Opinion: Prescott is going to show up on time

leeblair · May 25, 2020

PAPPYDOG said:
Prescott is going to show up as we're the only NFL team willing to pay him 30 million for 1 season.

Correction:
"we're the only team dumb enough to pay him 30 million for 1 season."

Section446 · May 25, 2020

Nobody is stupid enough to meet his demands, we're his only choice.

GMO415 · May 25, 2020

He's not turning down $30 million. That's $3400 an hour all year long.

CouchCoach · May 25, 2020

12+88=7 said:
Wasn't the first inkling of this was when he said he wouldn't participate in the virtual offseason.

I have been tell all that don't listen to words, look at their actions. Actions say holding out is a possibility.

Technically, he's not under a contract so he's not really holding out.

I don't think not participating in the virtual offseason is anything to go on. He's doing exactly what any smart player does, following his agent's lead. He went to CAA for a reason.

Anything you hear or see about him possibly being a no show is nothing more than BS to start a debate. They're running out of material.

kskboys · May 25, 2020

the_h0wey said:
Not sure how one would determine that. Multiple outlets had Dak as the number one free agent this offseason. You don't think a top ten QB would get $30 million plus on the open market or are you just stupid?

The 2nd thingie.

CouchCoach · May 25, 2020

PAPPYDOG said:
Only the "Dak-Blind" don't or won't accept the fact that only our fool of a GM (Goes by the name of Jones) will pay this inept QB 30 million for 1 season.

He's, most likely, offering more than 30M a year for a 5 year extension.

You, and some others, don't like him at any price so your value of him is skewed. I think there are teams that would pay him 30M for one season because I didn't think any team would pay Cousins 28M but they did.

PAPPY, you make one large mistake in your thinking. You think the Joneses are the only stupid people running NFL teams.

Super_Kazuya · May 25, 2020

I never thought it made sense for him to not show up because he would be sabotaging himself under a new coach and jeopardizing his chances of having a good season... which still might be needed if he chooses to play under the tag. Once they signed Dalton, that pretty much eliminated that option. He’ll be there at the very least by game one.
Cousins I believe was happy to show up to all of the off-season activities both years. Part of betting on yourself is continuing to play well.

12+88=7 · May 25, 2020

CouchCoach said:
Technically, he's not under a contract so he's not really holding out.

I don't think not participating in the virtual offseason is anything to go on. He's doing exactly what any smart player does, following his agent's lead. He went to CAA for a reason.

Anything you hear or see about him possibly being a no show is nothing more than BS to start a debate. They're running out of material.

You just can't poo poo it and call it BS.

There is the possibility that a holdout can occur. Believing that it cannot happen is not being completely truthful with yourself.

MarcusRock · May 25, 2020

CouchCoach said:
Just my opinion, I don't see anyway those companies continue with him not showing up for work for the Cowboys when the only reason he got those endorsements is because he plays for the Cowboys. He would no longer be considered the DC QB.

I do not underestimate the effects of social media on companies when people lash out at them. They would at least shelve any ads with him in them because under the circumstances with America's Team, new HC and offense and using a 1st on another weapon for him, Prescott would be the most despised pro athlete in America. The Joneses cannot and will not let it go that far unless they're willing to move on.

Marcus, it's never happened for a very good reason. The QB can't hold out without a lot of image damage, other players can do it but not the QB.

Even if he's holding out he's still connected to the team and thus the DC QB until he leaves for another team so he'd be the same in advertisers' eyes whether this or suffering a season-ending injury Week 1.

I think any other assessment is high drama forecasting at the very least. If not agreeing to terms on worth makes one the most despised athlete in America then people need lives. Advertisers would simply wait out fan fickleness (drama-queening to the lay person). And no one outside of Dallas would care, honestly. Is Leveon Bell roundly booed anywhere he goes? Again, no one outside of Pittsburgh cares and it's mostly forgotten now, isn't it? Advertisers know those metrics.

