“Dis or Dak” - Colin Cowherd chooses which QB’s he’d take over Dak

DFWJC · May 23, 2020

Irvin88_4life said:
Brady, Ben, Rodgers and Brees aren't in tier 1 anymore.

Not only that but if you have Watson in tier 1 then Dak is tier 1 as well. Otherwise Watson is in tier 2 with Dak.

Nonsense

Proof · May 23, 2020

AmariChill said:
If you don’t wanna watch the video, here are the QB’s he picked over Dak when given the choices:

Jimmy G
Jared Goff
Wentz
Russell Wilson
Lamar Jackson
Sam Darnold
Kirk Cousins
Josh Allen
Patrick Mahomes
Matt Ryan
Matthew Stafford

QB’s he selected DAK over:
Derek Carr
Baker Mayfield
Ryan Tannehill
Teddy Bridgewater (he said this one was narrow)
Andy Dalton

According to Colin, Dak is not in the top 10. Thoughts?

*Edit: as long as it’s not Monday night, he’d take Kirk over Dak. If it’s Monday Night, I guess Dak takes the cake.

I appreciate anyone who puts their name against an actual list, but Goff, Cousins, Allen and Darnold are indefensible.

Wentz is obviously debatable so I’ll allow it even though I oppose vehemently.

Proof · May 23, 2020

black label said:
brady was so good man, terrible front office decision. could have got rid of this poison and bought time for a good qb

You realize Brady would have specifically wanted to come here right? Which there have been no accounts was ever an option. And then we’d have to draft our future qb between 28-32 one of those years if he has the success you envision.

kskboys · May 23, 2020

Proof said:
You realize Brady would have specifically wanted to come here right? Which there have been no accounts was ever an option. And then we’d have to draft our future qb between 28-32 one of those years if he has the success you envision.

Pining for Brady has never made sense.

PJTHEDOORS · May 23, 2020

ghst187 said:
Jimmy G- no way I’m taking him over Dak
Jared Goff- no way
Wentz- nope
Russell Wilson, yes
Lamar Jackson, nope, not if we want to pass down the field a lot
Sam Darnold- have to joking
Kirk Cousins- have to be joking, will NEVER win anything
Josh Allen- this is not serious
Patrick Mahomes- duh
Matt Ryan- good QB, will never win anything
Matthew Stafford- decent QB, will never win anything

so some of those guys he picked are probably better pure throwers than Dak. Dak isn’t a great pure thrower. But he is a leader, a scrapper, and a great runner, and a good enough thrower. I feel like the options to pick up a key first down late in a game with Dak are much wider than most. Stafford, Cousins, Goff, Jimmy G., Ryan....if the coverage is great they are throwing it away, punt. Or in Cousins case, an INT. Dak can get a lot with his legs and/or buy time to lengthen the play and enable WRs to get open.
Feel like in these debates this gets forgotten. It’s oftentimes a game changer, despite folks (ironically) putting Lamar Jackson over Dak. Dak isn’t the best QB in the league but he’s in the upper third and he’s plenty good enough to win with. I have a difficult time believing people would take a lot of those guys above over Dak in a hard fought, must win game if they really had to make that choice.

I agree with your QB choices.

kskboys · May 23, 2020

DFWJC said:
Clarify.
Do you disagree that Jackson isn't much fast than Kaepernick?
Or that being faster than everybody vs mostly only the d lineman doesn't make a difference?

I disagree that there is much difference between the two.

Flamma · May 23, 2020

I stopped watching after the 2nd choice. Jared Goff? Really?

DFWJC · May 23, 2020

Flamma said:
I stopped watching after the 2nd choice. Jared Goff? Really?

Yeah.
No matter what the list is, pretty much all of us will have player or two we think is higher or lower unless we are blind homers or haters. Just human nature and opinion.

I know that Dak was certainly better than Goff last year.
I see the upside for a guy like Allen. Though he too wasn't better than Dak last year., I can see why some might think he could be eventually. He's more physically gifted, but not yet better. And he has almost no weapons.
Not so sure what Goff's excuse would be.
As for Garopollo, I'm giving him this year to be fair, since last year he was coming off an entire season from an ACL

Jdenzo · May 23, 2020

Irvin88_4life said:
Brady, Ben, Rodgers and Brees aren't in tier 1 anymore.

Not only that but if you have Watson in tier 1 then Dak is tier 1 as well. Otherwise Watson is in tier 2 with Dak.

Agreed

kskboys · May 23, 2020

DFWJC said:
Yeah.
No matter what the list is, pretty much all of us will have player or two we think is higher or lower unless we are blind homers or haters. Just human nature and opinion.

I know that Dak was certainly better than Goff last year.
I see the upside for a guy like Allen. Though he too wasn't better than Dak last year., I can see why some might think he could be eventually. He's more physically gifted, but not yet better. And he has almost no weapons.
Not so sure what Goff's excuse would be.
As for Garopollo, I'm giving him this year to be fair, since last year he was coming off an entire season from an ACL

Allen is more inaccurate than Dak by a wide margin. Not sure how he's more talented.

Kwyn · May 23, 2020

AmariChill said:
If you don’t wanna watch the video, here are the QB’s he picked over Dak when given the choices:

Jimmy G
Jared Goff
Wentz
Russell Wilson
Lamar Jackson
Sam Darnold
Kirk Cousins
Josh Allen
Patrick Mahomes
Matt Ryan
Matthew Stafford

QB’s he selected DAK over:
Derek Carr
Baker Mayfield
Ryan Tannehill
Teddy Bridgewater (he said this one was narrow)
Andy Dalton

According to Colin, Dak is not in the top 10. Thoughts?

