what scares me is if he runs the ball consistently with saquan they can become a power house offense. After watching the giants a lot living in NJ the one thing the past staff has done is they don’t stick with running the ball and Saquan is a beast.

Redball Express · May 15, 2020

JMech said:
Do you keep a large poster of him in your bedroom? The image is really giving me the willies.........

Nah...

I just have a feeling Garrett is capable and not the mensch we want to label him as.

Jerrah was really at his worst with Garrett.

Let's just all hope we are right about Garrett. He is going to be ready for us for sure.

CowboyRoy · May 15, 2020

RoboQB said:
Speaking in terms of yardage and scoring only, not wins and losses,
Garrett will experience that "new car smell". It may only last the first
week. I expect the usual results to show up, possibly by week 2 or 3,
but I'll give him to the end of September.

The moment he finds himself in a tight game, we'll see it.
I expect Dallas to absolutely kill the Giants in both games, so
you may see some empty stats in a 42-24 game that was never
in doubt.

Yah, he has Barkley and I do like Jones, but he is young.

CowboyRoy · May 15, 2020

Zekeats said:
Some guys are just good coordinators. Jason Might be one of them. He is not a leader and isn’t a master of the minds so a head coach he is not but what scares me is if he runs the ball consistently with saquan they can become a power house offense. After watching the giants a lot living in NJ the one thing the past staff has done is they don’t stick with running the ball and Saquan is a beast.

LOL...…...Garrett is definitely NOT "one of them".

Its BARKLEY that is scary, not Garrett. If Garrett has ANY brains he will run and pass the ball to Barkley 30 times a game. The success of that offense will depend on how quickly they can fix the Oline. They didn't stick with the run because of that.

JohnsKey19 · May 15, 2020

Portnoy1 said:
When they went 4-12 in 15' he shouldve been fired immediately. Garrett witnesses 2 season of frail and needy Romo in 2013 and 2014. So to not have a plan when Romo went down in 15' is unacceptable. They should have a had a competent backup looking at Romo's condition.

xwalker · May 15, 2020

Redball Express said:
I have been sort of interested about how Garrett is being taken in the Big Apple.

We will play him twice a year for now,

Look at the spin on his expectations..

Garrett will be OK in NYC. The RB and QB are probably a good fit in his scheme. If he has a strong Head Coach that is in charge of the other offensive coaches and has control over the players, Garrett's offense will be OK.

Redball Express · May 15, 2020

xwalker said:
Garrett will be OK in NYC. The RB and QB are probably a good fit in his scheme. If he has a strong Head Coach that is in charge of the other offensive coaches and has control over the players, Garrett's offense will be OK.

Yeah..

Just following along.

I hoped it would work for him but it did not. He was a loyal if not under-appreciated HC that required more help than we could provide.

He will always be a positive part of the Cowboy history from his playing days to now.

We are hopefully better now but not sure just yet.

Time will tell.

Rockport · May 15, 2020

Redball Express said:
I have been sort of interested about how Garrett is being taken in the Big Apple.

We will play him twice a year for now,

Look at the spin on his expectations..

Only a Dak hater would ask your question.

xwalker · May 15, 2020

Redball Express said:
Yeah..

Just following along.

I hoped it would work for him but it did not. He was a loyal if not under-appreciated HC that required more help than we could provide.

He will always be a positive part of the Cowboy history from his playing days to now.

We are hopefully better now but not sure just yet.

Time will tell.

The Giants QB will need an Alpha type personality to avoid getting locked into Garrett's limitations or the Head Coach will need to facilitate that concept.

It's always unfortunate when Coordinators get bumped to Head Coach but should have stayed as Coordinators. Wade Phillips has been a terrific Coordinator but Cowboys fans will always remember him as a failed Head Coach.

Redball Express · May 15, 2020

cowboyec said:
no....we pretty much knew after his second 8-8 season.

Yeah..

4 of those 8-8 seasons was just too insane.

Once Jerrah saw Dak go 8-8 last year in a make-or-break year..

that was it for everybody. In each of those years..

just win one more game and we have 4 more playoff runs.

That would turn Landry over in his grave.

:omg:

xwalker · May 15, 2020

JohnsKey19 said:

It's somewhat of a true statement. Weeden was great at throwing the ball but he was a terrible QB.

There have been others in that category. Jeff George is the one that always comes to mind for me.

Meanwhile, the QB that many considered the best ever, Joe Montana, had an average at best arm.

JMech · May 15, 2020

Redball Express said:
Nah...

I just have a feeling Garrett is capable and not the mensch we want to label him as.

Jerrah was really at his worst with Garrett.

Let's just all hope we are right about Garrett. He is going to be ready for us for sure.

You don't get it do you? He was never capable.........never. When most people here would take anyone but Garrett, it defines just how terrible this guy truly was. He simply robbed Jerry for many years. Jones believed Aikman when Troy said he would make a good head coach. We know that Troy made many a bone-head assessment over the years and I keep thinking of him favoring David LaFleur over a former HofFer.

