What to do with Prescott and this contract

Stash · May 20, 2020

MarcusRock said:
What's the incentive for signing on at a 5th year instead of 4 when others are getting north of $40M by then? This is why they're asking for that 5th year number if it's actually true. And what are the guarantees in your proposal?

The incentive is being paid at the highest average rate in the league right now. The average of Prescott's contract at $36 million a year would surpass the $35 million a year that Russell Wilson currently makes as the league's highest-paid quarterback.

Chuck 54 · May 20, 2020

I do not understand why fans care about this so much. If Dak pulls what Zeke pulled and skips real time and game preparation, then okay, I get being upset with him. But even if he loves a contract offer, why should he accept it now? He isn’t missing anything. He has until July 15 to sign the tag or a contract.

We would all love to see this over and done so we don’t have to read about it every day, but the fact remains that we will still have a year of fans arguing about the contract even after it is signed. We really shouldn’t even care when this happens.

Hawkeye0202 · May 20, 2020

I honestly think Stephen and Jerry are fine with the 4-year deal but this is Stephen waiting for the last deadline to see if Dak breaks. I'm 100% confident this gets signed before July 15. Waaay to much money AND uncontrollable 2021 factors to gamble.

Swagger · May 20, 2020

John813 said:
JMO, I don't think he's happy with it. There were reports he would holdout of offseason events until he got a long term deal, but no hard details on what offseason events those were. It would be risky for him to holdout of TC, due to a slow season start or bad season would hurt a long term deal value.

Unless he is delusional he won't hold out now that Dalton is the backup. Dalton would ball out in this offense - Prescott will be old news.

MikeB80 · May 20, 2020

I can not believe how much people care about Dak's contract.

I am not a big fan of the guy and think he has serious flaws but I hope he gets every penny he can. I have zero problem with him asking for the 45 million in the fifth year. It will probably be what the franchise number will be at that time anyway and most likely will be forgotten about when they extend him after the third year if he is playing well.

Everything about this organization should be about can they finally build a good defense. The entire run of Garrett years they could not put together a good defense to save their lives. They had lousy coordinators, drafted poorly and got repeated poor results costing this organization at a real chance at winning something in january and february.

They should be spending every penny they can to get better on defense. The offense will be fine. Now it even has a backup that imo could put the exact results Dak has accomplished in this offense if the line is healthy. It's all about the defense.

natedoug · May 20, 2020

It all depends on the guaranteed money and how the deal is structured. Contract could be structured to pay most of the guaranteed money in years 1-3... if so, the team could cut Dak at the end of year 4 with minimal impact to the cap. Happens all the time to players

Sandyf · May 20, 2020

Another Dak thread, anyone every think what would happen if Dak just signs the franchise tag and then he has a great season and for the fun of it say Dallas and Kansas City make it to the Super Bowl. Kansas City has said they probably won't negotiate a contract with Mahomes until after the 2020 season. So in the Super Bowl both teams ball out, goes into overtime and hopefully Dallas comes out on top.

Could you imagine what the agents for both Dak and Mahomes would be asking in money. Forget $35 million a year, that would be chump change and if you don't believe both would have the upper hand, then you don't know business. In a case like that, the starting point for both would be around $40 to $45 million a year and willing to bet no more than a 4 year deal.

Dallas is better off getting Dak signed and soon. Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead.

Diehardblues · May 20, 2020

How much of a distraction is this on the team if we don’t get a deal done and Dak plays on the Franchise Tag? Assuming he signs it.

Diehardblues · May 20, 2020

Have we even considered the possibility of Dak holding out? I’d argue the Cowboys have and why they signed Andy.

Denim Chicken · May 20, 2020

Diehardblues said:
Have we even considered the possibility of Dak holding out?

You can't hold out if you're not signed.

MikeB80 · May 20, 2020

Diehardblues said:
How much of a distraction is this on the team if we don’t get a deal done and Dak plays on the Franchise Tag? Assuming he signs it.

this season is already all set for a year of distractions away from the actual field...just the way jerry likes it.

If there is a football season Aldon Smith is going to be all the distraction this organization needs. Throwing a Dak holdout/non signing/ franchise tag in there would just be icing on the cake for the owners who love to have constant turmoil.

