News: FS: Dak Prescott trade: 5 NFL teams who should call Cowboys

Bottom line is Dak will be Dallas' QB

But.....Good old Fansided

The only team on that list that I think would consider a trade is Jacksonville. But who knows...maybe Detroit? Wow, Stafford in Dallas with this line, WRs and RB!!

1--Jacksonville: Maybe? But they have a legit shot to win the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes unless Minshew improves his 2nd year. Lawrence on a long term rookie deal vs paying 35-37 mil per year for Dak.

2--New England: No chance. It's not remotely in their philosophy. No way. The would never pay him. Never have, never will.

3--San Francisco: I don't see this one either. Jimmy was just coming off missing a full year from an ACL. However, if he somehow sucks this year, this could get interesting after the season. But I think they like him a lot but were protecting him a bit in 2019.

4--Detroit: Stafford was outstanding last year before he got hurt (was NFL iron man until that injury) Only 8 games, but a whopping 19 Tds and only 5 ints...106 ratings.
But he's older now. I guess never say never. Detroit might think Dak is their long term solution.
Man, having Stafford in Dallas for a couple of years with all these weapons--and especially finally an oline and run game. he would be in heaven.
This guy say Stafford AND multiple picks though. Just don't see it.

5--Buffalo: Imo...Out the question.. They love their young gun and he's still on a rookie deal. Not in 2020. But if he doesn't continue to improve, maybe 2021 or 2022?

TwoDeep3 said:

So let me get this right. The Cowboys had a great draft. Great post draft FA signings (rookies.) And added some talent via Free agency (NFL players.) Including beefing up the DT spots, and hiring a coach who values a push up the middle and stop the run, as opposed to what ever Opie was thinking and clapping to.

The table is set.

Then the idea is to trade Dak for a first and a fourth, then start Dalton, who is speculated by the Emo Analytics set to be as good, or even better than Dak, for a shot at the number 1 pick in next year's draft.

Which sinks McCarthy's first season, and has him training a QB for results several years down the road. It also means the people on defense you signed for a one year run will be gone, and this team is essentially starting a rebuild with a target year of perhaps 2023 for Lawrence to be ready for prime time. And your defense is now worse than it was before you made the trade.

And this is what the Emo Crew want to do because they believe Dak can't win, and Dalton, who is questionably not as good will suffice as you people wait on your franchise QB that has played zero games in the NFL.

All you people whining about Dak will suddenly shate out patience that you don't possess for Dak because of money which doesn't come out of your pocket.

The level of vitriol on this site for Dak, and the thinking behind it, has now become unhinged. You don't value Dak over a 30-something QB who has achieved nothing, yet you believe a franchise will trade away a first plus - and some think that will be two firsts plus, to Dallas for a guy drafted in the fourth that you admittedly believe is not a starting QB in this league.

Do you have any idea just how ridiculous your position is to anyone who values logic? Because the sardine has surely slipped off your Ritz cracker.

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You have accurately described a significant portion of the FanZone posters

They have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to building a team or frankly, the NFL.

Their pie in the sky, pray for a miracle, “strategy usually revolves around tanking the team every two to three years trying to catch lightning in a bottle.

mcmvp said:

Not really. I haven’t seen many people think Prescott would net multiple 1st rounders in a trade. It really only got mentioned when people were discussing ‘standard compensation’ for a player that has a particular franchise tag status. I don’t recall a lot of people saying it was realistic....especially considering is not just the draft capital to part with, but the contract to pay him on top of it. It basically makes it close to impossible to hope for.

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There are several posts in this very thread saying we can turn Dak into the #1 overall pick in next years draft ... and keep our first.

I think you overestimate the football IQ is some of your fellow posters

bsbellomy said:

I guess you can include the owners of the team in that group too. There is a price at which you can't go to for this guy and we are at it.

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Let me ask you a couple questions, do you win the super bowl for saving money? If you don't pay dak, who are you going to pay to make this team better today?

