If QB are worth 40 mil

TheSkaven · Jun 6, 2020

Yeah, quarterbacks get $40M per year but there’s only one on the field and usually 2 on the active roster. Amari Cooper got $20M per year but you still need 2 more on the field and 5 total.

Bullflop · Jun 6, 2020

The Fonz said:
it is sad when money is a goal not a tool

It's life as we know it. Just because it doesn't seem fair doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Teachers are another a good example. It's a rare commodity that very few individuals are capable of to play football on a professional level. Their supply is extremely limited. Hence the value escalates to something mind-boggling to the average individual.

If the supply is that limited, the monetary rewards reflect it. That's just life in a capitalistic society. Fair really isn't a factor at all in the real world, as we know it. The socialistic societies surely have drawbacks of their own, also. Their extremely demanding taxes are certainly a reflection of that sad fact.

Jarv · Jun 6, 2020

ghst187 said:
I agree, maybe a cap like NBAs Supermax with a hometown advantage

Can you explain that a little more please? I don't follow the NBA anymore but heard they did have some exemptions?

I was thinking maybe have 1 player per team cap free.

ghst187 · Jun 6, 2020

Jarv said:
Can you explain that a little more please? I don't follow the NBA anymore but heard they did have some exemptions?

I was thinking maybe have 1 player per team cap free.

What is a supermax contract? Officially known as the "Designated Veteran Player Extension," this rule allows teams to re-sign qualified players to maximum five-year contracts worth up to 35 percent of the salary cap with eight percent escalation in each subsequent year.

The NBA also gives the home team the right contractually to offer the highest money which can help drafting teams keep key players if they want. Or at least give them an advantage.

nontheless the contract for any star player has a ceiling cap that no one can exceed. 35% is pretty high for the NFL but could make it like 25 or so. Anyway, I like the concept.

Fastpitch Dad · Jun 6, 2020

Clove said:
Maybe we should put a cap on Billionaire salaries?

Without these billionaires putting their money up there would be no NFL.

They have made many people millionaires who might not have had that chance if the evil rich guys didn't buy these teams. I don't get the dislike for people who have busted their butts to become rich, or someone before them in their family did it.

Jarv · Jun 6, 2020

ghst187 said:
What is a supermax contract? Officially known as the "Designated Veteran Player Extension," this rule allows teams to re-sign qualified players to maximum five-year contracts worth up to 35 percent of the salary cap with eight percent escalation in each subsequent year.

The NBA also gives the home team the right contractually to offer the highest money which can help drafting teams keep key players if they want. Or at least give them an advantage.

nontheless the contract for any star player has a ceiling cap that no one can exceed. 35% is pretty high for the NFL but could make it like 25 or so. Anyway, I like the concept.

Thank you sir, interesting concept.

The only thing I would say is that 25% of a 53 man roster is a lot higher than 35% of a basketball roster, is it 12 players, which makes the football roster at least 4X that of a BB team. Very rough math would say 25% of 35%, or about 8.75% of the team cap space.

None the less, thanks for the information!

Fastpitch Dad · Jun 6, 2020

Bullflop said:
It's life as we know it. Just because it doesn't seem fair doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Teachers are another a good example. It's a rare commodity that very few individuals are capable of to play football on a professional level. Their supply is extremely limited. Hence the value escalates to something mind-boggling to the average individual.

If the supply is that limited, the monetary rewards reflect it. That's just life in a capitalistic society. Fair really isn't a factor at all in the real world, as we know it. The socialistic societies surely have drawbacks of their own, also. Their extremely demanding taxes are certainly a reflection of that sad fact.

Excellent post!

My daughter that's an RN makes much more money than my daughter who is a teacher. Nurses are always in high demand and she can pick and choose which job she wants.

Hadenough · Jun 6, 2020

Xeven said:
Then there should probably be a NFLQB salary Cap for same reason they established the original Caps.

If you must have an elite QB to compete at 40 mil per year how does that make the NFL more competitive?

The salary cap has turned into a joke when your average QB wants elite money. It totally defeats the point of the cap.
Maybe the NFL should just shut down and let all these QBs go out and find a regular job like the rest of the world does.

