What to do with Prescott and this contract

MarcusRock

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The incentive is being paid at the highest average rate in the league right now. The average of Prescott's contract at $36 million a year would surpass the $35 million a year that Russell Wilson currently makes as the league's highest-paid quarterback.

He should get that now anyway given how things work in the QB market. The whole 4/5 year thing is about re-upping after the new TV deals, right? $36M/yr. will be pittance then. There's no incentive to lock in at that rate for 5 years unless the guarantees are groundbreaking as well, which is why I asked. The rumored $105M guarantee on 5 years was a slap in the face considering Goff got more than that on a 4 year extension.
 

CowboyRoy

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Yes . 3 QB’s out of 32 teams and how many years in Cap era. I’d describe those as rare examples not the norm.

Nope...…...you said...….."nobody" so I showed you 3 quick examples to prove your dumb theory dead wrong.

I also never said it was the norm...…..I said "smart teams". I would rather be a smart team then run into a desperate situation.
 

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Just go with the 4-year deal and be done with it.

If the Jones’ keep messing around with this style of “wait until the deadline” negotiations, then Watson and Mahommes will set and reset the QB market, and essentially blow-up Dak’s current price. At that point, there’s no choice but to play him on the tag.

We should’ve signed him last year before Zeke. Shoot, should’ve signed before Goff and Wentz. Probably could’ve gotten a lower deal than they got.

*whispers*

we shouldn't have signed Zeke
 

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Nope...…...you said...….."nobody" so I showed you 3 quick examples to prove your dumb theory dead wrong.

I also never said it was the norm...…..I said "smart teams". I would rather be a smart team then run into a desperate situation.
Reread . I didn’t use “ nobody”. That must have been someone else. I said “ most”.

Here’s my post :

Unfortunately it doesn’t make sense any longer. The Cap simply doesn’t allow most teams to sit a QB 2 or 3 years. It’s a different league now in that respect.
 
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Dalton can run this offense.
Adjust Daltons contract ( he has 3 mil plus playing time incentives up to 7 mil now), 1 yr. deal.
adjust to -
3 mil now plus playing time incentives, total of 15 mil.
Add a second year 25 mil to be fully guaranteed at the start of the league next year.
2 year deal 40 mil.....might entice him to sign.
If Dak signs and plays, Daltons gets cut next year.
now
If Dak doesn't want to sign or doesn't play this year due to holdout, we have Dalton for 2 years @ reasonable price.
(2 yr. @ 40 mil)
Tell Dak's team if they don't like our offer then they have permission to seek a trade.

We either have Dak long term w/ Dalton for 1 yr.
or
Daks traded and Dalton for 2yrs. w/ sometime to resign him or groom another young prospect.
 

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Regardless of name calling , McCarthy had championship caliber success there.

If we can’t agree to call that proven success then where do we begin?
No intent to name call, I will give him a chance, my fear is it’s JG 2.0
 

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Dak has proven zero?

Again you show a complete lack of QB analysis abilities. Like I said...……...you actually have to see a QB win a SB to think he is good.

Dak doesn't need excuses. Excuses for what? Wait...…...are we back to "Dak needs to win a SB"?

How about play well enough to beat the Eagles in the most important game of the season? Or lead a game winning drive against the Jets or Patriots or New Orleans? Win any one of those games and they’re probably division champs and the defense did plenty in each of those matchups to get the job done.

Most of us on here realize that the QB is not solely responsible for a team’s success or failure but if you’re going to be paid the amount Dak is asking for you are going to be criticized more then other players and rightfully so. You can’t be the highest paid player and continually deflect blame.

The owners can put a stop to the ridiculous money QBs are demanding whenever they wish. You see it starting already.

Let’s hope Jerry Jones puts a line in the sand. He should’ve done it with Zeke let’s see if he had the backbone to do it now.
 

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Dak has proven zero?

Again you show a complete lack of QB analysis abilities. Like I said...……...you actually have to see a QB win a SB to think he is good.

Dak doesn't need excuses. Excuses for what? Wait...…...are we back to "Dak needs to win a SB"?

What about Zeke, does he need to win a SB or just a rushing title here and there?
Did you miss doesn’t have to win a SB??? As for Zeke Jerry understood no Zeke - Dak folds.
 

CowboyRoy

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Reread . I didn’t use “ nobody”. That must have been someone else. I said “ most”.

Here’s my post :

Unfortunately it doesn’t make sense any longer. The Cap simply doesn’t allow most teams to sit a QB 2 or 3 years. It’s a different league now in that respect.

My God!!!! You cant even remember what you say an hour ago.

HERE is YOUR post:

Always think you have to belittle people to make your point. Buzz off if you can’t be more cordial. Tough internet bully.

