News: Cooper in the slot?

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Read an article about Ceedee Lamb today that had an interesting take.



Basically, Cooper absolutely murders in the slot. While he's functioned almost entirely as a boundary receiver in a year and a half with Dallas, that's because we've had no one else who could credibly take snaps out the outside while Cooper exploits mismatches inside. Lamb's that dude.

This isn't to say that Coop's not going to start at X and still play a ton of snaps there, but it could open up a very dangerous wrinkle and put our $100 million man in more positions to succeed.
TE is another area that will effect Coopers play.

Slot sounds fine but TE has to be a weapon to help whomever plays slot.

I am totally not sold on Jarwin. Heck not too long ago he could not beat out Gaither nor Swaim.

Suddenly he's the starter after catching a TD and a few 1st downs?

Please.

And Shultz. a sloth.

We have perpetually been unable to develop any sort of TE other than Witten.

Want to see this fixed better.

Cooper? Can he play TE? Cee Dee?
 

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Read an article about Ceedee Lamb today that had an interesting take.



Basically, Cooper absolutely murders in the slot. While he's functioned almost entirely as a boundary receiver in a year and a half with Dallas, that's because we've had no one else who could credibly take snaps out the outside while Cooper exploits mismatches inside. Lamb's that dude.

This isn't to say that Coop's not going to start at X and still play a ton of snaps there, but it could open up a very dangerous wrinkle and put our $100 million man in more positions to succeed.
Move him around, helps Dak diagnose if the defense is in man or zone. Create mismatches. Can't wait for Kellen Moore's pre-snap motions to be used for an entire season and not just the 1st quarter of games.
 

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We won't see the real things they do until the real games start. This will be very interesting to see all the different plays from who lines up where. Can you imagine the bunch WR formation also with these 3.
TC and PS games we may get a glimpse or 2, but not the real stuff.

Just imagine an empty set with Jarwin, Coop and Lamb in the slot and Devin Smith and Gallup outside. LOL with that line up every possible route tree is in play.
 

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That’s what I expect
Lamb is a bit like Cooper in that he’s a great route runner
And I suspect he learns a few new tricks from cooper
Also Gallup while not the quick feet guy like they are is very good at running double moves so lamb may learn something there too
I expect both coop and lamb to play slot and I expect a bit more 4 wide this year

4 wide. Maybe. But probably not.

McCarthy was fond of the 4 WR set at times in GB.

However, 4 WR means you either play with a TE or RB. It is rarely the starting TE because he often gets very favorable match ups with 4WR occupying the top dbs.

So that leaves you with playing without s RB. Do you really think we are going to be better with Zeke sitting?

People here complain about decisions based on scheme (see JJ Watt) but you wanna put one of the league's best RB on the bench to serve a certain scheme?

Come on. McCarthy ain't stupid. He played 4 WR (or 3 WR, 2 TE) because he never had a good RB.
 

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This isn't to say that Coop's not going to start at X and still play a ton of snaps there, but it could open up a very dangerous wrinkle and put our $100 million man in more positions to succeed.

Totally agree. The downside on Kellen Moore is that DCs have a year of film to study on him now. The upside is he has a ton of weapons and at WR he can mix and match three WRs all over the field in new inventive ways.

Also on the OP, I wonder how much of Cooper's stats in the slot are about him facing a #3 CB instead of a #1 CB there.
 

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Just imagine an empty set with Jarwin, Coop and Lamb in the slot and Devin Smith and Gallup outside. LOL with that line up every possible route tree is in play.

Any four WR set with Amari, Gallup, Lamb and a burner like Devin Smith will do a lot of damage, especially with Zeke or Pollard able to run WR routes out of the backfield.
 

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You don't get consideration for MVP unless your team is winning 12 games or more. Wasn't going to happen last year. I expect he will be in the mix this year if he plays like he did last year or better.
100% agreed if they win 12-13 games he’ll be in conversation unless it’s zeke year and goes off for 1800
 

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Read an article about Ceedee Lamb today that had an interesting take.



