Video: Is Tony Romo a Hall of Famer? Jesse Holley says

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Dick Vermeil.
Are we sure Dick Vermeil is even a good coach? He has as many losing seasons as winning seasons and a worse winning percentage than Garrett. He certainly isn’t a Hall of Fame coach, and while it might seem strange to point that out It really isn’t when you consider how many of the QBs in the Hall played under HOF coaches. Marino, Griese, Montana, Aikman, Starr, Bradshaw, Young, Elway, Staubach, Fouts, Kelly, soon to be both Mannings, and Brady... and that’s just off the top of the head. So it really is something for Warner to make it in if Dick Vermeil was the best coach he ever had.
 

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This is the Daily Troll by the Dak slobberers :facepalm:
We really can’t find any fake Dak propaganda stats on Twitter anymore, can we? Everyone on this forum knows Tony isn’t going to make the Hall of Fame, but yeah let’s have a bunch of brainless Dak slobberers blow off some steam against their strawman.
Aww, it hurts...it hurts so bad. Let's not mention anything about Tony Romo because Super Cuacha gets his ittle brittle feelings all hurt.

Here. Have some candy you poor little thing...

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Do you think if Aikman had been under Switzer the whole time that he would be a Hall of Famer? Two of his Super Bowls were under a Hall of Fame head coach. Switzer went along for the ride on the team Jimmy built, then it collapsed without a new infusion of talent.

You think Ditka was a crappy coach? His team finished first in its division five straight years, went to the NFC Championship Game two years in addition to his Super Bowl year. I'll take that kind of crap. Plus, McMahon is not in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
As much as i detested the man, buddy ryan and his 46 defense were the reasons for ditka's success. I don't consider ditka a good hc. Never did. Troy went to one nfc championship and one superbowl despite switzer.
 

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Wait a minute, "possible game winning throw?"
Come on.
In what world was that perfectly thrown ball not just that.
Threw it, he caught it, but then stretched for the end zone and opened up doubt.
The only reason I said possibly was because ARod may've answered with a couple of minutes left.
 

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If Tony Romo is a Hall of Famer, does he go in before or after Andrew Luck? Luck had more winning seasons, more playoff seasons, playoff wins, more TDs in a season, and more talent that was cut short due to injury and poor coaching.

Excuses, Excuses, Excuses.

No Romo was not better than Luck so what makes him a Hall of Famer besides Jerry Jones being his daddy? Romo may get in due to Jerry Jones getting in before Jimmy Johnson. Jerry will get him in eventually undeserving as he was for what he did for the Dallas Cowboys.
 

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Bill belichick is the highest paid coach at 12 million. Romo makes 42% more without the headaches. You might be right, but i doubt it.

I just think he’s gonna want another chance at a Superbowl at some point.
 

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Are we sure Dick Vermeil is even a good coach? He has as many losing seasons as winning seasons and a worse winning percentage than Garrett. He certainly isn’t a Hall of Fame coach, and while it might seem strange to point that out It really isn’t when you consider how many of the QBs in the Hall played under HOF coaches. Marino, Griese, Montana, Aikman, Starr, Bradshaw, Young, Elway, Staubach, Fouts, Kelly, soon to be both Mannings, and Brady... and that’s just off the top of the head. So it really is something for Warner to make it in if Dick Vermeil was the best coach he ever had.

A lot of things have to happen right for any team to make it to a Super Bowl. Vermeil led two teams to Super Bowls.
 

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Not that I really care to hear Jesse Holley's opinion, I agree with some of it.

Is he HOF bound? Doubtful. Fewer passing TDS than Bledsoe, and 125 more passing yards than Alex Smith. The present-day HOF QBs are guys who play for damn near forever and amass statistics that are out of this world. Super Bowls aside, his numbers just aren't impressive enough, IMO.

The part I agree with was Jason Garrett likely sabotaged his career. How many consecutive years did we see the team fail for 3 quarters, only for Tony to basically carry the team back into contention? All those 8-8 years are pretty much filled with games like that.

Romo isn't a HOF player, but he should definitely go into the ROH.
 

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As much as i detested the man, buddy ryan and his 46 defense were the reasons for ditka's success. I don't consider ditka a good hc. Never did. Troy went to one nfc championship and one superbowl despite switzer.

That Bears defense was something else. Does anyone really think Tony Romo wouldn't have won a Super Bowl with that team? Sometimes the luck of the draw is not on your side, and Romo drew the Joker.
 