No one on here is afraid of facing that idiot. He worked to simplify offenses and defenses, probably because he couldn't understand them himself. Other teams knew what was coming. He will not change. He has demonstrated that as a true strength!

JoeKing · May 15, 2020

Direwolf63 said:
Lol!

Garrett managed to go 8-8 with a top 10 offense and defense. It takes a special kind of incompetence to accomplish that.

Redball Express · May 15, 2020

JMech said:
You don't get it do you? He was never capable.........never. When most people here would take anyone but Garrett, it defines just how terrible this guy truly was. He simply robbed Jerry for many years. Jones believed Aikman when Troy said he would make a good head coach. We know that Troy made many a bone-head assessment over the years and I keep thinking of him favoring David LaFleur over a former HofFer.

No one on here is afraid of facing that idiot. He worked to simplify offenses and defenses, probably because he couldn't understand them himself. Other teams knew what was coming. He will not change. He has demonstrated that as a true strength!

I say play ball and let's see.

I really do not have a body of work away from the Cowboys to make an educated judgement.

Time will tell. If you want to judge...go ahead.

I am not stopping you. We are just fans.

I will say as a season ticket owner since 1966..

I have a bit of weight in my views. But everybody, paying customer or non-paying customer can say what they feel.

So tell me, when my brothers and my nephew spend over $4000 a year to attend games..

are we being suckers or Uber fans?

Or are we just rich mindless mother's without a clue?

ColoradoCowboy · May 15, 2020

DeathMonkey said:
When you're on the bottom rung, Garrett can easily take you to "the next level." Sadly, they're still going to be a level under the Cowboys (and Eagles). They might outdo the Commanders.

OK, that's valid.

ABQCOWBOY · May 15, 2020

I've got one piece of advice for Judge. Spend 30 minutes, pick up the phone and call Wade Phillips. Discuss with him, what to watch for when Garrett is your OC..........

Direwolf63 · May 15, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
Never seen anything like it.

We were something like #3 in the NFL in point differential or yard differential. Up there with the best teams in the NFL. But somehow we went 8-8? I know some think otherwise, but for me, Garrett is the worst coach of the Cowboys ever. Literally the worst coach I have EVER seen in the NFL and its not even close for me.

Campo, Wade, Gaily...……....I take every single one of those over Garrett.

I don't recall anybody accomplishing less with more than Garrett. He may be OK as a OC, but was never a good HC.

CouchCoach · May 15, 2020

Garrett was a not a good HC but he was the HC for Booger. His comfort was of the utmost importance and you can bet that was job 1 for McC in that 12 hour interview.

I do not know what kind of OC he's going to be in NY, that OL is not great, 2nd year QB and their best weapons are a RB and TE. It will be interesting to play against his offense twice year while he is there.

There is something about Garrett we do not see and most don't want to see. When the guy was wet behind the years in coaching, he was in demand in ATL and BAL and DET had asked to interview him. He will always get a second look because of who he worked for in Dallas and the unknown about the extent of the Joneses except for holding up team meetings.

One thing many don't seem to want to consider is just how many great OC's or O HC's are there in the NFL? Payton comes to mind but he only has 2 trips and 1 ring. Reid? He needed the hottest new QB to come in since Elway to get his 1st ring. McVay, wasn't he the second coming and the new poster boy for O? Wasn't Norv Turner always the answer?

My point is there really isn't any great coaching and certainly not any stretching beyond the level of talent on these teams. Garrett is not nearly as bad as some make him out to be, he's just in a pack of mediocre coaching....unless they hit the talent jackpot like KC and BAL and SEA because of the skills of that QB.

I have a theory about Garrett and his 90's style offense, that was all by design. I believe coming in, alongside his partner in crime Stuphen, the job was to convince the GM to return to what really brought him glory and that sale took a little because he was enamored with his Favre-like QB in the center ring. But finally he did make the sale and we saw that with 3 1st round OL and a RB. It was to be a return to glory just like the old days. The problem was we don't even know if that O would have been as successful in the last 10 tears as the league was evolving.

One thing in that video sang 100% correct, coaches do what they do. In order for LSU to do what they did, they couldn't rely on their OC so they brought a "helper" in Joe Brady because their OC was a lot like Garrett. He was stuck in that 90's offense because that's what he knows.

Garrett will run what he knows, what he learned from Turner, who learned it from Zampese. He was hired to run his offense and get the most out of the two best weapons, Barkley and Ingram. Just like he did RB's and a TE in Dallas. He gets heat for not adapting, why should he? That's what he learned when that was dominating TOP and winning SB's. You see many coaches evolving? Kansas State has Bill Snider there to do what he's done for over 40 years.

Garrett has been the convenient dumping ground for everything wrong with the Cowboys and if he got something right, it was blind luck. I agreed with a change being necessary but I don't lay it all on coaching, execution matters.

BHendri5 · May 15, 2020

Hell yes!! But it was Jerry’s fault. Because he didn’t let Garrett coach the team the way he wanted and the team needed to be coached. So when the Giants let him do his job as a OC and soon to be HC he will have the giants back in the thick of things and a thorn in our side

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