Teams Dak Prescott has not beaten

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I don't think its is THAT black and white. I believe we could point to a game and say "well....that QB put the teams on his back and won that game". If you make me I'll look up a couple Rodgers games....but surely you could agree...that SOMETIMES.... aplayer can bear more...or less...responsibility than the whole entire team.

I get it...it's difficult to pinpoint one turning point or one event. But I think if it's possible (it is).....then QB is the most likely....with his great responsibility to handle the ball and make the calls and have command over what's done.

An awesome defensive interception could very well be a one player difference between a win or loss.

I'm not gonna play coy about it just because our Qb might need some defending against the haters. A single player CAN be the difference between a win and loss, even when there are some complicated mechanics involved.
Is the QB playing alone? No, he's not. This "put the team on his back" nonsense is just that. The game is 60 minutes longs full of dozens of plays with dozens of players. Sure a player could have a larger role, but the QB is't blocking for himself, running the ball, blocking etc....So no, it's not more than the sum of the team. This isn't fantasy football. I think the QB position is the most polarizing and the common fan doesn't take the game in it's entirety in account.
It's a team sport. When fans use wins and losses and attribute to one player they are not being realistic. I don't care if you're for or against Prescott.
 

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Is the QB playing alone? No, he's not. This "put the team on his back" nonsense is just that. The game is 60 minutes longs full of dozens of plays with dozens of players. Sure a player could have a larger role, but the QB is't blocking for himself, running the ball, blocking etc....So no, it's not more than the sum of the team. This isn't fantasy football. I think the QB position is the most polarizing and the common fan doesn't take the game in it's entirety in account.
It's a team sport. When fans use wins and losses and attribute to one player they are not being realistic. I don't care if you're for or against Prescott.


I already agree to the complicated mechanics of an entire football game. Not sure why you are trying to argue about THAT.

But I stand by my opinion that a single heroic play can be considered a game winner by one player. Yes!...even though there were great and terrible plays BEFORE it.

We'll have to disagree about this. It's okay. It happens.
 

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Since 2011 Dallas has played the Jets 3 times and is 0-3 against them.

Romo lost
Moore lost
Dak lost

What do all 3 of these have in common........ Garrett was the HC. While I agree there is no excuse for losing to the Jets, I tend to think the trend shows a Garrett issue

This guy definitely does the sex.
 

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I don't think its is THAT black and white. I believe we could point to a game and say "well....that QB put the teams on his back and won that game". If you make me I'll look up a couple Rodgers games....but surely you could agree...that SOMETIMES.... aplayer can bear more...or less...responsibility than the whole entire team.

I get it...it's difficult to pinpoint one turning point or one event. But I think if it's possible (it is).....then QB is the most likely....with his great responsibility to handle the ball and make the calls and have command over what's done.

An awesome defensive interception could very well be a one player difference between a win or loss.

I'm not gonna play coy about it just because our Qb might need some defending against the haters. A single player CAN be the difference between a win and loss, even when there are some complicated mechanics involved.

How about, "Dak has lost every game in which the Cowboys have been outscored by their opponents?"
 

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Wow, Dak has beaten all these teams so therefore we can credit him for the following...

2017 9-7
2018 10-6
2019 8-8

Alright Dak what a winner baby!!!

P.S. No excuses for the above as you can't have your Dak-cream and Dak-Cake together!!!

This is Zeke's record too, minus his suspension he got for being Zeke.
 

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We loss to N.E. , Buffalo and Jets last year.

We loss to Houston, Tennessee, and Indianapolis in 2018.

We need to start owning the AFC. Cause right now they own us.
Don't look now but the Iggles are circling and ready to swoop down and pick our bones.

The Giants have hired our Former HC and he is filling in their team with info on defense, offense and STs.

The Commanders with their new HC Ron Rivera are quietly laying in wait for us and had a good draft to move there cause along.

People who think we are going to smooth right through all our changes and pop to the surface and have a magical season are just too out of touch.
 

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So gets the credit for beating 22 NFL teams but no liabilities for the average W-L records the past 3 years.
You Dak-Zoids have a real balanced sense of Dak-reality....LOL...:muttley:

I am a Dak Zoid at all. I just believe firmly the teams woes started and ended with the former coach. You can blame everything on Dak though. It’s a free country until at least November.
 

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I already agree to the complicated mechanics of an entire football game. Not sure why you are trying to argue about THAT.

But I stand by my opinion that a single heroic play can be considered a game winner by one player. Yes!...even though there were great and terrible plays BEFORE it.

We'll have to disagree about this. It's okay. It happens.
Sure. Now do any player making a play to win a game. You say you understand the mechanics of a TEAM, but are singling out one position. How many times did we bust off a monster punt to start the opposing team deep? How many game winnings FG's were to be had? How many shut down corners/safeties sealed a win? Game ending INT? Sacks?

Until you can take an honest look throughout, then yeah....Agree to disagree.
 

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I am a Dak Zoid at all. I just believe firmly the teams woes started and ended with the former coach. You can blame everything on Dak though. It’s a free country until at least November.

Check with Andy Reid and how much he misses Alex Smith......:muttley:
 

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Check with Andy Reid and how much he misses Alex Smith......:muttley:

I usually like your posts but I think you must have suffered a head injury. Reid replaces Smith with Mahomes. Mahomes is a generational talent. Few in history have had his skill set. You replacing Dak with Mahomes 2.0? How do you figure that?
 

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If qak beats 22 teams, how many of those wins was Jason Garrett on the sidelines for?
 

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So it's okay to give Dak all the credit for 'beating teams' if you support giving him a big new deal but if you point out that he was 1-6 against playoff teams last season then you are a hater because it's a team game and you can't blame Dak for losses due to the defense, coaching staff, WR drops, o-line issues, Zeke, etc.? Yeah, that is some interesting logic going on.

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If 'Dak' had beaten either NE, the Jets, or Buffalo last year Dallas would have made the playoffs but alas 'Dak' didn't beat those teams and Dallas missed the playoffs.


Oh, and if you want to examine stats closer then take into account that Dak has a 40-24 career record as the starting QB of the Cowboys but if you take out his rookie season of 13-3, Dak's record the last 3 seasons is 27-21......and of that record Dak has a record against the Commanders & Giants in the last 3 seasons of 11-1...against 2 teams that clearly have been crap the last 3 seasons.

Therefore, outside of the Commanders & Giants the last 3 seasons, Dak has a record of 16-20.....yeah, give Dak a huge contract based on that record. LOL

Nope it's not ok to give Dak all the credit for beating teams, just like it's not alright to give him all the blame for losing to teams. Being an Army veteran, I would have expected you to understand the team concept... Considering the One Team Concept of the Army is one team, one fight, one future. Guess I was wrong. But alas, I digress.

Wins and losses are accomplished by a team. No one player takes the field by himself. So... If the Cowboys win, it's because "The Team" won. If the Cowboys lose, it's because "The Team" loss. Any other argument is nothing more then an individual trying to twist the narrative to fit his / her agenda.

Unfortunately, some posters only post to create division and turmoil. They thrive on it. They love being as ignorant as they possibly can be, just so they can get a response to their posts. My guess is, they live a very boring existence and this forum is their only escape from it. Of course, the other option is, their friends are so sick of hearing their idiotic BS, they have no other choice but to post it here.
 

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I’m sure the OP meant to say the Cowboys beat those teams with at QB.
Right?

This isn’t two 5 year old girls playing barbies death dual
 
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