What makes someone love Dak while hating Romo, or vice versa?

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There's going to ve a magnitude of answers. Some view qb abilities differently, some take to liking the persona of one or the other, some like one or dislike the other for racial reasons, some have different perceptions of said player.

There's not going to be a clearcut answer. Most people probably don't hate one or the other.

I dislike Dak for his QB ability. Some will immediately "hate" this response because they don't see the same issues as I do. They will argue tooth and nail about stats, or make an argument I watch specific people online or on tv for validation when I do none of that. My opinion stems from what I see on gameday, nothing more, nothing less. Do I think Dak sucks, no. I also view many other QBs as overrated and the more I hear about Dak rejecting nice offers its only going to push me in the "dump Dak camp".

It also doesn't help when I see blame directed at so many others but its obvious Dak is protected. The hiring of MM gave me hope he'll provide a fair analysis of Dak and the rest of the team first hand, not based on what we've all seen on tv. However if they pay Dak this year then it destroys a chance for MM and the Cowboys to move on sooner.
So you don’t believe Dak could be a Trent Dilfer and average-us to the SB?
 

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I agree that Peak Romo was better than Dak has ever been...so far. But if you compare the first 4 years of Romo - 2003-2007, Dak has been better than Romo was over the first 4 years of his career. And Dak is improving. Despite claims that "either you're accurate or you're not," Dak has improved his accuracy over the first 4 years of his career. His downfield accuracy is a lot better than people give him credit for.

I do believe that Dak doesn't have the "bullseye" accuracy of Romo or Aikman. But you don't have to perfectly hit the bulleye. They pay receivers also, and Dak get's it into their catch radius just as often. He may not hit the X-ring, but he doesn't miss the target any more often than the other two. And hitting the target should be good enough in almost all cases. He puts his receivers in position to make plays, which is more than adequate.

If Dak keeps improving as he has been over his first 4 seasons, his trajectory will take him farther than Romo ever got. I think it is imminently reasonable for the Cowboys to consider him a bona fide franchise QB. He has the best rookie QB campaign in the 100 year history of the NFL. He regressed for a time in his 2nd campaign (which is hardly unusual), but has since been improving every season. Last year was his best ever year. And while it may seem like an excuse, people need to remember he couldn't even throw the ball in practice the week before the Eagles game last year. That's why adding Andy Dalton is such a good move by the Cowboys. If they had a decent back-up last season, then Dak would have been sitting in the deciding game against the Eagles, and the Cowboys (who were and still are the better team) would have had a better chance to reach post-season last year.

Bottom Line: Betting on Dak to continue improving and become one of the top QB's in the NFL is a reasonable bet for the front office.

I do still wonder if the 2016 team could have reached the Super Bowl if Romo had been allowed to return. But with injuries blowing up Romo for back-to-back seasons in 2015 & 2016, it isn't hard to recognize that Romo's time was done. Even if you believe Romo was better at the time (which I do), I don't see how you risk your season and blow up your teams confidence in the rookie by bringing Romo back. Romo was right. Dak earned the right to be the starter.
I don’t understand why we didn’t try to put Romo in. If he got hurt we have DAK ! as a back up. But then he could have thrown a playoff run ending pick 6. We forget about that Romo when we get nostalgic.
 

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I don’t understand why we didn’t try to put Romo in. If he got hurt we have DAK ! as a back up. But then he could have thrown a playoff run ending pick 6. We forget about that Romo when we get nostalgic.
If I'm a player and the new guy is part of winning, I'm rolling with the winning. It got to a point with Romo that it was only a "what if."
 

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Simply put, people would rather be "right" and/or express an opinion than be a fan.
This is probably the most accurate answer out there on this subject.

I've seen fans whine and complain after Dak has completed a 30 yard pass just because the pass wasn't perfectly thrown perfectly and the receiver had to slow up some for the catch. As if every Aaron Rodger or Tom Brady pass is picture perfect.
 