DallasEast · May 25, 2020

visionary said:
this is true but not signing is not an option for Prescott

McCarthy and Stephen ensured that by signing Dalton

Dalton won’t win us a SB but he is a competent NFL QB and you bet Prescott will not want him starting and winning a few games early (which is likely to happen) as that will truly bring down Dak’s leverage

Dak will sign the tender and take his chances

I pretty much agree Dalton's signing forces Prescott's hand. However, I am also someone who assumed incorrectly Jones and Prescott would settle on a new contract before the beginning of last season.

Today is May 25. July 15 is only 51 days away. Prescott is taking the contract negotiations down to the wire. To me, Prescott is demonstrating a level of self-determination that *might* extend past the new contract deadline and possibly influence what seems like (again for me) the logical decision of signing the franchise tender before the 2020 season.

cern · May 25, 2020

It will likely be settled so that he misses no time.. it's in everyone's best interests.

CouchCoach · May 25, 2020

12+88=7 said:
You just can't poo poo it and call it BS.

There is the possibility that a holdout can occur. Believing that it cannot happen is not being completely truthful with yourself.

I am completely truthful with myself, he will show up. It is pure speculation and more what some would like to see because they don't like him. It is unadulterated BS.

Why do you think no QB has ever been a no show? Because they realize they are the cog in the wheel and everything radiates from them. It would be careercide for any QB to no show with 31.4M guaranteed for 1 year. That's 1M to the agent, think he's going to have his client sit out?

The universe of possible employers isn't 31 other teams. Take away those that have their QB. Take away this that aren't really sure yet but he hasn't proven he's better than what they might have. Now, take away those owners that don't want a player stupid enough not to play for the highest salary in 2020. What are you left with? Prescott would go the way of Kaepernick, for a different reason.

CouchCoach · May 25, 2020

MarcusRock said:
Even if he's holding out he's still connected to the team and thus the DC QB until he leaves for another team so he'd be the same in advertisers' eyes whether this or suffering a season-ending injury Week 1.

I think any other assessment is high drama forecasting at the very least. If not agreeing to terms on worth makes one the most despised athlete in America then people need lives. Advertisers would simply wait out fan fickleness (drama-queening to the lay person). And no one outside of Dallas would care, honestly. Is Leveon Bell roundly booed anywhere he goes? Again, no one outside of Pittsburgh cares and it's mostly forgotten now, isn't it? Advertisers know those metrics.

What is Bell endorsing? That's my point, not fan booing.

It is different for a QB. They get all the glory and most agree the longevity of a RB is fractional to a QB. And he didn't play QB for the Dallas Cowboys. I think you are underplaying the effect of the QB1 of the DC being a no show and the reaction of the fans.

Do you think Prescott and his agent think Prescott would have anything close to this endorsement level were he not the DC QB? He got that because he's the QB of America's Team, turn his back on them and they'll drop him like a bad habit. Do you think anyone can relate to a guy sitting out with 31.4M sitting there and all he has to do is show up?

Bell thought he was being undervalued because of his contribution to the offense and what they game Brown. O could actually see his point. If Prescott were to no show? Nope, don't see that point at all. And neither would his sponsors. Especially when Cowboys fans are calling for a boycott of his sponsors and don't think they wouldn't. Prescott would be a headache they don't need and he and his agent know that.

Vtwin · May 25, 2020

CouchCoach said:
Technically, he's not under a contract so he's not really holding out.

I don't think not participating in the virtual offseason is anything to go on. He's doing exactly what any smart player does, following his agent's lead. He went to CAA for a reason.

Anything you hear or see about him possibly being a no show is nothing more than BS to start a debate. They're running out of material.

Great example of the overrated leadership crown he has been given.

Explain how not participating either helps his personal cause or that of the team goals. At the end of the day he is either going to sign a contract, play under the tag or sit out. His taking the opportunity to use the virtual off season to help himself and the team he "leads" to get up to speed with new coaches and systems is not going to affect any of those three potential outcomes. All three of those options will still be available on July 14 regardless of if he sulks and refuses to participate or he decides to put some pants on and get after it with his teammates.

