Twitter: Troy Aikman: I Love Dak. I Would Pay Him

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No one's questioning Wentz's ability as a QB.
Again, if Wentz had gone through a protracted negotiation like Dak there would have been people questioning whether he is worth it, just like they are with Dak. Realistically, there were plenty of people that saw the team win the Super Bowl with Wentz on the bench, so Wentz would almost certainly have been questioned in a long negotiation.
 
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Again, if Wentz had gone through a protracted negotiation like Dak there would have been people questioning whether he is worth it, just like they are with Dak. Realistically, there were plenty of people that saw the team win the Super Bowl with Wentz on the bench, so Wentz would almost certainly have been questioned in a long negotiation.
*if*

Not a single person of any team is questioning Wentz's ability so why are you inserting that if somehow Wentz would've gone through a longer negotiation process it would be different? It didn't happen, so that's not even an argument. I'm one that said the Eagles should've stuck with Foles regardless (because Foles was the much cheaper option and works in their system) and they possibly could've received some nice value in a trade.
 

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the fact that there's even a debate about this speaks volumes about his abilities. The last time any top qb had the fanbase split on whether to pay him? Never. Now insert an above average guy with traits ranging from below average to above average and flashes of greatness and here's the problem...
so now the fanbase is what controls the inner workings of a professional team?
 

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which does troy love more??? dak, or the opportunity to take a shot at jerry?

Jerry gave Troy everything..no reason to hate him besides making the cowboys irrelevant the last 24 seasons.
 

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BS. It was the exact same way when Romo was playing. Same ridiculous "average" talk. If you think it's Dallas specific you're sadly mistaken.
You are exactly right. Additionally, every Brady Quinn/Christian Ponder type QB that came along in the draft was yearned for to replace Romo. They wanted a different QB, any QB, to just get rid of #9.
 

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so now the fanbase is what controls the inner workings of a professional team?
Never understood this reach logic so many of you tend to base your arguments on. My point was about fans split on his is contract and why it appears there's a holdup. Why do people act like we control the team? By your logic why do we even discuss anything related to the team lol
 

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You are exactly right. Additionally, every Brady Quinn/Christian Ponder type QB that came along in the draft was yearned for to replace Romo. They wanted a different QB, any QB, to just get rid of #9.
I distinctly remember some around here praising that ponder dude like no other.
 

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You are exactly right. Additionally, every Brady Quinn/Christian Ponder type QB that came along in the draft was yearned for to replace Romo. They wanted a different QB, any QB, to just get rid of #9.
Yeah, it's a strange and insane concept. I mean, do fans understand how difficult it is to land a solid QB? They'd rather sink the ship.
 

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*if*

Not a single person of any team is questioning Wentz's ability so why are you inserting that if somehow Wentz would've gone through a longer negotiation process it would be different? It didn't happen, so that's not even an argument. I'm one that said the Eagles should've stuck with Foles regardless (because Foles was the much cheaper option and works in their system) and they possibly could've received some nice value in a trade.
Yes, if. The point is Wentz and Dak aren't in the same situation, so it makes no sense to act as if they are just to fit the narrative you want to promote. The contract situations do affect perception, and Dak is in a different contract situation than Wentz was.

And if you think nobody questions Wentz, you aren't reading the comments in this website at all because a lot of people on this site question Wentz. And after the 2017 season Eagles fans did too because they saw the team win the Super Bowl without Wentz.
 

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Yes, if. The point is Wentz and Dak aren't in the same situation, so it makes no sense to act as if they are just to fit the narrative you want to promote. The contract situations do affect perception, and Dak is in a different contract situation than Wentz was.

And if you think nobody questions Wentz, you aren't reading the comments in this website at all because a lot of people on this site question Wentz. And after the 2017 season Eagles fans did too because they saw the team win the Super Bowl without Wentz.
Just because they won with Foles doesn't mean they're doubting Wentz QB abilities. Health maybe, not his ability. But I already said my opinion on that as well.

Bottom line Dak is being unnecessarily greedy. No matter how you want to spin it he's rejecting a top paid contract because he's worried about the market value when its over compared to his final year.
 

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Just because they won with Foles doesn't mean they're doubting Wentz QB abilities. Health maybe, not his ability. But I already said my opinion on that as well.

Bottom line Dak is being unnecessarily greedy. No matter how you want to spin it he's rejecting a top paid contract because he's worried about the market value when its over compared to his final year.
It absolutely does mean they were doubting if they Wentz was necessary, and especially at the price of $30-35 million per year. The only difference with Wentz is that issue didn't linger - the contract was done quickly and quietly, so there was no ongoing debate. With Dak the contract situation is lingering, so the debate is lingering.
 

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Jerry gave Troy everything..no reason to hate him besides making the cowboys irrelevant the last 24 seasons.
their parting of the ways wasn't the best. troy left bitter. seems both are capable of holding a grudge for a long time.
 

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It absolutely does mean they were doubting if they Wentz was necessary, and especially at the price of $30-35 million per year. The only difference with Wentz is that issue didn't linger - the contract was done quickly and quietly, so there was no ongoing debate. With Dak the contract situation is lingering, so the debate is lingering.
Doubting their ability to win without him isn't doubting his ability. But I said my part, don't think I can add to this subject.
 

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Doubting their ability to win without him isn't doubting his ability. But I said my part, don't think I can add to this subject.
I would say thinking Nick Foles was just as capable or more IS doubting his ability. Nick Foles is not the standard for a top QB.

And, again, you would have seen a lot more discussion about that had Wentz had a protracted contract situation. There are a lot of people coming down on Dak now that weren't before his protracted contract negotiation.
 

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their parting of the ways wasn't the best. troy left bitter. seems both are capable of holding a grudge for a long time.
That's putting it mildly and Aikman has had it hard for Booger ever since. I had to side with Aikman on that one, Booger out and out lied that Aikman had retired when he'd been released, what a coward.

Aikman isn't going to side with Booger on anything and I usually don't have interest in the HOF but him presenting Jimmy Johnson will be must watch for me. Aikman will not be able to keep from digging in on Booger for the breakup and being a liar about his "retirement". It is interesting that Jimmy picked Aikman because he's always given more credit to Turner for his success. I am taking bets that Aikman mentions the ROH during that presentation. I think he really despises Booger, everything about him.
 

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That's putting it mildly and Aikman has had it hard for Booger ever since. I had to side with Aikman on that one, Booger out and out lied that Aikman had retired when he'd been released, what a coward.

Aikman isn't going to side with Booger on anything and I usually don't have interest in the HOF but him presenting Jimmy Johnson will be must watch for me. Aikman will not be able to keep from digging in on Booger for the breakup and being a liar about his "retirement". It is interesting that Jimmy picked Aikman because he's always given more credit to Turner for his success. I am taking bets that Aikman mentions the ROH during that presentation. I think he really despises Booger, everything about him.
as I recall, a couple of years ago the cowboys had a reunion that was even shown on local tv. aikman refused to attend unless jimmy was invited. he made that abundantly clear. jerry tried to be gracious with jimmy there, but you could feel the tension through the tv screen. his comments regarding jimmy's upcoming hall of fame induction and the fact jimmy is not in the roh clearly show what a grudge holding so...… jerry can b.
 

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Never understood this reach logic so many of you tend to base your arguments on. My point was about fans split on his is contract and why it appears there's a holdup. Why do people act like we control the team? By your logic why do we even discuss anything related to the team lol
only thing thats reaching is your views on anything involving dak. so extreme. Dak isnt and hasnt been the problem with this team.
 
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