You don't have those answers because there isn't a player out there. Let's say you draft a qb in the first round next year. Does he play? Does he sit 1 year behind dalton? Will he even be as good as Dak? Goff was the #1 pick in 2016 and guess what he isn't better than Dak. And guess what the #2 pick is neck and neck with Dak. The front office totally botched this negotiation this isn't on the player. Dak should have been signed last offseason for what wentz got signed for. But the Jones' have to take their family vacations so real GMs that actually do their job signed their qbs. The price will only keep going up. Right now Dak is in the mix of 5 best qbs under the age of 30. Mahomes, Jackson, Dak, Wentz, Watson.

Before you say he's not good just stop. I can pull up mountains of data that shows different while you have "tHe EyE tEsT"

Kwyn said:

There are several posts in this very thread saying we can turn Dak into the #1 overall pick in next years draft ... and keep our first.

I think you overestimate the football IQ is some of your fellow posters

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He's an eagles fan. Just because they have one of the best GMs in the business in Roseman. He thinks Jerry can pull off the same stuff lol. I mean that sam bradford thing was genius. But they also got lucky with bridgewater's leg almost falling off.

Hennessy_King said:

Let me ask you a couple questions, do you win the super bowl for saving money? If you don't pay dak, who are you going to pay to make this team better today?

You don't have those answers because there isn't a player out there. Let's say you draft a qb in the first round next year. Does he play? Does he sit 1 year behind dalton? Will he even be as good as Dak? Goff was the #1 pick in 2016 and guess what he isn't better than Dak. And guess what the #2 pick is neck and neck with Dak. The front office totally botched this negotiation this isn't on the player. Dak should have been signed last offseason for what wentz got signed for. But the Jones' have to take their family vacations so real GMs that actually do their job signed their qbs. The price will only keep going up. Right now Dak is in the mix of 5 best qbs under the age of 30. Mahomes, Jackson, Dak, Wentz, Watson.

Before you say he's not good just stop. I can pull up mountains of data that shows different while you have "tHe EyE tEsT"

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Don’t pay Dak.

morat1959 said:

Don’t pay Dak.

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Great rebuttal my guy. So you actually have zero plans to make this a championship team you just don't want them to pay dak because of your personal bias. Explains the message to like ratio.

Hennessy_King said:

He's an eagles fan. Just because they have one of the best GMs in the business in Roseman. He thinks Jerry can pull off the same stuff lol. I mean that sam bradford thing was genius. But they also got lucky with bridgewater's leg almost falling off.

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lol... Do you even read the posts, or do you just make blanket comments that make no sense?

I do think Roseman is a better GM…but that is besides the point and irrelevant to this topic.

Nowhere did I say Jerry could pull this off. Dak is not tradable at this point… His contract demands make it that way. Sure Dallas could trade him, but not for multiple first round picks. There is not a team out there that would part with that draft capital and also pay him what he is asking for. It’s common sense

PAPPYDOG said:

Unfortunately, Dak's bus won't take us all.....

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Dude I don't like you but that was funny I don't care who you are

mcmvp said:

lol... Do you even read the posts, or do you just make blanket comments that make no sense?

I do think Roseman is a better GM…but that is besides the point and irrelevant to this topic.

Nowhere did I say Jerry could pull this off. Dak is not tradable at this point… His contract demands make it that way. Sure Dallas could trade him, but not for multiple first round picks. There is not a team out there that would part with that draft capital and also pay him what he is asking for. It’s common sense

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They believe it because Roseman pulled it off even with bradfords bloated contract. One of the best GM moves I've seen in a while. A team with Cap space may trade a first. Like if I were the Jags in a total rebuild y not if I think this guy could be my qb for almost 10 years.

wow when dak gets that big pay day if he don't win in the playoffs or help take the team on a deep playoff run its really going to be rough on him around here

Oh is it Trade Dak day? When is Dak vs Brady day? Those are fun.

cowboyblue22 said:

wow when dak gets that big pay day if he don't win in the playoffs or help take the team on a deep playoff run its really going to be rough on him around here

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Sadly, yes.
I got was talking to a non-CowboysZoner but die-hard Cowboys fan last night. Big dak fan, but even he is really fed up right now.
He gets that the market is out of whack for QBs (so not Da's fault) but he does not see Dak as a truly elite guy like Mahomes or Wilson ( I agree, btw), so its ticks him off that he wants 35mil plus and on his own terms for the contract duration.
oh well

Nova said:

that’s the thing. Barring an unlikely slide, The Cowboys aren’t going to be in position to get him.