Dak has a masters in "Workforce Leadership". In other words he has learned the buzz words and phrases. I've worked around plenty of clowns who could talk the talk but never walked the walked and it showed.

Great leaders don't have the team quit around them. Great leaders don't have arguably the best players on their offense tapping out in critical moments of critical games. The one thing you can say about Garrett is the players played for him. They fought hard right to the end in 2015. They fought hard in 2016 when faced with the hopelessness of starting what was a very promising season with a rookie, third string QB. Strangely, things declined from there culminating with last season's fiasco.

Put your pants on and get to work Dak. It's the best thing for you, the team and the fans.

CouchCoach · May 25, 2020

Vtwin said:
Great example of the overrated leadership crown he has been given.

Explain how not participating either helps his personal cause or that of the team goals. At the end of the day he is either going to sign a contract, play under the tag or sit out. His taking the opportunity to use the virtual off season to help himself and the team he "leads" to get up to speed with new coaches and systems is not going to affect any of those three potential outcomes. All three of those options will still be available on July 14 regardless of if he sulks and refuses to participate or he decides to put some pants on and get after it with his teammates.

Dak has a masters in "Workforce Leadership". In other words he has learned the buzz words and phrases. I've worked around plenty of clowns who could talk the talk but never walked the walked and it showed.

Great leaders don't have the team quit around them. Great leaders don't have arguably the best players on their offense tapping out in critical moments of critical games. The one thing you can say about Garrett is the players played for him. They fought hard right to the end in 2015. They fought hard in 2016 when faced with the hopelessness of starting what was a very promising season with a rookie, third string QB. Strangely, things declined from there culminating with last season's fiasco.

Put your pants on and get to work Dak. It's the best thing for you, the team and the fans.

Team leadership and negotiating a new contract are different animals.

Every player on that team expects Prescott to bleed the turnip. The guy played out his contract and bet on himself and there's not one player not in his camp because that's what everyone of them plays for, they don't play for a team, they play for themselves and their family. It is all about the money, everything else is secondary.

Prescott hasn't done anything yet but not agree to a deal with the rollover team in the league. They've all watched how the Joneses negotiated with Lawrence and Elliott and they all expect to play hardball. They also know the agents the Joneses don't like to negotiate with. I am speaking of stars, not the regular guys that are just happy to have a job in the NFL .

He doesn't want a 5 year deal, just like every other QB contract extended the last few years. He hasn't done anything but miss some virtual BS that has nothing to do with the season. Think they installed the new O with that?

I think some posters here were not around back in the day when these players didn't do jack until July, when camp began. Most had jobs and a lot of the larger guys used camp to get back into shape. The fact that Prescott hasn't joined in some online session is totally meaningless. He has until July 15 to sign the tag and report for duty.

NotForLong · May 25, 2020

CouchCoach said:
Dak Prescott was never planning on not being the Dallas Cowboys QB1 come the first game of the season. The FO was never planning on him not being that. Too many have gotten themselves all twisted up in the business that is really none of our business.

If NFL ball is played, Dak Prescott will be there, like it or not. He was never planning on being anywhere else.

No, He was just planning on holding Cowboy Nation Hostage to satisfy his Enflated Greedy Ego . . . Real Man of the Year Type. . .

. . . Then Dalton Happened and Mr. McCarthy was all over it.

Now Dak is left to hang dry

KJJ · May 25, 2020

ShortRound131 said:
Hmmm I see a Kirk Cousins scenario

Hopefully it doesn’t play out the exact same way or we could end up like the Commanders.

G2 · May 25, 2020

the_h0wey said:
Not sure how one would determine that. Multiple outlets had Dak as the number one free agent this offseason. You don't think a top ten QB would get $30 million plus on the open market or are you just stupid?

I'm going with B.

big dog cowboy · May 25, 2020

I hate the off season.

CowboyRoy · May 25, 2020

leeblair said:
Correction:
"we're the only team dumb enough to pay him 30 million for 1 season."

There are at least 5 teams currently paying their QB 30 million or over. I guess you were just the only poster dumb enough to realize that?

Opinion: Prescott is going to show up on time

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