Romo skipped on ESPN's NFCE All-Decade team littered with Cowboys

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this list jsut goes to show how bad the coaching was for the dallas cowboys in that time span jerry jones was totally stupid to keep jason garrett around for that long of a time so much waste makes one sick
 

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LOL what????
you point to a game in which Romo out-dueled Peyton Manning and put up 48 points, while his defense gave up 51, as a mark AGAINST Romo?
now i know we're in the twilight zone.
we have the worst fans.
Lol.
Please don’t jump on my one bad example. Please answer the meat of the question.
The vast majority of Cowboy fans did not shed a tear for Romo retiring.
We had some fun times, nothing meaningful in terms of winning.
 

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LOL, is this real life? If you are just going to list the final game of every season that didn’t end in a Super Bowl then every QB in NFL history is going to have a list as long as their arm. We need an IQ test for this board, pronto.
Not all of these were last games. Dude at least win one.
At least get to a championship game,
At least win a playoff game two years in a row.
What’s is the requirement for a good Qb? Take off your Romo love glasses and be objective.
 

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Not all of these were last games. Dude at least win one.
At least get to a championship game,
At least win a playoff game two years in a row.
What’s is the requirement for a good Qb? Take off your Romo love glasses and be objective.
I mean I know you're trolling, but at least try to make a decent post. Get someone who finished elementary school to at least vet some of these ridiculous ideas that come out of your head. It's embarrassing.
A 2011 AFC road game played in week 1 is a big game? You typed that and thought it made sense?
Let's see, in 2009 the Cowboys trailed the Eagles by a game in the division with 3 to play. They beat the 13-0 Saints, the Skins I believe, then Eagles in the final week to win the division and home field, and then the Eagles again in the first round of the playoffs. So they needed to win out, and did, sounds like they won 4 big games in a row there. Your brain dead analysis of 2009: Durr... lost to Minnesota, FAIL
You're a joke.
 

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It stinks for sure. Tony was on some subpar teams.

As an example, Tony NEVER had a defense that would hold the patriots to fewer than 17 points.

when Mannings excellent offensive line broke down along with his defense starting in 2012 He could not even get to the playoffs.

I think Manning is a first ballot hall of famer but that was a championship team because of its lines and its coaching staff. Just like Aikman's teams.
 

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I really liked Romo but as I have always said, stats are great, but all that really matters is results. Eli-led teams got them, Romo-led teams did not.

Wow this is hilarious. To show you how ignorant you are and how little you understand the game let me rephrase this for you.

I really liked Marino but as I have always said, stats are great, but all that really matters is results. Dilfer-led teams got them, Marino-led teams did not.

I really liked Dan Fouts but as I have always said, stats are great, but all that really matters is results. Brad Johnson led teams got them, Fouts did not.

I really liked Warren Moon but as I have always said, stats are great, but all that really matters is results. Nick Foles led teams got them, Moon did not.
 

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when Mannings excellent offensive line broke down along with his defense starting in 2012 He could not even get to the playoffs.

I think Manning is a first ballot hall of famer but that was a championship team because of its lines and its coaching staff. Just like Aikman's teams.


Rushing TDs ranked.. 2007 to 2012

Cowboys 10,22,17,21,30,27
Giants 7,8,16,6,6,5


This is what won Super Bowls. Cowboys on the other hand were a one dimensional football team. Giants in the top 8 five times in those 6 years. Probably close to double the rushing TDs.
 
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Rushing TDs ranked.. 2007 to 2012

Cowboys 10,22,17,21,30,27
Giants 7,8,16,6,6,5


This is what won Super Bowls. Cowboys on the other hand were a one dimensional football team. Giants in the top 8 five times in those 6 years. Probably close to double the rushing TDs.

The giants were able to run the ball because they had a fantastic offensive line. Big, powerful and smart. The defensive line was the same with incredible athleticism. Of course like all championship teams they had luck on their side also at some critical moments.

If miles austin doesn't lose a ball in the lights he catches a 60 yard TD that essentially wins the east for Dallas in december of 2011.

in 2007 the giants had luck in spades. The bills had them beat in December of 07 and a perfectly thrown ball hit lee evans in the chest, bounced up in the air and the giants caught it and scored. That was how december and then january went for them.

The 2007 giants were 3-5 at home and 7-1 on the road with their only road loss being at Dallas in week 1.

The big thing about this debate that people always overlook because they all hate Romo is that Eli Manning played in a stable situation. Tom Coughlin was in charge and there was no question. Stuff happened and Coughlin handled it.

In Dallas Romo had to deal with Parcells leaving then Wade Phillips being hired and showing complete incompetence from early on in being the guy in charge. They went from having a better version of Tom Coughlin to Wade Phillips. It created all kinds of issues and as time went on they came to the forefront. Not to mention The Jones family predicting super bowl every year and the entire world using you as a pawn for Ratings.