This roster won’t go 2-14 without him.

The Jags won’t go 2-14 with him.

And no one in their right mind is going to trade the number 1 overall pick next year.

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Don’t try making sense it’s not allowed in this thread lol

bsbellomy said:

So let me get this straight. You want Dak at a price tag that will pay him north of 35M per season for the next 5 years?

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Evidently the entire comment didn't resonate with you.

Your options:

1. Keep Dak . His price tag has zero to do with you. Don't argue cap, because there isn't a cap expert on this site who can speak intelligently about the ramifications of his salary.

2. Trade Dak. But the lunacy of his worth, especially when you argue he isn't worth the money it will take to sign him will also be the problem with trade partners. And you are asking a premium price in draft stock, which makes it even more impossible if your idea olf his worth is anywhere near accurate.

3. When trading Dak, you then put this team in the position of having a 30+ year old QB that is about as mobile as Aikman. You have a team that believes in Dak and you just sent a message if the team doesn't value their number one QB, what's the point in even negotiating with them when my contract comes up.

4. You have a new coach that is trying to assume the lead, and yet the brain trust just traded away their starting QB that posted 5000 yards in passing the previous season. How neutered did you just make McCarthy. This is more of the same as you saw with Garrett.

So when you put up the straw man question about money, you ignore all the issues that come with removing Dak from the team. And that includes allowing him to play on a tag, because that erodes confidence in the players.

You cherry pick one aspect as if that is the end all be all.

The money does not matter. The window is now. And any option you choose other than signing Dak ends up jettisoning the immediate future for hopes of drafting Lawrence, and that he will be what you have claimed he is now.

Just how screwed is the team if all you could get one late first round pick and you cannot move up enough to get a starter at QB?

How screwed is the team if you can't move up far enough to get Lawrence?

How screwed is the team if Lawrence ends up being Jared Goff?

How screwed is the team if Dalton tosses an 8-8 with all the changes made?

How screwed is the team when the majority of FA on a one year contract leave after this season and you don't have a starting QB worth a damn and glaring holes at every level of the defense in 2021/22?

The case you base this strictly on salary indicates you are of the exact mind set I mean when I mention Emo Analytics. You see one aspect that displeases you, and you build up a case which ignores all the pitfalls of letting this guy go.

TwoDeep3 said:

So let me get this right. The Cowboys had a great draft. Great post draft FA signings (rookies.) And added some talent via Free agency (NFL players.) Including beefing up the DT spots, and hiring a coach who values a push up the middle and stop the run, as opposed to what ever Opie was thinking and clapping to.

The table is set.

Then the idea is to trade Dak for a first and a fourth, then start Dalton, who is speculated by the Emo Analytics set to be as good, or even better than Dak, for a shot at the number 1 pick in next year's draft.

Which sinks McCarthy's first season, and has him training a QB for results several years down the road. It also means the people on defense you signed for a one year run will be gone, and this team is essentially starting a rebuild with a target year of perhaps 2023 for Lawrence to be ready for prime time. And your defense is now worse than it was before you made the trade.

And this is what the Emo Crew want to do because they believe Dak can't win, and Dalton, who is questionably not as good will suffice as you people wait on your franchise QB that has played zero games in the NFL.

All you people whining about Dak will suddenly shate out patience that you don't possess for Dak because of money which doesn't come out of your pocket.

