Video: Dak doesn’t deserve long term deal until SB win

Whirlwin

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Of course not, the trick of a talented FO is to recognize an up and coming talents abilities and projecting that future contract because you know what you have now can be had at a substantial discount.
That's the question with Dak,,, was Dak so under payed during his rookie contract, and the FO failed to recognize his uber talent
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Did the FO say, that's one hell of a 4th round draft pick that can never become a franchise type QB?
That's were the division lies on this entire Dak never ending drama.
I believe the latter, that this FO realized they bought some serious time to transition from Romo era,, and only cost them a 4th round pick.
Now Dak wants to make up those first 4 years with a blockbuster, history making top payed contract.
Both sides are having a very difficult time understanding how to make this work.
None of the above. Prescott said do not pay me until I prove myself. And then when I do and now he’s asking for what he wants. That’s what happened. Pay the man he’s worth it the kid is a winner. Without him we should’ve stayed with Jason. Obviously not goodbye Jason . Neither side is having trouble making this work. When the time comes it will happen everything else is posturing. I’ve never seen the salary cap since it’s been in the league ever be an issue for this franchise. Just a lot of complaining about it
 

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None of the above. Prescott said do not pay me until I prove myself. And then when I do and now he’s asking for what he wants. That’s what happened. Pay the man he’s worth it the kid is a winner. Without him we should’ve stayed with Jason. Obviously not goodbye Jason . Neither side is having trouble making this work. When the time comes it will happen everything else is posturing. I’ve never seen the salary cap since it’s been in the league ever be an issue for this franchise. Just a lot of complaining about it
And that's not true at all and you know it,, Dallas has layed several proposals on the table, but Dak has chosen to listen to his agent that said just wait, don't sign it, there is going to be a lot more money if you just wait.
That whole prove my worth deal is really funny if you are looking at everything that has transpired objectionably.
 

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That’s because Jerry and his Ego had to show the people that he was so smart and struck gold with a UDFA just like the Pats did and pay him elite money when in fact he was not elite.

Steven is now in charge and they prefer not to go down that road again.
Excuse me. But what was Romo doing his 1st 3 years in the NFL? What did Dak Prescott do in his 1st 3 years? I rest my case. They are not the same. Division II is much different that the SEC in college. You are what you are.

If that is Stephen Jones GM thinking that elite money is not deserving of a 3 time Pro Bowl, 2 time Playoff with a playoff win QB in his 1st 4 years doing it with an idiot coach like Jason Garrett, he is just as much a DUMBO GM as Jerry Dumbo GM Jones.
 

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I hate how fans today expect no better than equal sub par over payed performance.
i love how some fans pretend we don't have a good young QB....or the chowder heads who think wentz won a super bowl.
 

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There will be more Daks in coming Draft. No reason to break the team over him. I want Dak as QB but he has not earned highest pay in NFL, yet.
 

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Didn't have the heart to back track and :lmao:@JoeKing, just wasn't worth it.
I was about to post the same,,, jees.. Dak Slobbers abound.

Man you might as well have not replied to me, I'm a supporter of Dak getting paid lol. I was just pointing out that him calling out the Jones was incorrect because they literally could not have given him a contract after his rookie year.
 

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Fair enough. I don't agree with not signing QBs just because they haven't won a Super Bowl but then again, I don't agree with signing QBs to record breaking deals when they haven't proven they can either. JMO


Let me ask a couple of questions. Do you think and/or agree that the contracts and market value of QB's goes up every year? Do you think it is right to compare the contract amounts and market values of QB's from previous year's smaller caps to current larger cap amounts. If you answered yes to the last question then you can't agree that contract amounts and market value go up every year. Most players coming off their rookie contracts get the amount they get based to 2 things. What they have already done and what the team feels strongly that they can do in the future. Unfortunately for the fans, what the fans think that QB has done or will be able to do doesn't enter into the contract negotiations. We may wish it does, but it doesn't.
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i love how some fans pretend we don't have a good young QB....or the chowder heads who think wentz won a super bowl.
Of course Dak is a good young QB,, I don't understand your point.
 

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So you think everybody needs to win a ring before they get paid. Do you not get sarcasm. Do you not understand how simple of a statement that is. Did you flunk sandbox my cowboy brother
I probably did flunk sandbox, cant say I ever spent much time in one,, and as I have always stated, waiting till you win a ring before you pay is always a detriment cap wise to a franchise.
Recognizing the talent before that happens and signing that player is a major bonus to a franchise.
Where does that leave Dak?
Don't confuse my stance on this situation with what others have beat the wall with.
 

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Man you might as well have not replied to me, I'm a supporter of Dak getting paid lol. I was just pointing out that him calling out the Jones was incorrect because they literally could not have given him a contract after his rookie year.
Well, we all have to start somewhere with recognizing the real truth, and really none of us here will know until this contract is decided on, or not.
 

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Why are you having such trouble keeping up? I said he deserved a raise to the rookie max after his rookie season. After his 3rd season, he was eligible for an extension but still didn't get it but he should have at least got a bonus at that time too. So that's twice they have failed to show some appreciation. I believe when they made him play through the full 4 years of his rookie contract, it was a sign to Dak of a lack of appreciation. They gave him lips service that he was their guy which is nice but what really counts is the money. I don't blame Dak for asking for the moon at this time.

You proved you have no knowledge of contracts in the NFL. There are no escalation clauses in rookie contracts. There is no way the Cowboys or any team can just raise contract amounts on a rookie contract after it's signed. They can't modify the rookie contract after the rookie season and are only able to extend their contract after the 3rd year. Now the Cowboys didn't force Prescott to play the entire 4th year on his rookie contract. In fact the cowboys just before week 1 last season made an offer that Prescott rejected and then told the Cowboys that he WOULD NOT negotiate during the season so he can concentrate on the game. Things may not be going as you want them to but what you think is the way it is, is very far from what things are in reality.
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I probably did flunk sandbox, cant say I ever spent much time in one,, and as I have always stated, waiting till you win a ring before you pay is always a detriment cap wise to a franchise.
Recognizing the talent before that happens and signing that player is a major bonus to a franchise.
Where does that leave Dak?
Don't confuse my stance on this situation with what others have beat the wall with.
I was just being sarcastic you know that right. That’s why I said my cowboy brother
 
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