Bullflop · Jun 6, 2020

Fastpitch Dad said:
Excellent post!

My daughter that's an RN makes much more money than my daughter who is a teacher. Nurses are always in high demand and she can pick and choose which job she wants.

My niece is an RN as well. That same scenario applies to her. She lives well.

My nephew is a degreed welfare worker who makes far less.

It's really a pretty strange world that we live in!

Jeffkills · Jun 6, 2020

Remember how great it was before the cap?

Thanks for that one, Jerry..

Now he's a money-grubber; not as bad as Dak, but still pretty damn bad!

glimmerman · Jun 6, 2020

Been saying for years that they should cap positions and all positions should go up equally as the salary cap goes up most every year. When mahomes gets his deal the QB market may jump up as much as 5 million a year. Dak will likely get 35 a year. I think mahomes will break or get 40.

TheMarathonContinues · Jun 6, 2020

The Fonz said:
In my book no entertainer should be paid even half f that money

So where should the money go. The owner should get all the billions and the players should get nothing? Make it make sense....

CowboysFaninHouston · Jun 6, 2020

Xeven said:
Then there should probably be a NFLQB salary Cap for same reason they established the original Caps.

If you must have an elite QB to compete at 40 mil per year how does that make the NFL more competitive?

if the numbers are at 40 or above, then its the market and teams have to figure it out. the cap is the same for everyone, so somehow, someway teams will have to figure out how to pay QBs and still remain competitive and under the cap.

its not a cowboys problem, its 32 teams problem. that's why there is such a premium on draft and finding the right QB in the draft and having a chance to win in the first 4, 5 years on a rookie deal, but even that's a big big big gamble. You have seen Denver, draft QB after QB, move really quickly to try and find the next one and try and keep some talent together to compete. but it hasn't paid off. they havent' found the one. having the QB is the easiest way to get to the superbowl. its simply the most important position and thus what we see today.

CowboyRoy · Jun 6, 2020

Xeven said:
Then there should probably be a NFLQB salary Cap for same reason they established the original Caps.

If you must have an elite QB to compete at 40 mil per year how does that make the NFL more competitive?

Name one QB that is paid 40 million or close to it.

big dog cowboy · Jun 6, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
Name one QB that is paid 40 million or close to it.

The NFL is full of them. Here, I'll make a list........

:laugh:

Bobhaze · Jun 6, 2020

Jake said:
Your book seems arbitrary. If an employee is raking in big bucks for his/her employer, why should they be capped? Because you and I will never see that kind of money?

The owners/producers are making bank off the work of the performers. I can't see any reason other than jealousy to have a gripe with the performers' cut.

The owners have an unlimited window of opportunity to make money. The players have 5-10 years if they’re lucky.

buybuydandavis · Jun 6, 2020

Xeven said:
Then there should probably be a NFLQB salary Cap for same reason they established the original Caps.

If you must have an elite QB to compete at 40 mil per year how does that make the NFL more competitive?

Bad for league competitiveness.

Teams have an equal cap pool to compete with. If they set a ceiling on the maximum cap% for QBs, they distort the market for QBs. Now teams *can't* compete for the best QBs through their contracts, so they have to compete through other things that the league *can't* control and equalize, which tend to be *stable* advantages in coaching staffs, marketing opportunities, or taxes.

CowboysFaninHouston · Jun 6, 2020

Hadenough said:
The salary cap has turned into a joke when your average QB wants elite money. It totally defeats the point of the cap.
Maybe the NFL should just shut down and let all these QBs go out and find a regular job like the rest of the world does.

elite money? what is elite money? what's average.....reality is different than the average fans want of a football...

CowboyRoy · Jun 6, 2020

big dog cowboy said:
The NFL is full of them. Here, I'll make a list........

Boggles the mind how ridiculous some of these threads are.

conner01 · Jun 6, 2020

Xeven said:
Then there should probably be a NFLQB salary Cap for same reason they established the original Caps.

If you must have an elite QB to compete at 40 mil per year how does that make the NFL more competitive?

Has an NFL QB ask for 40 mil?
I’ve never seen one ask yet but I keep seeing these stories
Like Bigfoot, we hear about him but only a few have ever seen him, and most of them were drinking at the time

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