What makes someone love Dak while hating Romo, or vice versa?

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Some people come to this board for no other reason than to grind axes. He's trying to fabricate an argument with me, too.
What a sad existence. Not to mention that I'm capable of about 25 more gears with regard to insults :)
 

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It's not an insult. I apologize if that's how you took it. I do, however, wish you could see the irony in your posts.
Looks like we just have different views, nothing wrong in that. stay safe.
 

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I think a lot has to due with frustration with the lack of post season success spanning decades.

Add to that some are entrenched in their opinions and are doubling down. As if praise for one is some sort of zero sum game.
 

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Cowboy fans hated Romo so much that they were okay letting a very average rookie QB keep his job on arguably our most talented team in a decade. Truthfully though, only people who have watched every one of both players snaps will truly understand the differences between the 2 players. I did not miss one single snap of Romo's career and I haven't missed one single snap of Dak's career. It's easy to watch highlights of a game or look up stats and put together a conclusion of who you think is better. That's all fine and dandy but to really understand the difference between the two it's almost a "you had to be there" moment. Throughout the 1st, 2nd 3rd and 4th quarters, while the game was live and the emotions were rolling, you could tell he was a lot more talented then any other player on the field. You could feel the magic when he had the ball in his hand. He wasn't as careful as Dak and might of tried to make plays that weren't there sure, but he was the best player on the field almost every time he was on the field. I've never once felt like Dak was better then anyone else playing on that day. Not once. That's my personal opinion of the difference between the 2. I don't hate Dak but he just isn't the talent Romo was. Dak is the perfect example of a lunch pail worker. Brings his lunch to work puts in his hours and clocks out. He does his job decently and goes home. He's not going to be noticed by everyone for messing up and he's not going to be noticed for being the best guy on site.

I agree that Peak Romo was better than Dak has ever been...so far. But if you compare the first 4 years of Romo - 2003-2007, Dak has been better than Romo was over the first 4 years of his career. And Dak is improving. Despite claims that "either you're accurate or you're not," Dak has improved his accuracy over the first 4 years of his career. His downfield accuracy is a lot better than people give him credit for.

I do believe that Dak doesn't have the "bullseye" accuracy of Romo or Aikman. But you don't have to perfectly hit the bulleye. They pay receivers also, and Dak get's it into their catch radius just as often. He may not hit the X-ring, but he doesn't miss the target any more often than the other two. And hitting the target should be good enough in almost all cases. He puts his receivers in position to make plays, which is more than adequate.

If Dak keeps improving as he has been over his first 4 seasons, his trajectory will take him farther than Romo ever got. I think it is imminently reasonable for the Cowboys to consider him a bona fide franchise QB. He has the best rookie QB campaign in the 100 year history of the NFL. He regressed for a time in his 2nd campaign (which is hardly unusual), but has since been improving every season. Last year was his best ever year. And while it may seem like an excuse, people need to remember he couldn't even throw the ball in practice the week before the Eagles game last year. That's why adding Andy Dalton is such a good move by the Cowboys. If they had a decent back-up last season, then Dak would have been sitting in the deciding game against the Eagles, and the Cowboys (who were and still are the better team) would have had a better chance to reach post-season last year.

Bottom Line: Betting on Dak to continue improving and become one of the top QB's in the NFL is a reasonable bet for the front office.

I do still wonder if the 2016 team could have reached the Super Bowl if Romo had been allowed to return. But with injuries blowing up Romo for back-to-back seasons in 2015 & 2016, it isn't hard to recognize that Romo's time was done. Even if you believe Romo was better at the time (which I do), I don't see how you risk your season and blow up your teams confidence in the rookie by bringing Romo back. Romo was right. Dak earned the right to be the starter.
 
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I agree that Peak Romo was better than Dak has ever been...so far. But if you compare the first 4 years of Romo - 2003-2007, Dak has been better than Romo was over the first 4 years of his career. And Dak is improving. Despite claims that "either you're accurate or you're not," Dak has improved his accuracy over the first 4 years of his career. His downfield accuracy is a lot better than people give him credit for.

I do believe that Dak doesn't have the "bullseye" accuracy of Romo or Aikman. But you don't have to perfectly hit the bulleye. They pay receivers also, and Dak get's it into their catch radius just as often. He may not hit the X-ring, but he doesn't miss the target any more often than the other two. And hitting the target should be good enough in almost all cases. He puts his receivers in position to make plays, which is more than adequate.

If Dak keeps improving as he has been over his first 4 seasons, his trajectory will take him farther than Romo ever got. I think it is imminently reasonable for the Cowboys to consider him a bona fide franchise QB. He has the best rookie QB campaign in the 100 year history of the NFL. He regressed for a time in his 2nd campaign (which is hardly unusual), but has since been improving every season. Last year was his best ever year. And while it may seem like an excuse, people need to remember he couldn't even throw the ball in practice the week before the Eagles game last year. That's why adding Andy Dalton is such a good move by the Cowboys. If they had a decent back-up last season, then Dak would have been sitting in the deciding game against the Eagles, and the Cowboys (who were and still are the better team) would have had a better chance to reach post-season last year.