It's night and day. In the fourth quarter of the 07 playoff game coughlin took the ball out of manning's hands, they were terrified he would give the ball up and decided to punt and play defense on the final two possessions. That tells you all you need to know about how that team won.

having said that Manning was fantastic against Green bay in 07 and against San Francisco and Green Bay in 2011. He is a first ballot hall of famer.
 

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The giants were able to run the ball because they had a fantastic offensive line. Big, powerful and smart. The defensive line was the same with incredible athleticism. Of course like all championship teams they had luck on their side also at some critical moments.

If miles austin doesn't lose a ball in the lights he catches a 60 yard TD that essentially wins the east for Dallas in december of 2011.

in 2007 the giants had luck in spades. The bills had them beat in December of 07 and a perfectly thrown ball hit lee evans in the chest, bounced up in the air and the giants caught it and scored. That was how december and then january went for them.

The 2007 giants were 3-5 at home and 7-1 on the road with their only road loss being at Dallas in week 1.

The big thing about this debate that people always overlook because they all hate Romo is that Eli Manning played in a stable situation. Tom Coughlin was in charge and there was no question. Stuff happened and Coughlin handled it.

In Dallas Romo had to deal with Parcells leaving then Wade Phillips being hired and showing complete incompetence from early on in being the guy in charge. They went from having a better version of Tom Coughlin to Wade Phillips. It created all kinds of issues and as time went on they came to the forefront. Not to mention The Jones family predicting super bowl every year and the entire world using you as a pawn for Ratings.

It's night and day. In the fourth quarter of the 07 playoff game coughlin took the ball out of manning's hands, they were terrified he would give the ball up and decided to punt and play defense on the final two possessions. That tells you all you need to know about how that team won.

having said that Manning was fantastic against Green bay in 07 and against San Francisco and Green Bay in 2011. He is a first ballot hall of famer.


Agreed. Not trying to downplay Manning. Just pointing out that the Giants scoring offense didn't just rely on the QB. Cowboys offense was not in the same category. Then when everything went south so many around here blame 1 guy. It takes luck, but also coaching, talent and points on the scoreboard. Jerrys handling of this team and his coaching hires after Parcells did Romo no favors at all. Just sad that there was quality talent here and it went to waste.
 
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Agreed. Not trying to downplay Manning. Just pointing out that the Giants scoring offense didn't just rely on the QB. Cowboys offense was not in the same category. Then when everything went south so may around here blame 1 guy. It takes luck, but also coaching, talent and points on the scoreboard. Jerrys handling of this team and his coaching hires after Parcells did Romo no favors at all. Just sad that there was quality talent here and it went to waste.

Pretty much. It was evident after the 08 season that wade and garrett were not up for this. Getting rid of them and hiring Mike Shannahan that year would have been pretty great.

That 09 offensive line had just enough left in the tank to win. Doug free would have been perfect for shannahan's style.

Free played great against New Orleans and San Diego yet Columbo got his job back...funny How Garrett picked and choosed who lost jobs to injury and who didn't. Free outplayed columbo and brought an athletic element they didn't have. Columbo got destroyed against the vikings just like he did in the second half vs the giants in the 07 playoff game.

anyway. Its 2020.
 

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Wow this is hilarious. To show you how ignorant you are and how little you understand the game let me rephrase this for you.

I really liked Marino but as I have always said, stats are great, but all that really matters is results. Dilfer-led teams got them, Marino-led teams did not.

I really liked Dan Fouts but as I have always said, stats are great, but all that really matters is results. Brad Johnson led teams got them, Fouts did not.

I really liked Warren Moon but as I have always said, stats are great, but all that really matters is results. Nick Foles led teams got them, Moon did not.
Stats are great participation trophies for people who fail to get results.

Do you think Tom Brady cared about his stats for the season leading up to a Super Bowl win?

Do you think Peyton Manning cared that his defense helped the Broncos win a Super Bowl his last season?

Stats are great when you are building toward something. A young player with great stats is something to get excited about .. why? because that player will hopefully get results in the future.

When looking back, there are a lot of professional athletes who never won a championship who would trade their stats in a heartbeat for a championship trophy, ring, etc.

To answer your question though, Romo, Marino, Fouts, Moon, Archie Manning, etc. were all really good quarterbacks, but none of them won a Super Bowl.

You can like and respect a player and their stats, but at the end of their career, they are remembered for their results or lack thereof.

Trent Dilfer was an average quarterback. He won a Super Bowl. Nick Foles was an average quarterback. He won a Super Bowl.