*Edit: as long as it’s not Monday night, he’d take Kirk over Dak. If it’s Monday Night, I guess Dak takes the cake.

The guy is just clickbait. He spouts off about the a Cowboys, and usually Dak, every couple of days. He doesn’t believe any of his own opibionsX so why should we?
Mi take that back, they aren’t even opinions.

They are manufactured sound bytes intended to create controversy

It’s all fake.

It’s like Stephen A.

DFWJC · May 23, 2020

Proof said:
I appreciate anyone who puts their name against an actual list, but Goff, Cousins, Allen and Darnold are indefensible.

Wentz is obviously debatable so I’ll allow it even though I oppose vehemently.

I find it interesting that you think Cousins is so far off that it's indefensible?
26 Tds, only 6 ints and a 107 QB rating was very good by any standards.
Plus his team did better than ours overall (won a playoff game vs no playoffs at all) and beat us at our place as well.
No problem if you like Dak better, but most would say its at least close.

kskboys · May 23, 2020

DFWJC said:
I find it interesting that you think Cousins is so far off that it's indefensible?
26 Tds, only 6 ints and a 107 QB rating was very good by any standards.
Plus his team did better than ours overall (won a playoff game vs no playoffs at all) and beat us at our place as well.
No problem if you like Dak better, but most would say its at least close.

I think it's very close, and that they are on the same level at present. Cousins might even get the nod, but it's really too close to call.

NeonNinja · May 23, 2020

I’m not the biggest Dak fan but this list is ridiculous and he’s using it for attention and succeeding unfortunately.

DFWJC · May 23, 2020

kskboys said:
Allen is more inaccurate than Dak by a wide margin. Not sure how he's more talented.

Hey, right now, I would take Dak too, but few if any QBs in the league have the raw skills that Allen has.
Much bigger, slightly faster, WAY better arm....just more talented. If you want to say Dak is more accurate, that's fine. So is Kellen Moore.
Dak also has a way better offense around him.

Zekeats · May 23, 2020

ghst187 said:
Jimmy G- no way I’m taking him over Dak
Jared Goff- no way
Wentz- nope
Russell Wilson, yes
Lamar Jackson, nope, not if we want to pass down the field a lot
Sam Darnold- have to joking
Kirk Cousins- have to be joking, will NEVER win anything
Josh Allen- this is not serious
Patrick Mahomes- duh
Matt Ryan- good QB, will never win anything
Matthew Stafford- decent QB, will never win anything

so some of those guys he picked are probably better pure throwers than Dak. Dak isn’t a great pure thrower. But he is a leader, a scrapper, and a great runner, and a good enough thrower. I feel like the options to pick up a key first down late in a game with Dak are much wider than most. Stafford, Cousins, Goff, Jimmy G., Ryan....if the coverage is great they are throwing it away, punt. Or in Cousins case, an INT. Dak can get a lot with his legs and/or buy time to lengthen the play and enable WRs to get open.
Feel like in these debates this gets forgotten. It’s oftentimes a game changer, despite folks (ironically) putting Lamar Jackson over Dak. Dak isn’t the best QB in the league but he’s in the upper third and he’s plenty good enough to win with. I have a difficult time believing people would take a lot of those guys above over Dak in a hard fought, must win game if they really had to make that choice.

Jared Goff- no way Goff beat him in playoffs
Wentz- nope Wentz beat him one game elimination last year
Russell Wilson, yes
Lamar Jackson, nope, not if we want to pass down the field a lot
Sam Darnold- have to joking The joker beat him last year
Kirk Cousins- have to be joking, will NEVER win anything Another Joker that beat him
Josh Allen- this is not serious He seriously beat him last year
Patrick Mahomes- duh
Matt Ryan- good QB, will never win anything
Matthew Stafford- decent QB, will never win anything

DFWJC · May 23, 2020

kskboys said:
I think it's very close, and that they are on the same level at present. Cousins might even get the nod, but it's really too close to call.

That's fair. Either Dak or Kirk, I wouldn't put up an argument. Both good QBs

Ranched · May 23, 2020

YAWN! Could care less about anything this media overpaid talking head has to say. The very worst thing about Cowherd is his arrogance. And he uses it for attention.

He speaks as if he’s the greatest sports thinker of all time, when in reality he is simply a trash talk show host.

Proof · May 23, 2020

DFWJC said:
I find it interesting that you think Cousins is so far off that it's indefensible?
26 Tds, only 6 ints and a 107 QB rating was very good by any standards.
Plus his team did better than ours overall (won a playoff game vs no playoffs at all) and beat us at our place as well.
No problem if you like Dak better, but most would say its at least close

cousins is an enigma because by stats he certainly cuts the mustard, he just inspires zero confidence in me whatsoever. And that’s with Diggs and Theilen.

he threw for 3600 yards last year to Daks nearly 5k. 26 TD’s to Dak’s 30

And I’m the matchup you cited, Kirk three for 220 yds and 2 tds to Daks 397 and 3 tds.

yeah, personally, I think it’s indefensible.[/QUOTE]

Proof · May 23, 2020

DFWJC said:
I find it interesting that you think Cousins is so far off that it's indefensible?
26 Tds, only 6 ints and a 107 QB rating was very good by any standards.
Plus his team did better than ours overall (won a playoff game vs no playoffs at all) and beat us at our place as well.
No problem if you like Dak better, but most would say its at least close.

I don’t think most would say it’s close at all. Kirk is likely the one qb more lambasted than Dak

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