Of course no one sits a QB in Cap era 2 or 3 years.
 

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As crazy as it sounds, 45mil in 2024 won't be farfetched for salary for a QB the way the league is growing+TV contract battles/deal in 2022.

Sucks we got under 2 months till the hard deadline for the extension comes and goes. With this FO, they'll wait till 3:59pm on the 15th to come to an agreement.

It is possible that all this COVID-19 think can change the market rules... who knows
 

CowboyRoy

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How about play well enough to beat the Eagles in the most important game of the season? Or lead a game winning drive against the Jets or Patriots or New Orleans? Win any one of those games and they’re probably division champs and the defense did plenty in each of those matchups to get the job done.

Most of us on here realize that the QB is not solely responsible for a team’s success or failure but if you’re going to be paid the amount Dak is asking for you are going to be criticized more then other players and rightfully so. You can’t be the highest paid player and continually deflect blame.

The owners can put a stop to the ridiculous money QBs are demanding whenever they wish. You see it starting already.

Let’s hope Jerry Jones puts a line in the sand. He should’ve done it with Zeke let’s see if he had the backbone to do it now.

Cherry picking, nothing more. Any of those games could have been won by any number or players on both sides of the team. Dak has consistently been clutch over his 4 years. IN fact, he leads the NFL in last drive comeback wins since he has entered the NFL.

So your cherry picking proves nothing other than the fact that nobody showed up that game.
 

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Or was it the other way around? I am hopeful MM is the real deal but wonder if he is just another JG.

Again, you show no ability whatsoever to analyze.

Just look at the offseason so far. Does it seem like a Garrett offseason?

DT, safety, BPA, backup QB, kicker, ect….ect………….
 

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First off, just draft a QB and start grooming him? If only it were that easy. When do you draft the qb? How long does a qb need to be groomed? When is the last time that a stud QB(a current starting top qb) starting qb was drafted and "Groomed" from the bench? You arent getting a Danny White that sits on the bench.Steve Young will never again be sitting behind a Joe Montana and waiting his turn. Watson? not groomed. Mahomes? I guess that 1 season you could call "Grooming,". It just isnt easy to do, if it were, everyone would have their next starting qb sitting on the roster right now. So for me, that isnt realistic.

Honest opinion, I would pull the tag.... but Id wait till July to do it. Id have NO PROBLEM putting Dalton out there as our starter this year, and sign him to a 3 or 4 year extension for reasonable money. You telling me that Dalton couldnt do what Foles did? The rams damn near won a SB with Goff. Could Dalton do what Goff did? If Dak were Drew Brees, Mahomes, Rodgers... Id say hell yea, give him that 45 million in year 5 and be done with it. But the fact we have daily discussions about how good Dak is means he is NOT THAT MAN.

How many people would be debating about the greatness of Brees? Rodgers? Mahomes? Brady? Pretty much it would be universal agreement that those guys are franchise guys that we would all be ecstatic to have. But there is a huge rift in this forum amongst Cowboys fans on how good he is...to me, that means he aint worth that kind of money.

Have we ever seen a QB, or any player for that matter try to do this? Try to say, well, in 5 years contracts will be at point X, so I want to have that in my current deal, 5 years early?

Hey, Today we are putting our rental house on the market. Listing price is 360k. I think I will change that to 400k and tell the buyer that in 5 years the house will be worth that much, so I want that price today..... ugh...
great post
 

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Cherry picking, nothing more. Any of those games could have been won by any number or players on both sides of the team. Dak has consistently been clutch over his 4 years. IN fact, he leads the NFL in last drive comeback wins since he has entered the NFL.

So your cherry picking proves nothing other than the fact that nobody showed up that game.

If Dak holds equal responsibility to any other player on offense than why pay him more? Why are QBs paid more than any other position if their responsibility isn’t any greater then other players?

Romo had the same issue. Highest rated QB in the 4th quarter and all that. In the end it meant nothing and this fan base was quick to kick him to the curb at the first opportunity.

The minute Dak signs this deal he will be the offense. There will be no more excuses. Any offensive woes will be thrown at his feet and rightfully so because you don’t get a massive raise without a massive increase in responsibility.

I understand your view on Dak and I respect it but I’ll not get behind making him the highest paid QB. Never.
 

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I have always been a proponent of. I-N-C-E-N-T-I-V-E In fact as a child I always got my best grades whenever daddy bought a new belt.
 

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Dak deserves a nice contract, Since he’s an excellent player and very durable.

But he is taking a risk by holding out of virtual OTA’s. If he holds out of training camp he is making an even bigger mistake. Dalton, although not as good as Dak, is no slouch and might be easier to work with at this point.

 

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What ever you say I appreciate the dumb replies, should of known better
 
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