Stats wise, those two were nowhere near the previous quarterbacks I listed, but they led teams to Super Bowl wins, which is all that matters once their career is over.

While players are still playing, stats provide hope and optimism and are great for judging potential. Once their career ends, potential no long matters.
 

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Pretty much. It was evident after the 08 season that wade and garrett were not up for this. Getting rid of them and hiring Mike Shannahan that year would have been pretty great.

That 09 offensive line had just enough left in the tank to win. Doug free would have been perfect for shannahan's style.

Free played great against New Orleans and San Diego yet Columbo got his job back...funny How Garrett picked and choosed who lost jobs to injury and who didn't. Free outplayed columbo and brought an athletic element they didn't have. Columbo got destroyed against the vikings just like he did in the second half vs the giants in the 07 playoff game.

anyway. Its 2020.


Hate to keep harping on the past. Really hoping for the best from McCarthy and Co. I think we finally have a good situation here.
 

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Stats are great participation trophies for people who fail to get results.

Do you think Tom Brady cared about his stats for the season leading up to a Super Bowl win?

Do you think Peyton Manning cared that his defense helped the Broncos win a Super Bowl his last season?

Stats are great when you are building toward something. A young player with great stats is something to get excited about .. why? because that player will hopefully get results in the future.

When looking back, there are a lot of professional athletes who never won a championship who would trade their stats in a heartbeat for a championship trophy, ring, etc.

To answer your question though, Romo, Marino, Fouts, Moon, Archie Manning, etc. were all really good quarterbacks, but none of them won a Super Bowl.

You can like and respect a player and their stats, but at the end of their career, they are remembered for their results or lack thereof.

Trent Dilfer was an average quarterback. He won a Super Bowl. Nick Foles was an average quarterback. He won a Super Bowl.

Stats wise, those two were nowhere near the previous quarterbacks I listed, but they led teams to Super Bowl wins, which is all that matters once their career is over.

While players are still playing, stats provide hope and optimism and are great for judging potential. Once their career ends, potential no long matters.

Unbelievable.

All this to say the only players that matter are the ones that win championships. Good Lord.

Every player would trade all of his "Stats" for championships but the way you portray it means it's the only thing that matters which is really really ignorant.

Also the way you judge stats is basically meaningless. It's like saying quarterback x beat quarterback y this week and actually believing one beat the other instead of one team won the game.

Had Manning had to play against those giants defenses he was going to lose just like had Brady been on the colts with Tony Dungy trying to beat Belichick he would have lost over and over again just like manning and all the other qb's of this era and the two previous ones.

Also what you just described is essentially front running.."I only care about teams/players that win championships" Why be a fan or root for a team? There is a lot of that in this fandom which says pretty much all there is to say.

Also in regards to did manning care about his stats...etc.....Its funny how you do not mention how Romo never cared about his stats at all. he said it all the time he didn't care. None of the great one's do and Romo was one of the great ones, sadly with fans like you and so many others you did not appreciate him and those teams.
 

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Stats are great participation trophies for people who fail to get results.

Do you think Tom Brady cared about his stats for the season leading up to a Super Bowl win?

Do you think Peyton Manning cared that his defense helped the Broncos win a Super Bowl his last season?

Stats are great when you are building toward something. A young player with great stats is something to get excited about .. why? because that player will hopefully get results in the future.

When looking back, there are a lot of professional athletes who never won a championship who would trade their stats in a heartbeat for a championship trophy, ring, etc.

To answer your question though, Romo, Marino, Fouts, Moon, Archie Manning, etc. were all really good quarterbacks, but none of them won a Super Bowl.

You can like and respect a player and their stats, but at the end of their career, they are remembered for their results or lack thereof.

Trent Dilfer was an average quarterback. He won a Super Bowl. Nick Foles was an average quarterback. He won a Super Bowl.

Stats wise, those two were nowhere near the previous quarterbacks I listed, but they led teams to Super Bowl wins, which is all that matters once their career is over.

While players are still playing, stats provide hope and optimism and are great for judging potential. Once their career ends, potential no long matters.


Trent Dilfer, Joe Theisman, Drew Brees

Reality be like - their the same quarterback.
 

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Trent Dilfer, Joe Theisman, Drew Brees

Reality be like - their the same quarterback.
I never said they were the same. If you actually read my post you would know that.

After a quarterback's career is over, I would rather have Super Bowl trophies from their years leading the team than stat accomplishments.

If you care more about stats though, that's great.

I personally prefer Super Bowl wins, but to each their own.
 

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Romo had no SB ring. That dang sheli has rings. Luckiest QB I have ever seen...
Both times he had a very good defense which carried them deep in playoffs and aided by couple of miracle throws and catches. But he won superbowl MVP
 
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