The TE position, OJ Howard. other options

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OMG, a non-Dak thread...how could that be (or did I just make it a Dak thread LOL)….

although most are elated that Witten is gone (I didn't think he was as bad as everyone made him to be, but clearly wasn't the answer), knowing that the team had been looking for his replacement for years. most are excited about Jarwin, and projecting based on fantasy football, etc. for him to get first team reps and just double/triple his out put (half joking)….Jarwin is still green and his game leaves a lot to be desired and we just don't know how he will do as a full time starter, where he doesn't have to line up every down, block and he didn't have to deal with primary defenders and was an after thought on offense and often played against weaker defenders and only succeeded in certain plays......

although we have CD, Coop and Gallup. zeke and pollard, the TE position is lacking both in starter and back up....we signed a FA TE who is primarily a blocker (so his use is predictable).

there was talk about OJ Howard, with Tampa having signed Gronk and paid Brate, Howard maybe the forgotten man. so is he available. can we go after him. what will it take. having Howard who doesn't have great stats, but good and can be a decent blocker and decent receiver with some speed added to the TEs would only make that position into a strength and de-risk Jarwin being the primary and right now the only viable TE on the roster...

so would it be a bad trade sending Lewis to Tampa for Howard? they have a need at CB and we have a need at TE....win win?
 

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so would it be a bad trade sending Lewis to Tampa for Howard? they have a need at CB and we have a need at TE....win win?

Its a really interesting idea since Lewis and Howard are both such wildcards. But with the lockdown preventing minicamps and the coaches not having as much information on Diggs and Robinson (or anyone else in the new scheme), I would think they play it safe and avoid moves like this.
 

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Jarwin will do fine, better than fine but at minimum he will give us what witten had last few years
We aren't looking for what we got from Witten, because it was horrible, we are looking to improve dramatically. And betting on only one viable option who is unproven is a sucker's bet.
 

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Unless we are going to have to cut lewis i'd rather keep the extra CB than another TE.
 

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OMG, a non-Dak thread...how could that be (or did I just make it a Dak thread LOL)….

although most are elated that Witten is gone (I didn't think he was as bad as everyone made him to be, but clearly wasn't the answer), knowing that the team had been looking for his replacement for years. most are excited about Jarwin, and projecting based on fantasy football, etc. for him to get first team reps and just double/triple his out put (half joking)….Jarwin is still green and his game leaves a lot to be desired and we just don't know how he will do as a full time starter, where he doesn't have to line up every down, block and he didn't have to deal with primary defenders and was an after thought on offense and often played against weaker defenders and only succeeded in certain plays......

although we have CD, Coop and Gallup. zeke and pollard, the TE position is lacking both in starter and back up....we signed a FA TE who is primarily a blocker (so his use is predictable).

there was talk about OJ Howard, with Tampa having signed Gronk and paid Brate, Howard maybe the forgotten man. so is he available. can we go after him. what will it take. having Howard who doesn't have great stats, but good and can be a decent blocker and decent receiver with some speed added to the TEs would only make that position into a strength and de-risk Jarwin being the primary and right now the only viable TE on the roster...

so would it be a bad trade sending Lewis to Tampa for Howard? they have a need at CB and we have a need at TE....win win?
Jerry Jones believes in Country Club Members instead of NFL Team Members. Jarwin can not block, Jarwin has never been a no.1 TE anywhere, Jarwin does not have great speed or elite separation, but Jerry likes Jarwin. So Jerry Jones will not bring in a TE like OJ Howard that can out block , has been a no.1 TE at every level, is faster with elite separation, and is younger to take Jarwin's Job through competition.

If this happens (trading/signing OJ Howard), then there is actual real change with M&M as Head Coach.

Country Club Member Stats
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Name: Blake Jarwin
College: Oklahoma State Number: 47
Height: 6-5 Weight: 246
Position: TE Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2017
Combine Results
Pro Day Results
Dates: 03/09/17
Hand: 09 7/8 Arm: 34 1/8
Wingspan: 81 7/8
Height: 6051
Weight: 246
40 Yrd Dash: 4.73
20 Yrd Dash: 2.76
10 Yrd Dash: 1.58
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 21
Vertical Jump: 34 1/2
Broad Jump: 10'01"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.39
3-Cone Drill: 7.44

NFL No.1 TE Stats Non Country Club Member Stats
Selected: Round 1, Pick 19, Overall Pick 19 by Bucs
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Name: O.J. Howard
College: Alabama Number: 88
Height: 6-6 Weight: 251
Position: TE Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2017
Combine Results
Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes
Height: 6055
Weight: 251
40 Yard Dash (ET): 4.51
40 Yard Dash (HH): 4.52
20 Yard (ET): 2.61
20 Yard (HH): 2.54
10 Yard (ET): 1.55
10 Yard (HH): 1.52
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 22
Vertical Jump: 30
Broad Jump: 10'01"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.16
3-Cone Drill: 6.85
 

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We aren't looking for what we got from Witten, because it was horrible, we are looking to improve dramatically. And betting on only one viable option who is unproven is a sucker's bet.
well yeah, but it is what it is. I personally think Jarwin is underrated and will be the guy. If we can find a backup TE somewhere, fine but I wouldn't sell the farm or even a large garden for one at this point.
 

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Jarwin will be just as effective, just run that seam route.

Howard will be available next year in free agency.
 

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Honestly, with our receiving corps, and the assumption we will be throwing more to the RBs, how many balls are left for a TE?
Not to mention shorter WCO routes and screens. We've got Jarwin, and the Belldozer for blocking.
 

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Cheaper options I would look at for tight end include Njoku, Nick Boyle, Vance McDonald, Jordan Akins, Foster Moreau, Adam Shaheen, and Gerald Everett

Isn't Boyle a key blocker for the Ravens?
Thought they value him more than other teams would for more of strictly blocking TE.

You think Moreau would be available this early? He had an impressive TD total last year before injury.

Outside of that, I would still take a flier on shaheen even though he hasn't lived up to any hype
 
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Honestly, with our receiving corps, and the assumption we will be throwing more to the RBs, how many balls are left for a TE?
Not to mention shorter WCO routes and screens. We've got Jarwin, and the Belldozer for blocking.

It should be alot if we had the worst red zone offense in football. Nobody has any 50/50 go up and get a ball skills
 

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Imagine if we had gotten Jared cook last year. We woulda had a great offense. #82 and Jarwin sucked.
 

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OJ Howard has been a bust.
That said I would like him splitting time with Jarwin. I think as a receiving TE Jarwin has something. I worry about his durability though and would not be surprised if he can't last an entire season.

I wouldn't imagine it would cost much for Howard since he will be a FA coming up and someone will overpay him.
 
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