Michael Irvin says Cowboys owe Dak 'back pay'

Bigdog · Jun 8, 2020

Sometimes these athletes don’t live in reality world. If I went to my boss and told them that I should get back pay for all the money I have brought to the company, they would laugh me right out the room maybe with a pink slip.

CouchCoach · Jun 8, 2020

Just another reason I never listen to anything Irvin says.

ABQCOWBOY · Jun 8, 2020

Qcard said:
Michael wouldn't say this unless the sentiment was already prevailing amongst past and current players.

This is a new Era!!

There are bigger things than Football going on.

NFL teams that don't aggressively act like they know and recognize the new normal will lose not only $$$ but a significant size of fanbase..

I honestly don't see this. The popularity of the NFL, IMO, isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Attendance might be down in the short term but Football is king.

JMO

Northern_Cowboy · Jun 8, 2020

Cowboys owe him nothing, they offerred him a deal (more than he was worth if you ask me) before the start of the 2019 season that was right in line (if not a little more) than what Goff and Wentz signed for. Dak and his agents turned it down. That was their choice the Cowboys made him a fair offer after his 3rd season. What happens now (new deal or tag) falls squarely on Dak's shoulders

aikemirv · Jun 8, 2020

Northern_Cowboy said:
Cowboys owe him nothing, they offerred him a deal (more than he was worth if you ask me) before the start of the 2019 season that was right in line (if not a little more) than what Goff and Wentz signed for. Dak and his agents turned it down. That was their choice the Cowboys made him a fair offer after his 3rd season. What happens now (new deal or tag) falls squarely on Dak's shoulders

Absolutely correct!

Dak turned down his back pay!

glimmerman · Jun 8, 2020

He got paid the scale of where he was drafted. Like every other player. He is welcome to sign his contract that’s offered right now and likely be the highest paid QB in the NFL. Until mahomes gets paid.

erod · Jun 8, 2020

You never contractually pay people for what they did. You pay them for what they're going to do.

CowboyRoy · Jun 8, 2020

Hawkeye0202 said:
Michael Irvin says Cowboys owe Dak Prescott 'back pay' for 'stealing' four years of his career

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/michael-irvin-says-cowboys-owe-dak-prescott-back-pay-for-stealing-four-years-of-his-career/?fbclid=Iw

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...ak-prescott-back-pay-for-his-years-being-unde

In other words, Irvin is firmly of the belief that Dallas needs to pony up the dough.

Not literally, but figuratively he is right. Been playing for 4 years for way under Market. Could have gotten hurt in any of those 4 years and ended his career before he made diddly with his salary.

dogunwo · Jun 8, 2020

ScipioCowboy said:
I don’t fault Dak for his contract demands. He has every right to get everything he can. On the flip side, there’s no such thing as backpay. He agreed to the contract when he entered the draft.

I understand what you are saying, but this is an unfair take as rookie contracts are slotted. He had no choice but really to agree or not play in the NFL which is kind of ridiculous alternative.

Northern_Cowboy · Jun 8, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
Not literally, but figuratively he is right. Been playing for 4 years for way under Market. Could have gotten hurt in any of those 4 years and ended his career before he made diddly with his salary.

He played that 4th year with a low salary of his own choice. The Cowboys did reportedly offer him a deal in the 32-24m range (along the lines of Goff and Wentz) after his 3rd season, he turned it down so that 4th season is on him

aikemirv · Jun 8, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
Not literally, but figuratively he is right. Been playing for 4 years for way under Market. Could have gotten hurt in any of those 4 years and ended his career before he made diddly with his salary.

Just a quick comparison on what you get paid as a Cowboys QB. Andy Dalton, who arguably had as good or better first 4 years than Dak earned 1 million in endorsements in 2015- directly after that successful run.

Dak Prescott makes a reported 50 million in endorsements after his successful 4 year run..... :thumbup:

So, back pay some of that Mike! Dak should be thanking his lucky stars!

Reid1boys · Jun 8, 2020

it was the older players that sold out the younger players. Old guys said you young pups will get paid peanuts until you prove it and EARN a bigger payday. Isnt that exactly what is happening? So no way in hell do the Cowboys owe dak anything.

alicetooljam · Jun 8, 2020

rocyaice said:
Most 4th round quarterbacks aren’t as good as Dak either.

Most starting rookie QBs dont come to a team with a loaded offensive line and that many weapons....point being Dallas doesnt owe him (or anyone) any back pay. Your draft selection and how you got there is on you (the team selecting you had nothing to do with your college career/success)..not to mention they made him a household name by his first regular season game of his rookie year. Youre welcome, Dak.

CowboyRoy · Jun 8, 2020

Northern_Cowboy said:
He played that 4th year with a low salary of his own choice. The Cowboys did reportedly offer him a deal in the 32-24m range (along the lines of Goff and Wentz) after his 3rd season, he turned it down so that 4th season is on him

Maybe 4th season. But if they low balled him, I wouldn't have taken it either.

Northern_Cowboy · Jun 8, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
Maybe 4th season. But if they low balled him, I wouldn't have taken it either.

If he was low balled for sure he turns it down but the reporting says it was 32-34m range in line with Goff and Wentz, i just didn't see how much the reported guarantees were, at any rate he was offerred a deal after his 3rd season

Hadenough · Jun 8, 2020

Dak should be grateful he had a chance to play in the NFL. Nothing is owed to these rookies. Your play earns you a new contract and in Daks case he would have one if he wasn't trying to set the market.

CowboyRoy · Jun 8, 2020

Northern_Cowboy said:
If he was low balled for sure he turns it down but the reporting says it was 32-34m range in line with Goff and Wentz, i just didn't see how much the reported guarantees were, at any rate he was offerred a deal after his 3rd season

yah, but I think they were saying like 7 years and stuff like that. Either way, he has been underpaid for what he has been doing.

Super_Kazuya · Jun 8, 2020

Irvin is being pretty stupid, the contract was signed in good faith. If Dak was the backup the entire time and never played a snap, he would have also gotten every dollar provided he was kept on the roster. Now if Dak wants to make up for money lost, I certainly don't begrudge him that. But expecting back pay is pretty silly. With that said, athletes have gotten what was essentially "back pay" before, but I can only really remember it happening in baseball (where there's no salary cap).

Northern_Cowboy · Jun 8, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
yah, but I think they were saying like 7 years and stuff like that. Either way, he has been underpaid for what he has been doing.

it possible and we all know he wasn't going to sign a deal like that but again while he overperformed his rookie contract he was offerred a deal after 3 years which at the time would have put him at the top of the league in salary, so all this talk about back pay is ridiculous if you ask me, he turned down a deal or stopped negotiating or whatever and decided to play his rookie deal out. He is owed nothing except good faith negotiations by the team and by his management at this point

RandyOh · Jun 8, 2020

CeeDee Lamb please become the greatest Cowboys receiver in team history so we don't need to hear Irvins silly billy opinions forever.

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