Basically, Cooper absolutely murders in the slot. While he's functioned almost entirely as a boundary receiver in a year and a half with Dallas, that's because we've had no one else who could credibly take snaps out the outside while Cooper exploits mismatches inside. Lamb's that dude.

This isn't to say that Coop's not going to start at X and still play a ton of snaps there, but it could open up a very dangerous wrinkle and put our $100 million man in more positions to succeed.
Eagles fans didn't just hate this pick because they wanted him,, even Eagles fans recognized what you just figured out immediately after we took CD,, but I agree with you.
 

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4 wide. Maybe. But probably not.

McCarthy was fond of the 4 WR set at times in GB.

However, 4 WR means you either play with a TE or RB. It is rarely the starting TE because he often gets very favorable match ups with 4WR occupying the top dbs.

So that leaves you with playing without s RB. Do you really think we are going to be better with Zeke sitting?

People here complain about decisions based on scheme (see JJ Watt) but you wanna put one of the league's best RB on the bench to serve a certain scheme?

Come on. McCarthy ain't stupid. He played 4 WR (or 3 WR, 2 TE) because he never had a good RB.
Jarwin basically is a 4th WR.
 

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So, if a CB1 can't operate in the slot Amari is going to work the CB3. Gallup was beating CB1s last year. If CeeDee can get off press coverage at outside WR vs CB1/CB2 it's a wrap.

Teams need 3 good CBs, and a stout front vs the run...not many teams will even have the personnel to match DAL.
 

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4 wide. Maybe. But probably not.

McCarthy was fond of the 4 WR set at times in GB.

However, 4 WR means you either play with a TE or RB. It is rarely the starting TE because he often gets very favorable match ups with 4WR occupying the top dbs.

So that leaves you with playing without s RB. Do you really think we are going to be better with Zeke sitting?

People here complain about decisions based on scheme (see JJ Watt) but you wanna put one of the league's best RB on the bench to serve a certain scheme?

Come on. McCarthy ain't stupid. He played 4 WR (or 3 WR, 2 TE) because he never had a good RB.
I see Zeke and 4 wide
It’s not something I see them doing a lot but if you run it no huddle and catch them with a favorable matchup I’d use some
 

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use Jarwin to spring Lamb on the quick screen. bring Jarwin across the formation. 3 to lamb or 2 to lamb and cooper. keeps different options
 

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Read an article about Ceedee Lamb today that had an interesting take.



Basically, Cooper absolutely murders in the slot. While he's functioned almost entirely as a boundary receiver in a year and a half with Dallas, that's because we've had no one else who could credibly take snaps out the outside while Cooper exploits mismatches inside. Lamb's that dude.

This isn't to say that Coop's not going to start at X and still play a ton of snaps there, but it could open up a very dangerous wrinkle and put our $100 million man in more positions to succeed.

Being able to switch according to matchup is a huge advantage, but really, given Cooper's route running and quickness, he makes the most sense in the slot where he can break in either direction.

But we *could* have been playing Cooper inside more often last year. We had Cobb to go outside. We had Devin Smith. But "we do what we do".
 

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I see Zeke and 4 wide
It’s not something I see them doing a lot but if you run it no huddle and catch them with a favorable matchup I’d use some

If we're taking Jarwin off the field, I'd rather have Pollard as the 5th man to open up the run game to misdirection and more options behind the LOS.
 

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I believe the plan is to play Lamb in the slot but I've heard MM note how "position flex" at WR position can cause confusion to defenses. I would not be surprised if they employ a rotation in the slot so that Coop and Lamb both get a chance to show what they can do at that slot. It's good to have versatile WRs that are capable of playing any of the WR positions. The Cowboys offense never had that option with Dez around because he was so limited at what routes he could adequately run.

It wasn't just Dez. His size, hands, and strength should have been usable from the slot.

But we were limited because our 3rd WR tended to be a gimmicks like Beasley, Travon, Whitehead, or we just decided we hated guys like Butler or Smith, leaving us with no credible player to take the outside spot in Dez's place.
 
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