Bottom Line: Betting on Dak to continue improving and become one of the top QB's in the NFL is a reasonable bet for the front office.

I do still wonder if the 2016 team could have reached the Super Bowl if Romo had been allowed to return. But with injuries blowing up Romo for back-to-back seasons in 2015 & 2016, it isn't hard to recognize that Romo's time was done. Even if you believe Romo was better at the time (which I do), I don't see how you risk your season and blow up your teams confidence in the rookie by bringing Romo back. Romo was right. Dak earned the right to be the starter.

I don't disagree that Dak could improve even more and become a better overall player then Romo was. The possibility is certainly there with Dak and his pure talent. However, in the 4 years I've watched Dak I've never felt that magical feeling. I get it from time to time when I watch athletes that play for my favorite teams. I remember having that feeling with Derek Rose when he was a rookie. I remember in Romo's first half season he played you could tell he was different. There was that feeling in your gut like we have something REALLY special right here on our team. In Dak's 4 year career I don't get that feeling quite yet. Could it happen? Absolutely it could. I really believe it could, but it hasn't yet and it worries me a little. That's my biggest take away from the differences between both the love and hate for both players. Me personally, I don't hate either player. We are lucky to have them both, but if we could have prime Romo heading into next season I'd take that all week long and 5 more times on Sunday.
 

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Note: I don't want this to be the 500th edition of "Dak sucks" or "Romo sucks." Let's keep this one different - let's stay on topic, focused, and not stray into the usual same-old same-old arguments we've had elsewhere for years.




There are many Cowboys fans who love both Romo and Dak. There are also a few who, for some reason, hate both Romo and Dak. Okay, that's fine - at least they're consistent.

What puzzles me is fans who love Romo while hating Dak, or love Dak while hating Romo.

Because, from a purely objective standpoint, both players were quite similar. They both have a 1:2 ratio of playoff wins to losses, for instance. They were usually good enough to put the Cowboys in playoff contention every single December, even if not getting them in outright. They both made plays with their arms and legs, they had times when they were let down by shoddy defense or a bad O-line, they were both players of good character, etc. They both had good touchdown-to-interception ratios. They are both Pro Bowl level quarterbacks that the Cowboys were lucky to stumble into (one was a 4th-round pick, one was undrafted.)


In fact, I bet I could get some stats for both players - passing stats, win-to-loss ratio, etc. - and Cowboys Zoners wouldn't be able to readily guess which belonged to Romo and which belonged to Dak.

Yet - over the past few years - we've seen a stunning turnaround. The exact same posters here who criticized Romo, "It's wins that count, not stats" - now suddenly defend Dak by touting his stats and also saying, "A quarterback can't win by himself, it's a team game." And the exact same posters who defended Romo by saying "a quarterback can't win by himself" suddenly now criticize Dak "it's wins that count, not stats."

What gives? It's a strange, bizarre, hypocrisy.
Living outside of texas, i hear my friends and other people say that dallas fans are fairweather fans , been in this place for awhile and i see what they say its tru! Lots of haterz in here ... i love both dak and romo, but you only sucessful if you have a good team around you
 

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Look..since 2016 vs Pittsburgh Steelers game on the road Daks been my guy. I’m ok with the folks on the other side. That’s your opinion but to me the guy is an absolute winner. Loved Romo too but Dak will be and has already proved to be better. Health, stats...availability...period.
 

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Note: I don't want this to be the 500th edition of "Dak sucks" or "Romo sucks." Let's keep this one different - let's stay on topic, focused, and not stray into the usual same-old same-old arguments we've had elsewhere for years.




There are many Cowboys fans who love both Romo and Dak. There are also a few who, for some reason, hate both Romo and Dak. Okay, that's fine - at least they're consistent.

What puzzles me is fans who love Romo while hating Dak, or love Dak while hating Romo.

Because, from a purely objective standpoint, both players were quite similar. They both have a 1:2 ratio of playoff wins to losses, for instance. They were usually good enough to put the Cowboys in playoff contention every single December, even if not getting them in outright. They both made plays with their arms and legs, they had times when they were let down by shoddy defense or a bad O-line, they were both players of good character, etc. They both had good touchdown-to-interception ratios. They are both Pro Bowl level quarterbacks that the Cowboys were lucky to stumble into (one was a 4th-round pick, one was undrafted.)


In fact, I bet I could get some stats for both players - passing stats, win-to-loss ratio, etc. - and Cowboys Zoners wouldn't be able to readily guess which belonged to Romo and which belonged to Dak.

