Week 16 Loss at Eagles May Turn Out To Be Incredibly Fortuitous

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817Gill said:
Here’s a list of all the pro’s and con’s of that loss:

Pros:
- Jason Garrett’s fate was sealed. ‘Nuff said.

- Winning that week would have prolonged the inevitable, this team and coaching staff had reached the end of the road. Losing 2 weeks later in the Wild Card or in the Divisional could have extended the Garrett tenure. Ew.

- Pick 17 in the 2020 draft. This is a sans Ceedee pro before I get to the obvious. Had we simply lost in the WC round like Philly, we would have been picking at 21 and them at 17. With 15ish real first round graded players every year, the chances at one of those players being available at 17 is high. Trading down or having a player fall in your lap both become very viable options in picks 16-18. At 21, you rarely get as lucky.

-That being said, Ceedee freakin Lamb. Imagine how we would feel if the Eagles got him? I’m glad we lost that game for this reason alone lol.

-This team was a wounded duck on its way down, winning this week would’ve been pointless as we certainly weren’t winning the Super Bowl.

-A culture of coaching ineptitude and a disorganized mess of responsibilities might have finally moved JJ to act like a normal owner. He’s already backed off as GM, and the leash he’s given Mike (a real HC btw) to go out and pick his own staff and impart his philosophy on the draft has been great. If he truly has learned, all the obstacles to deep playoff runs have theoretically been removed.

Cons:
-The way some players are judged after a year that was clearly one in which the coaching staff hit their limit, is severely lacking context. Especially since that week 16 game seems to be the favorite example.

-Never been one to care too much about pundits and fans, but the whole “8-8” Cowboys thing gets old especially when it’s been some time since we’ve been 8-8. How many guys on the roster now were here in ‘13? Now all of a sudden these are all 8-8 guys when the only common denominator between 8-8 and Dallas was Garrett? Gets annoying.

-Finally, acting like Philly is an annual SB lock because they beat us and made the playoffs is such a weird take. Don’t get me wrong they’ve definitely done more recently than us in terms of success, but this is getting laughable. I know they had injuries, but they were 5-7 coming off a loss to Miami. Everyone touts that they made some heroic late season comeback to make the playoffs when they literally beat two of the worst teams in the league and the lame duck Jason Garrett’s, followed by a Wentz injury and WC loss. Yet they are SB favorites by many again and some act like there is a huge gap between us both (Cowherd is the poster boy for this). I’ll take being the underdog but sheesh Philly hasn’t been a juggernaut since 2017 and wasn’t one before that. Solid team, solid FO, not a top SB pick.


In conclusion, that loss might have a huge impact on the future of this division. And to me, is just ahead of the Skins loss in October 2018 that netted us Amari Cooper. Losses that truly became wins.
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It's going to be so awesome at the end of next season to look back and see what a huge difference changing coaches made,,,
 
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Big_D said:
How else would anyone be able to brag about such an amazing win %? Like those magical 5 wins in 2010. Simply great when out of the playoff hunt.
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Takes the pressure off.
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My favorite was that 'hard fought' 6-0 'victory' over the Eagles 3rd stringers in 2017 that got Garrett another undeserved 'winning season'. We sure showed them!
 
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Takes the pressure off.
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My favorite was that 'hard fought' 6-0 'victory' over the Eagles 3rd stringers in 2017 that got Garrett another undeserved 'winning season'. We sure showed them!
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That was sweet. What an amazing job that day, one of his best!! That win dropped them like 5 or six spots in the draft?? So worth it just to see such coaching prowess.
 
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Of course they lost to a pretty good team , on the road, when it counted. Very fortuitous.
 
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boxer-rumble said:
The Cowboys under Garrett was just blah. No urgency, no motivation, no energy.

I’m hoping MM can light a fire and put these guys in positions to succeed. I’m ready to see a different energy this year.

The last against the Eagles was pathetic. No one seemed like they wanted it and with the season on the line. I was disgusted watching that crap fest.
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It was almost as if they wanted to lose and be done with a coach they had no faith in anymore.

Even with top coaches, the message gets stale after some time.

With a robot, they figure it out and tune it out. I think that happened long ago.

I'm sorry but I cant see players having all kinds of faith and confidence in a system that disguises nothing and sets them up for blame.
 
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fivetwos said:
It was almost as if they wanted to lose and be done with a coach they had no faith in anymore.

Even with top coaches, the message gets stale after some time.

With a robot, they figure it out and tune it out. I think that happened long ago.

I'm sorry but I cant see players having all kinds of faith and confidence in a system that disguises nothing and sets them up for blame.
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Big_D said:
How else would anyone be able to brag about such an amazing win %? Like those magical 5 wins in 2010. Simply great when out of the playoff hunt.
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actually Dallas was in the playoff hunt and would have been a tough out that year. Roy Williams caught a slant and went about 40 yards with it before having the ball punched out from behind and recovered by New Orleans. All he needed was the first down and to fall down in bounds and the game was over and he got the ball knocked loose trying to score. New orleans of course went down and scored and then dez screwed up two straight plays and we lost.

Had they beat New Orleans they would have been on their way to the wild card. They would have been 5-7 and in good shape ironically. When wade was fired Pasqualoni played a lot of zone and the defense got better over night. Ratliff and some of the other guys up front really played better under pasqualoni calling plays.

They lost a game at arizona they should not have lost and kitna threw two terrible interceptions before being injured and mcgee having to play. The defense gave up a late score and they lost.

had they beat new orleans though I think they would have had a momentum that might have got them to 8 wins or 9 wins and snuck in the wild card round. That saints team was one of the worst playoff teams ever and they lost to a 7-9 seahawks team.

of course then they would have never drafted Tyron Smith so it all worked out for the best.
 
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also,

This teams fate was sealed after the vikings loss. No matter what Sturm says. There are a few things that happened that have been kept behind closed doors and the media does not know them yet which is very suprising to me honestly. I am sure they will come out during the season but dont be fooled it was over after the failed comeback vs the vikings and the fair punt fiasco. The players were done with Garrett 100%

This season was filled with all kinds of nonsense. From the field to the staff to the in house media. It was a ridiculous travesty of nonsense that should not have happened because the staff should have been changed after the loss at LA the year before.
 
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Hardline said:
And the Commanders wouldn't have been in the position to draft Chase Young.
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The Commanders were trying to lose in week 17. There was no question, all the talk of Bill Callahan wanting revenge was nonsense in the end. They were going to lose the game on purpose if they had to.
 
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