Romo skipped on ESPN's NFCE All-Decade team littered with Cowboys

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romo battled two insurmountable problems during his career. garrett and the glitch. in 2014 when murray was running wild, romo threw less, the offense was more balanced, and the affects of the glitch significantly lessened. a lesson unnoticed by garrett.
 

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I can live with the idea that some would rate him better because of longevity. I can live with the idea that some would rate him better because his team won two Super Bowls. But anyone who thinks Eli was a better QB than Romo has a poor understanding of individual vs. team IMO.

Eli's team accomplished things Romo's team was unable to do. That doesn't make him a better quarterback just puts him in a better situation.

It's like saying Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino because Dilfer's team won a Super Bowl and Marino's didn't. Marino was 8-10 in the playoffs; Dilfer was 5-1.
I’m not sure Romo would have done as much or more with Giants as Eli did. Eli made some big throws in those playoff runs to the Super Bowl. All pure speculation of course.
 

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Well, there is that too.
ESPN is like Guitar Center. You walk into GC looking for anything related with guitars and you'll quickly discover that you know more about guitars than just about anyone that works there.
 

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Eli Sucks
The Manning’s are the 1st family of the NFL.

Can’t think of another family that represents everything that’s great about the NFL.

Hope I live long enough to see Archie’s grandsons .
 

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Look man, I watched every game Romo played, and while he could be a magical QB at times, whether you like it or, he was known for doing uncannily stupid stuff at horrible times.
I can show me many examples and if you think back, many fans and players alike would always say just give Romo time he will mess things up..




eli was known for doing uncanilly stupid stuff at all times.

Crazy what people choose to remember.
 

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Wonder which D Romo would have preferred to play with? A good D, the QB's best friend, can allow him to play within himself and not force it, not feel every drive must end up in points.

Unlike Staubach and Aikman, Romo never had a D that carry their jocks.

The Giants continued to play the game of the 70's and 90's Cowboys, balance. The Cowboys have been unbalanced for 20 years and not many QB's would have been successful with that.
 

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Wonder which D Romo would have preferred to play with? A good D, the QB's best friend, can allow him to play within himself and not force it, not feel every drive must end up in points.

Unlike Staubach and Aikman, Romo never had a D that carry their jocks.

The Giants continued to play the game of the 70's and 90's Cowboys, balance. The Cowboys have been unbalanced for 20 years and not many QB's would have been successful with that.
Romo played in a passing era where defense didn't mean nearly as much as it did prior. Having a good defense wouldn't save Romo. Now maybe having a historically great one would've. He would've benefited greatly off of that. But hell even Trent Dilfer benefitted off that.
 

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Romo skipped on ESPN's NFCE All-Decade team littered with Cowboys
By Tony Thompson


The 2010 portion of the Dallas Cowboys lauded history can be summed up in one word: underwhelming. A roster usually filled with talent constantly underperformed, a description that has become the hallmark of the bygone Jason Garrett era. The club was only able to reach the divisional round three times in 10 years, once by virtue of a wild-card bye, but was never able to reach a championship game.

The NFC East beat writers at ESPN voted on an all-decade divisional team. and it is littered with Cowboys. Of the 25 available spots, 10 of them hail from Dallas. The one player missing is former quarterback Tony Romo, who misses out on the top spot to Eli Manning of the New York Giants.

The difference is in the ring.

Manning captured a Lombardi trophy in 2011 while Romo and the Cowboys made the playoffs in just one season before injuries took over and Dak Prescott ascended. But outside of the improbable 2011 playoff run for the Giants and Manning, there’s no question who played the position at a higher level.

In terms of efficiency, Romo outshines Manning in every respect, boasting superior numbers across the board, image and numbers courtesy of Pro Football Reference.

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But while Romo was undoubtedly better when he was available, the problem is he just wasn’t for the last half of the decade. Manning’s pure volume numbers lay waste to Romo, one of the most snake-bitten players of his time. With the Super Bowl acting as a cherry on top, it’s tough to argue against the Manning taking that spot.

The Dallas Cowboys who did make the list:

  • Running back Ezekiel Elliott
  • Wide receiver Dez Bryant
  • Offensive tackle Tyron Smith
  • Center Travis Frederick
  • Guard Zack Martin
  • Tight end Jason Witten
  • Defensive end DeMarcus Lawrence
  • Linebacker Sean Lee
  • Linebacker DeMarcus Ware
  • Kicker Dan Bailey
https://cowboyswire-usatoday-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/cowboyswire.usatoday.com/2020/06/16/dallas-cowboys-nfc-east-espn-all-decade-team-2020-tony-romo-eli-manning/amp/?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA=#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/2020/06/16/dallas-cowboys-nfc-east-espn-all-decade-team-2020-tony-romo-eli-manning/

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I can't see how a few of those Cowboys make an all decade when like Zeke, he's only played 4 years. Lawrence? Really?
 