The level of vitriol on this site for Dak, and the thinking behind it, has now become unhinged. You don't value Dak over a 30-something QB who has achieved nothing, yet you believe a franchise will trade away a first plus - and some think that will be two firsts plus, to Dallas for a guy drafted in the fourth that you admittedly believe is not a starting QB in this league.

Do you have any idea just how ridiculous your position is to anyone who values logic? Because the sardine has surely slipped off your Ritz cracker.

Emo Analytics. The parachute bat shate crazy floats in on.

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Gotta love the zone just a notch above the ranch. The ignorance runs rapid. Dallas fans are why other fans hate the cowboys so much. Well that and past success .

some of the trolls are funny some are annoying but all of them equally wrong.

the game day threads ought to be quite amazing when Dak signs

big dog cowboy said:

The chances of any possible trade of Dak to those teams are pretty low.

I don't think I can see any of them being very serious about making a deal.

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I would say the chances are zero.

It appears the Cowboys and Dak/agent are in agreement on salary and guaranteed money. They just can't agree on number of years.

What are the chances that a player would hold out because he wanted a 4 year contract and the team was offering a 5 year contract if they were otherwise in agreement on total money and guaranteed money?

The agent would have a hard time selling the player on that concept. A 4 year contract will have less guaranteed money than a 5 year contract.

The deadline is July 15th. The Cowboys won't put much effort into getting the deal done until a couple of days before the deadline.

If it happens before July it will likely be because Dak told the agent to get it done.

TwoDeep3 said:

So let me get this right. The Cowboys had a great draft. Great post draft FA signings (rookies.) And added some talent via Free agency (NFL players.) Including beefing up the DT spots, and hiring a coach who values a push up the middle and stop the run, as opposed to what ever Opie was thinking and clapping to.

The table is set.

Then the idea is to trade Dak for a first and a fourth, then start Dalton, who is speculated by the Emo Analytics set to be as good, or even better than Dak, for a shot at the number 1 pick in next year's draft.

Which sinks McCarthy's first season, and has him training a QB for results several years down the road. It also means the people on defense you signed for a one year run will be gone, and this team is essentially starting a rebuild with a target year of perhaps 2023 for Lawrence to be ready for prime time. And your defense is now worse than it was before you made the trade.

And this is what the Emo Crew want to do because they believe Dak can't win, and Dalton, who is questionably not as good will suffice as you people wait on your franchise QB that has played zero games in the NFL.

All you people whining about Dak will suddenly shate out patience that you don't possess for Dak because of money which doesn't come out of your pocket.

The level of vitriol on this site for Dak, and the thinking behind it, has now become unhinged. You don't value Dak over a 30-something QB who has achieved nothing, yet you believe a franchise will trade away a first plus - and some think that will be two firsts plus, to Dallas for a guy drafted in the fourth that you admittedly believe is not a starting QB in this league.

Do you have any idea just how ridiculous your position is to anyone who values logic? Because the sardine has surely slipped off your Ritz cracker.

Emo Analytics. The parachute bat shate crazy floats in on.

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Its not all vitriol.

There are legitimate concerns which MAY be being discussed by people who's money is involved.

1) MM may not think that Dak's his guy.
2) MM may prefer to play 2020 with the team he's been given and then make a decision on having the squad for a year.
3) MM may want to make his own decision at QB rather than take the job and have the QB (REGARDLESS OF HOW GOOD HE IS) foisted upon him without any contact?
4) MM may prefer spending money in other areas, rather than on a QB.
5) MM may be looking at the long term and not just 2020
6) We don't know the details of the contract negotiation - but it may not have anything to do with worth or value, but, the flexibility

You do appreciate that anyone actually saying Dalton is better than Dak is trying (successfully) to wind you up.

ShortRound131 said:

Oh is it Trade Dak day? When is Dak vs Brady day? Those are fun.

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We’re waiting on the day Dak is no longer a Cowboy. That’s when the celebration of looking forward to another SB will begin.

Asklesko said:

I volunteer my big rig to haul the boy to his next destination.

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All aboard.