If the best Landry team played the best Jimmy team, who ya got?

kskboys · Jun 7, 2020

Whirlwin said:
Do you think they would’ve beat the Steelers. In the 70s. Smith doesn’t drop the football in the Endzone best team ever.

Not to mention the phantom PI on Barnes.

ksadler1 · Jun 7, 2020

Jimmy's best team would win and it wouldn't be close...

ottawacowpoke · Jun 7, 2020

I’d take the ‘92 Cowboys and I don’t think it’s even close.

kskboys · Jun 7, 2020

ottawacowpoke said:
I’d take the ‘92 Cowboys and I don’t think it’s even close.

They were just that dominant.

CouchCoach · Jun 7, 2020

Whirlwin said:
Do you think they would’ve beat the Steelers. In the 70s. Smith doesn’t drop the football in the Endzone best team ever.

That play is often overplayed as it wasn't the last play. We do not know how they would have altered their game plan had he caught that pass.

I lien that to the catch/no, it is not of Bryant in GB. Many erroneously think the Cowboys win that game if that's a catch. They couldn't stop Rodgers and the GB O all day and couldn't stop them from running out the clock moving up the field.

CouchCoach · Jun 7, 2020

kskboys said:
They were just that dominant.

And deep. DL and OL backups would leave and start for other teams. It was the most effective rotation on both sides of the line that the league had ever seen.

kskboys · Jun 7, 2020

CouchCoach said:
That play is often overplayed as it wasn't the last play. We do not know how they would have altered their game plan had he caught that pass.

I lien that to the catch/no, it is not of Bryant in GB. Many erroneously think the Cowboys win that game if that's a catch. They couldn't stop Rodgers and the GB O all day and couldn't stop them from running out the clock moving up the field.

Yeah, that's what fans do. There's always several plays in every close game that could've made the game go either way. We tend to just see it from our side.

kskboys · Jun 7, 2020

CouchCoach said:
And deep. DL and OL backups would leave and start for other teams. It was the most effective rotation on both sides of the line that the league had ever seen.

If all things were equal, I take Landry over Jimmy as HC by a landslide. Landry was just that good.

But, those Jimmy coached super bowl teams were the most dominant teams of all time, IMO. Most people don't even understand how good our D was, shutting down the #1 O of BUFF. That was one of the best O teams of all time.

OmerV · Jun 7, 2020

Whirlwin said:
Do you think they would’ve beat the Steelers. In the 70s. Smith doesn’t drop the football in the Endzone best team ever.

That hurt, but that play alone didn’t lose the game. That would have just tied the game and there was still a couple of minutes in the 3rd quarter and all of the 4th quarter left to play.

Diehardblues · Jun 7, 2020

CouchCoach said:
The Johnson team because that 92/93 team is in the running for GOAT. Depth wise, it was.

And the fact they went Back to Back.

Landry had two different opportunities to do it and didn’t.

Diehardblues · Jun 7, 2020

kskboys said:
If all things were equal, I take Landry over Jimmy as HC by a landslide. Landry was just that good.

But, those Jimmy coached super bowl teams were the most dominant teams of all time, IMO. Most people don't even understand how good our D was, shutting down the #1 O of BUFF. That was one of the best O teams of all time.

Yea but I’m not sure how much more dominating we could have been defensively in SB VI. SB XII Defense was dominating as well. Morton had like a Zero QB rating I think. Lol

I think we forget how great they were back then. Not to take away from 90’s but I think all they could be is best of their era or in those seasons and both eras were.

dwmyers · Jun 7, 2020

In comparing teams across eras, you have the issue that size and speed changes markedly. The late 1940s Philadelphia Eagles teams had tackles that weighed 220 pounds.
In the 1960s, OL and DL tended to weigh about 240-260, which is why a 1960s 240lb linebacker was a specimen. The 1970s teams had linemen in the 260 range and the
1990s team had a OL over 300 pounds. The game would look like those Riggins Commanders teams stomping on mid 1980s Cowboys teams, except worse, as the 1990s Boys
were a bigger team.