Diehardblues · May 20, 2020

MikeB80 said:
this season is already all set for a year of distractions away from the actual field...just the way jerry likes it.

If there is a football season Aldon Smith is going to be all the distraction this organization needs. Throwing a Dak holdout/non signing/ franchise tag in there would just be icing on the cake for the owners who love to have constant turmoil.

So, what are the effects of a Dak holdout ?

Brax · May 20, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
There IS no doubt of his worth. So your suggestion is to let ANOTHER year go by with all these weapons with a REAL HC and try to sign him after?

A real HC has yet to be proven, as for worth that is in the eye of the evaluator. You get a full look on the tag with all the weapons, no SB no sign.

Diehardblues · May 20, 2020

Denim Chicken said:
You can't hold out if you're not signed.

How would you describe if he doesn’t sign if not a holdout ? Any difference in the effects?

MikeB80 · May 20, 2020

Diehardblues said:
So, what are the effects of a Dak holdout ?

well if he doesn't sign his franchise tender he won't play football so that is not going to happen. If does end up playing on the franchise tag it will be a constant story line. Every game, every quarter, every throw will be the reason he should have been signed or should not have been signed.

Then you throw in the fact that Dalton is more than capable of running the offense here especially if the line is very good. If the running game is at the 16 or 18 level and Dalton had to play he would imo replicate anything Dak has done. Dalton will never see the field though so it will not matter but the franchise tag will be a constant source of discussion.

Diehardblues · May 20, 2020

Brax said:
A real HC has yet to be proven, as for worth that is in the eye of the evaluator. You get a full look on the tag with all the weapons, no SB no sign.

He’s a proven HC with the Packers. His worth here hasn’t been measured yet but we can still arguably describe him as a proven winner coming in.

kevm3 · May 20, 2020

What player isn't about the money? Is Patrick Mahomes going to accept 28 million to keep the team together? We had 4 years of Dak on an extremely cheap rookie contract to be able to 'take advantage of the window' and did nothing with it.

I fail to understand why this team is so adamant on signing him for 5 years. If he wants a premium for the 5th year, just sign him for 4 and be done with it.

Diehardblues · May 20, 2020

MikeB80 said:
well if he doesn't sign his franchise tender he won't play football so that is not going to happen. If does end up playing on the franchise tag it will be a constant story line. Every game, every quarter, every throw will be the reason he should have been signed or should not have been signed.

Then you throw in the fact that Dalton is more than capable of running the offense here especially if the line is very good. If the running game is at the 16 or 18 level and Dalton had to play he would imo replicate anything Dak has done. Dalton will never see the field though so it will not matter but the franchise tag will be a constant source of discussion.

I agree his playing on the Tag would be a constant distraction. And I expect him to sign the Tag.

I’m curious . Is there any history of players not signing the Tag?

Stash · May 20, 2020

kevm3 said:
What player isn't about the money? Is Patrick Mahomes going to accept 28 million to keep the team together? We had 4 years of Dak on an extremely cheap rookie contract to be able to 'take advantage of the window' and did nothing with it.

I fail to understand why this team is so adamant on signing him for 5 years. If he wants a premium for the 5th year, just sign him for 4 and be done with it.

I think it's Stephen Jones looking for any area at this point that he can consider a 'win'. He needs somewhere he can point to in order to say "see Daddy, I made them compromise!"

Because the fact is, at this point, Stephen has lost in every area of the recent negotiations he's made. First with Lawrence and then Elliott, and now with Dak too.

They heard his ridiculous first proposal and told him to go pound sand. And now a year later, the cost has gone from $25 million a year to $35 million a year - and then some.

The Jones boys have mishandled these negotiations - badly, and everything has gone the way that Prescott and his camp have hoped they would. He's stayed healthy and productive, and the quarterback market continues to rise. And there's a cap jump on the horizon and he and the agent are looking ahead to that next bite at the apple. Everything is working in their favor while the Cowboys choose to exert none of the leverage or opportunities they may have had.

rags747 · May 20, 2020

I’m fine with 4 years, if he can’t get it done by year 3 then blow it all up and find a new stud QB in the draft.

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