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Romo played in a passing era where defense didn't mean nearly as much as it did prior. Having a good defense wouldn't save Romo. Now maybe having a historically great one would've. He would've benefited greatly off of that. But hell even Trent Dilfer benefitted off that.
One thing OC's and QB's know going into a game, how many points they think it's going to take to win the game.

Do you think Romo ever thought he wasn't going to have to drive it into the 30's based on his D as well as the other team's offensive prowess?

It's a lot easier on QB's like McMahon, Dilfer and Johnston when they know their D is going to hold, not nearly the pressure. Manning had that in NY, once his DL got healthy, I don't think any team was going to stop them and DAL, GB and an 18-0 NE bore that out.
 

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One thing OC's and QB's know going into a game, how many points they think it's going to take to win the game.

Do you think Romo ever thought he wasn't going to have to drive it into the 30's based on his D as well as the other team's offensive prowess?

It's a lot easier on QB's like McMahon, Dilfer and Johnston when they know their D is going to hold, not nearly the pressure. Manning had that in NY, once his DL got healthy, I don't think any team was going to stop them and DAL, GB and an 18-0 NE bore that out.
That's every quarterback in this passing era though lol. Any given year there are probably 2 or 3 quarterbacks who feel they don't have to score in the 30's to win. Very small list. Eli did not have great defenses despite having some good defensive lines.
 

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I’m not sure Romo would have done as much or more with Giants as Eli did. Eli made some big throws in those playoff runs to the Super Bowl. All pure speculation of course.

It's hard to know. Super Bowl seasons take a lot of things falling in place all at the same time. All I know is that there were some games during the regular season where Eli made enough mistakes for the Giants to lose and not even make the playoffs, but his defense saved him. That's what you've got to have.

Some on here hold every mistake Romo made against him, but the only reason they do that is because Romo couldn't afford to make mistakes. Every quarterback has them, but the ones in victories rarely get remembered while the ones in losses become bigger than they actually were. It doesn't matter if you throw an interception if your defense holds. If your defense doesn't hold, then the interception is the reason for the loss no matter how you played otherwise.
 

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Ehhh. At being a very good QB for maybe
5-6 seasons but Eli was a Championship Big Game QB. Romo never was....

He was on a championship big-game team, at least.

I’m not trying to sleight Eli. He’s a good player. Romo was just a lot better.
 

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Funny how 3 of Daks linemen are there and his RB. Basically tells the whole story. While people still want to pretend Romo's teams were just as good. No Murray on here? What a shock. Figured that one good year would've did it.

Eli Had a duo in Jacobs and Bradshaw regularly top 10 in rushing TDs.. We can also pretend Romo had that too. lmao. By the way, Murrays 1 good year, Romo was 34. Another dumazz ranking that means nothing.
 

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We all know Romo was the better QB but Eli got it done lucky or not and won SB. I can't argue with ESPN on this one.
Nothing lucky about beating Tom Brady and Belicheat in both Super Bowls and being the MVP in both. Eli will be in the HOF for derailing the NE dynasty twice with two MVPs. No Other team or player accomplished that.
 

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Romo skipped on ESPN's NFCE All-Decade team littered with Cowboys
By Tony Thompson

The one player missing is former quarterback Tony Romo, who misses out on the top spot to Eli Manning of the New York Giants.

The difference is in the ring.

Manning captured a Lombardi trophy in 2011 while Romo and the Cowboys made the playoffs in just one season before injuries took over and Dak Prescott ascended. But outside of the improbable 2011 playoff run for the Giants and Manning, there’s no question who played the position at a higher level.

In terms of efficiency, Romo outshines Manning in every respect, boasting superior numbers across the board, image and numbers courtesy of Pro Football Reference.

romomanning.png


But while Romo was undoubtedly better when he was available, the problem is he just wasn’t for the last half of the decade. Manning’s pure volume numbers lay waste to Romo, one of the most snake-bitten players of his time. With the Super Bowl acting as a cherry on top, it’s tough to argue against the Manning taking that spot.

Tony over Fredo Manning. Totally.

Fredo is in because of dullards who think that QBs determine the record of the entire team.
 
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