It's not hard to see. Watch some video of the 1970s Super Bowls and then watch the 1992 game.

D-

Diehardblues · Jun 7, 2020

OmerV said:
That hurt, but that play alone didn’t lose the game. That would have just tied the game and there was still a couple of minutes in the 3rd quarter and all of the 4th quarter left to play.

Yea , that game wasn’t as close as score indicates. We scored 2TD’s late or would have been a blowout. We actually had a better shot of winning SB X. And we didn’t have as good of team then.

SB XIII our defense wasn’t as dominating and we had no answer for Bradshaw or Franco.

Diehardblues · Jun 7, 2020

dwmyers said:
In comparing teams across eras, you have the issue that size and speed changes markedly. The late 1940s Philadelphia Eagles teams had tackles that weighed 220 pounds.
In the 1960s, OL and DL tended to weigh about 240-260, which is why a 1960s 240lb linebacker was a specimen. The 1970s teams had linemen in the 260 range and the
1990s team had a OL over 300 pounds. The game would look like those Riggins Commanders teams stomping on mid 1980s Cowboys teams, except worse, as the 1990s Boys
were a bigger team.

It's not hard to see. Watch some video of the 1970s Super Bowls and then watch the 1992 game.

D-

Yep

All you can be is the best of your era. Comparing eras is flawed.

We had an opportunity to be best of 70’s but we couldn’t beat the team that ultimately became best in 70’s. And why results matter.

I’d take the 70’s era over the 90’s but for 4 years that was the best team in Cowboys history.

MWH1967 · Jun 7, 2020

ThatJerryKid said:
I would take Jimmy’s best Cowboys team vs any football team in the history of the universe.....

85 Bears?

ottawacowpoke · Jun 7, 2020

kskboys said:
If all things were equal, I take Landry over Jimmy as HC by a landslide. Landry was just that good.

But, those Jimmy coached super bowl teams were the most dominant teams of all time, IMO. Most people don't even understand how good our D was, shutting down the #1 O of BUFF. That was one of the best O teams of all time.

Landry was a better Xs and Os guy but Jimmy is one of the best ever at evaluating talent. There’s no way Jimmy would have been undecided between Morton and Staubach like Landry was. Alternating the two in Chicago was a low point for Landry.

cern · Jun 7, 2020

what i found most interesting was the philosophical difference between jimmy and tom. tom stated he didn't think it was his job to motivate his players as they were grown men and should be able to do that themselves. jimmy, on the other hand, said his most important job as a head coach was to motivate his players. good players and good coaching aside, i have to agree with jimmy's pov.

12+88=7 · Jun 7, 2020

With 30 years of players for Landry you could probably have the "A" squad and the "B" squad.

The sheer number of great players coming in waves would just overwhelm the '90s teams. Sort of like ants attacking a larger opponent.

I go with Landry.

Williamsboys · Jun 7, 2020

We're talking a decent period of time in between teams, players got bigger, stronger and faster, No offence Tom but I have to go with the '90's squad.

Diehardblues · Jun 7, 2020

cern said:
what i found most interesting was the philosophical difference between jimmy and tom. tom stated he didn't think it was his job to motivate his players as they were grown men and should be able to do that themselves. jimmy, on the other hand, said his most important job as a head coach was to motivate his players. good players and good coaching aside, i have to agree with jimmy's pov.

Great point . The two HC’s history is critical to that point of view. Both represented a different era in sports.

Jimmy a philosophy major spending most of his career in college felt motivation was a critical part in coaching. His teams had that championship swagger at U of Miami that by some was considered intimidating, taunting and at times bordering flagrant. He brought some of that emotional mentality to Dallas which is probably more enjoyable for fans to embrace.

Landry an engineer major spending all of his coaching in professional level beginning as a player/ coach took a more stoic almost mechanical unemotional approach. He felt execution, hard work , discipline and finesse were the keys to success that fans struggled more embracing.

If the best Landry team played the best Jimmy team, who ya got?

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