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I don’t understand why we didn’t try to put Romo in. If he got hurt we have DAK ! as a back up. But then he could have thrown a playoff run ending pick 6. We forget about that Romo when we get nostalgic.
I remember this more than one of his picks


and how many pick 6s does romo have to end a game? lol kind of ridiculous. There's only been 2 times I was truly mad at Romo, the Lions game where he throws picks to Carpenter (WTH) and this:


didn't help they ran for 250 against us. It was a bad pass and I hope he saw the defender, just didn't put air on the ball to get it over.
 

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If I'm a player and the new guy is part of winning, I'm rolling with the winning. It got to a point with Romo that it was only a "what if."
history has shown us rookie qbs aren't the best answer to a super bowl appearance/win. Chalk this up as one of the biggest blunders in NFL history
 

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Dak usually plays his best in 4th quarters. Amazing a guy with almost 5,000 yards is a bus driver.
Right. Romo has 25 career 4th quarter comebacks and 30 GW drives in 10 seasons as the starter. Dak already has 9 4th quarter comebacks and 15 GW drives in 4 seasons.

Both are very similar performers in the clutch. It's just personal agenda and/or perception that says one is tremendously better than the other in the 4th quarter.
 

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history has shown us rookie qbs aren't the best answer to a super bowl appearance/win. Chalk this up as one of the biggest blunders in NFL history
"What if Romo didn't get injured."
 

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For me, with Romo I always felt like they could come back from anything. With Dak, I don't get that feeling. Romo felt dynamic, Dak feels like a bus driver. That's not to say I don't like Dak, I just think he's over-hyped.

I am looking forward to what MM can do with him though.
Romo could play with the best of them. He put up monster numbers, but for whatever reason just never had that moment. (The Dez catch/no catch still pisses me off)
Dak at times seems pedestrian. But does seem to have that “it” factor Romo didn’t. But remains to be seen.
Love both players. Currently rooting for Dak. “ He’s my Qb”
 

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I don’t understand why we didn’t try to put Romo in. If he got hurt we have DAK ! as a back up. But then he could have thrown a playoff run ending pick 6. We forget about that Romo when we get nostalgic.
One reason fans forget about the bad side of Romo is that he stopped those blunders in the last few years of his career. At the early and midpoint of his career, it seemed like he tried to do too much on his own to win games and it hurt the team in many games. When Romo got a good running game to back him up and he didn’t try to force things, he was one of the best QBs in the league. Romo didn’t really lose many games with his late game mistakes, but the ones he lost was always very memorable.
 

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Note: I don't want this to be the 500th edition of "Dak sucks" or "Romo sucks." Let's keep this one different - let's stay on topic, focused, and not stray into the usual same-old same-old arguments we've had elsewhere for years.




There are many Cowboys fans who love both Romo and Dak. There are also a few who, for some reason, hate both Romo and Dak. Okay, that's fine - at least they're consistent.

What puzzles me is fans who love Romo while hating Dak, or love Dak while hating Romo.

Because, from a purely objective standpoint, both players were quite similar. They both have a 1:2 ratio of playoff wins to losses, for instance. They were usually good enough to put the Cowboys in playoff contention every single December, even if not getting them in outright. They both made plays with their arms and legs, they had times when they were let down by shoddy defense or a bad O-line, they were both players of good character, etc. They both had good touchdown-to-interception ratios. They are both Pro Bowl level quarterbacks that the Cowboys were lucky to stumble into (one was a 4th-round pick, one was undrafted.)


In fact, I bet I could get some stats for both players - passing stats, win-to-loss ratio, etc. - and Cowboys Zoners wouldn't be able to readily guess which belonged to Romo and which belonged to Dak.

Yet - over the past few years - we've seen a stunning turnaround. The exact same posters here who criticized Romo, "It's wins that count, not stats" - now suddenly defend Dak by touting his stats and also saying, "A quarterback can't win by himself, it's a team game." And the exact same posters who defended Romo by saying "a quarterback can't win by himself" suddenly now criticize Dak "it's wins that count, not stats."

What gives? It's a strange, bizarre, hypocrisy.
Easy answer.

Romo never asked for $45 mil 5th year and $130 mil guarranteed.

Savey.

Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer.

"Stupid is as stupid does"-Forrest Gumph
 
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