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A lot of things have to happen right for any team to make it to a Super Bowl. Vermeil led two teams to Super Bowls.
And apparently a lot of things have to go wrong to lead two teams to four win seasons, as Vermeil did. And let's remember he was Warner's coach for a whopping one whole season.
Besides the argument is somewhat circular. Most QBs in the HOF got there in part because they won a Super Bowl... which means naturally they played for at least one Super Bowl winning coach. Therefore the only ones who can really even be considered for the answer is Fouts, Marino, etc.
 

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I love Romo but no he isn't a HOFer. One SB title and this answer is completely different. But...alas, that is not the reality.
 

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And apparently a lot of things have to go wrong to lead two teams to four win seasons, as Vermeil did. And let's remember he was Warner's coach for a whopping one whole season.
Besides the argument is somewhat circular. Most QBs in the HOF got there in part because they won a Super Bowl... which means naturally they played for at least one Super Bowl winning coach. Therefore the only ones who can really even be considered for the answer is Fouts, Marino, etc.

You are correct. That was sort of my point in my response.

Romo not winning despite crappy coaching is not a good argument for him not being HOF worthy because coaches that take you to Super Bowls are generally not considered crappy.

Fouts and Marino actually had very good coaches and didn't win Super Bowls, which just shows that it's not an easy thing to do and takes more than a great QB and even a very good or great coach.

Fouts says, "He [Don Coryell] influenced offensive and defensive football because if you are going to have three or four receivers out there, you better have an answer for it on the other side of the ball. If it wasn't for Don, I wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame."
 

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You are correct. That was sort of my point in my response.

Romo not winning despite crappy coaching is not a good argument for him not being HOF worthy because coaches that take you to Super Bowls are generally not considered crappy.

Fouts and Marino actually had very good coaches and didn't win Super Bowls, which just shows that it's not an easy thing to do and takes more than a great QB and even a very good or great coach.

Fouts says, "He [Don Coryell] influenced offensive and defensive football because if you are going to have three or four receivers out there, you better have an answer for it on the other side of the ball. If it wasn't for Don, I wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame."
Yes, I mentioned Fouts and Marino in my earlier post listing all of the HOF QBs and how remarkable it was that so many also played with HOF coaches. Shula obviously but now that I looked it up Coryell is not in the HOF, he was a finalist just this year though. He was a great coach.
 

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That Bears defense was something else. Does anyone really think Tony Romo wouldn't have won a Super Bowl with that team? Sometimes the luck of the draw is not on your side, and Romo drew the Joker.
If mcmahon could, romo could. That was an awesome defense.
 

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Yes, I mentioned Fouts and Marino in my earlier post listing all of the HOF QBs and how remarkable it was that so many also played with HOF coaches. Shula obviously but now that I looked it up Coryell is not in the HOF, he was a finalist just this year though. He was a great coach.
When coryell coached st. Louis with jim hart, grey, metcalf and smith he gave landry and the cowboys fits. He was the guy who exposed the weaknesses in the flex defense.
 

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A HOF QB is able to overcome a crappy coach over the course of a decade. I’m a huge Romo fan. How can you possibly grant a QB HOF without reaching a conference championship game? You can’t. It’s completely nonsensical.

Sonny Jurgensen dons a golden jacket while winning exactly ZERO playoff games.
 

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He doesn’t have a ring and he wasn’t a top 5 QB of his era. Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Big Ben should all be placed higher. You can argue he’s better than Ben maybe(I wouldn’t) but not the others. He doesn’t even have a MVP, he was never once considered “the best” at any point of his career.

There are hundreds of quality players that have their career limited due to circumstances out of their control. That’s part of the game and shouldn’t be an argument for the hall of fame.

If Garrett was that bad, Romo should’ve been in Jerry’s ear and not going to sporting events with Jason.

Sometimes I just cannot believe the unrealistic expectations of fans.
 

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His terrible playoff record and 0 championship appearances will hold him out of the HOF. Plus he had some bad seasons whether due to injury or losing records.

Bad coaching is a big part of it but his late game picks will be on those guys mind. Not even including how Cowboy players have to be the absolute best at their position to get in. Look at the long list of Cowboy guys that aren't in but have had better careers than some of the guys that are in.
Dan Fouts is in the Hall with a similar playoff record
 
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