Yet - over the past few years - we've seen a stunning turnaround. The exact same posters here who criticized Romo, "It's wins that count, not stats" - now suddenly defend Dak by touting his stats and also saying, "A quarterback can't win by himself, it's a team game." And the exact same posters who defended Romo by saying "a quarterback can't win by himself" suddenly now criticize Dak "it's wins that count, not stats."

What gives? It's a strange, bizarre, hypocrisy.

2016 playoff loss to GB.
 

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The exact same posters here who criticized Romo, "It's wins that count, not stats" - now suddenly defend Dak by touting his stats and also saying, "A quarterback can't win by himself, it's a team game." And the exact same posters who defended Romo by saying "a quarterback can't win by himself" suddenly now criticize Dak "it's wins that count, not stats."
Which posters have taken those opposite positions? Who exactly used to say "it's a team game" and now says "QB wins are what matters?" Nobody leaps to mind, but I don't always pay close attention to which individuals are making particular arguments, so I suppose it's possible this is true. But I doubt it.
 

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I love both, But I felt in 2016 had Romo got his job back late in the season ,we would've made a deep playoff run and possibly to the superbowl.
I believe that team was tailor made for Romo. I think inexperience early in that game from the qb hurt. I think Romo shreds that injury depleted secondary more than Dak did, plus with Zeke running tthe ball.
 

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I love both, But I felt in 2016 had Romo got his job back late in the season ,we would've made a deep playoff run and possibly to the superbowl.
I believe that team was tailor made for Romo. I think inexperience early in that game from the qb hurt. I think Romo shreds that injury depleted secondary more than Dak did, plus with Zeke running tthe ball.
Ditto. Dallas didn't have any decent quarterbacks between Aikman & Romo. Garrett had back to back decent quarterbacks in Romo & Prescott only to fail with them both using his conservative clipboard, um playbook.
 

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For me, with Romo I always felt like they could come back from anything. With Dak, I don't get that feeling. Romo felt dynamic, Dak feels like a bus driver. That's not to say I don't like Dak, I just think he's over-hyped.

I am looking forward to what MM can do with him though.
I agree but now watching the old Romo games on YouTube. We were never out of a game with Romo BUT what everyone forgot including myself until I rewatched was that the highs were higher but the lows were heartbreaking. I would give my right leg to see what a healthy Romo could have done with that 2016 team. Wow.
 

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I agree that Peak Romo was better than Dak has ever been...so far. But if you compare the first 4 years of Romo - 2003-2007, Dak has been better than Romo was over the first 4 years of his career. And Dak is improving. Despite claims that "either you're accurate or you're not," Dak has improved his accuracy over the first 4 years of his career. His downfield accuracy is a lot better than people give him credit for.

I do believe that Dak doesn't have the "bullseye" accuracy of Romo or Aikman. But you don't have to perfectly hit the bulleye. They pay receivers also, and Dak get's it into their catch radius just as often. He may not hit the X-ring, but he doesn't miss the target any more often than the other two. And hitting the target should be good enough in almost all cases. He puts his receivers in position to make plays, which is more than adequate.

If Dak keeps improving as he has been over his first 4 seasons, his trajectory will take him farther than Romo ever got. I think it is imminently reasonable for the Cowboys to consider him a bona fide franchise QB. He has the best rookie QB campaign in the 100 year history of the NFL. He regressed for a time in his 2nd campaign (which is hardly unusual), but has since been improving every season. Last year was his best ever year. And while it may seem like an excuse, people need to remember he couldn't even throw the ball in practice the week before the Eagles game last year. That's why adding Andy Dalton is such a good move by the Cowboys. If they had a decent back-up last season, then Dak would have been sitting in the deciding game against the Eagles, and the Cowboys (who were and still are the better team) would have had a better chance to reach post-season last year.

Bottom Line: Betting on Dak to continue improving and become one of the top QB's in the NFL is a reasonable bet for the front office.

I do still wonder if the 2016 team could have reached the Super Bowl if Romo had been allowed to return. But with injuries blowing up Romo for back-to-back seasons in 2015 & 2016, it isn't hard to recognize that Romo's time was done. Even if you believe Romo was better at the time (which I do), I don't see how you risk your season and blow up your teams confidence in the rookie by bringing Romo back. Romo was right. Dak earned the right to be the starter.

Romo sat for 3 seasons.
 

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Romo was slightly above average. Dak is average at best. Neither had a coaching staff worth a crap to work with. Romo took too many chances with the ball. Dak has many flaws. Most are not fixable.
I agree until the end. Why do you say most of his flaws are irreparable?
 

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I love both, But I felt in 2016 had Romo got his job back late in the season ,we would've made a deep playoff run and possibly to the superbowl.
I believe that team was tailor made for Romo. I think inexperience early in that game from the qb hurt. I think Romo shreds that injury depleted secondary more than Dak did, plus with Zeke running tthe ball.

agree.

but Marinelli wrecked that playoff game.
 
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