The No. 1 Jamal Adams Trade Blockade For Cowboys? Jets Anger

Hardline · Jun 20, 2020

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news...ract-its-new-york-jets-cowboys-directed-anger

big dog cowboy · Jun 21, 2020

Ah, but there's the rub. Sources tell CowboysSI.com that Jets management remains irate about the October leaks regarding negotiations - leaks they blame on the Cowboys front office. We'd contend that the Jets camp and Adams' camp have also been fairly forthcoming with information, but the Jets think what they think.

The drama the drama.

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KingintheNorth · Jun 21, 2020

I don't know if Dallas leaked the trade buzz but we do know that the Jets told Jamal they had no plans to trade him and then held trade talks a few days later. The Jest are horribly managed, both the Front Office and the coaching staff. I like Joe Douglas as a personnel guy, but his handling of Jamal Adams and Leonard Williams has me wondering. He inherited Adam Gase and if he doesn't move on after this season then I'll have to consider him a lost cause.

As far as any animosity towards the Cowboys, I'm sure the last thing the Jets want to do with the disgruntled Adams is trade him to his desired destination, so I'm positive the asking price will be more for Dallas, at least initially.

J12B · Jun 21, 2020

If the report is true that Adam's is willing to wait on an extension and take a hometown discount, I'd be willing to trade a 2021 1st rounder for him.

Although I think the Jets have lost leverage, so a 2nd and a 4th may get a deal done.

KingintheNorth · Jun 21, 2020

Also, did Mike Fisher say that a trade offer of a 1st & a 2nd is pretty close to a trade offer of a 1st & Anthony Brown?

It's crazy to me the value this FO and fan base put on some of our players (Brown, Crawford, Jarwin, Heath). Brown is not highly thought of around the league, especially by NFL officials. The Jets were out of their minds asking for a 1st & Zack Martin or Tyron Smith, but the Cowboys FO wasn't dealing in reality offering a 1st & Brown either, especially since Brown was a pending free agent at the time.

robjay04 · Jun 21, 2020

KingintheNorth said:
I don't know if Dallas leaked the trade buzz but we do know that the Jets told Jamal they had no plans to trade him and then held trade talks a few days later. The Jest are horribly managed, both the Front Office and the coaching staff. I like Joe Douglas as a personnel guy, but his handling of Jamal Adams and Leonard Williams has me wondering. He inherited Adam Gase and if he doesn't move on after this season then I'll have to consider him a lost cause.

As far as any animosity towards the Cowboys, I'm sure the last thing the Jets want to do with the disgruntled Adams is trade him to his desired destination, so I'm positive the asking price will be more for Dallas, at least initially.

If the Jets decide to trade him to a team that he prefers not to go to, he can just publicly threaten to holdout. The precedent is set already with Antonio Brown and Rob Gronkowski. A high profile player has a lot of sway if you want to get maximize his value.

The Jets will maximize his value if you trade him to a team that he wants to go to.

JoeKing · Jun 21, 2020

In the third year of a 5 year rookie contract and making demands. I would ignore his demands even if he holds out. He can sit for two years and then get tagged to sit some more for all I care. It does not matter how good you think you are. You do not make demands like that in your third year on a rookie contract. He's good but his attitude is a problem. The Jets have already said they will give him an extension but then his attitude keeps reminding them why that is a mistake. Jamal's attitude is his own worst enemy.

Hennessy_King · Jun 21, 2020

JoeKing said:
In the third year of a 5 year rookie contract and making demands. I would ignore his demands even if he holds out. He can sit for two years and then get tagged to sit some more for all I care. It does not matter how good you think you are. You do not make demands like that in your third year on a rookie contract. He's good but his attitude is a problem. The Jets have already said they will give him an extension but then his attitude keeps reminding them why that is a mistake. Jamal's attitude is his own worst enemy.

He's a great kid with a great attitude. He's outplayed his contract. 2 all pros, 2 pro bowls in 3 seasons. The NFLPA really messed up on not getting rid of the 5th year option. I mean for certain guys to play half their career being underpayed doesn't sound so enticing. Jets aren't strapped for cap space if they were smart they would sign him to a huge deal and front load some of that money while they have the space. Why draft a guy 6th overall have him ball out then not pay him. It's obvious he's better than the $13 million over the next 2 years. Down the road his deal will look like a steal. He's only 24 doesn't turn 25 until october this kid could ball out like crazy and every year you don't sign him the money goes up.

ConstantReboot · Jun 21, 2020

Hennessy_King said:
He's a great kid with a great attitude. He's outplayed his contract. 2 all pros, 2 pro bowls in 3 seasons. The NFLPA really messed up on not getting rid of the 5th year option. I mean for certain guys to play half their career being underpayed doesn't sound so enticing. Jets aren't strapped for cap space if they were smart they would sign him to a huge deal and front load some of that money while they have the space. Why draft a guy 6th overall have him ball out then not pay him. It's obvious he's better than the $13 million over the next 2 years. Down the road his deal will look like a steal. He's only 24 doesn't turn 25 until october this kid could ball out like crazy and every year you don't sign him the money goes up.

He is also very smart. He knows his game and would really solidify our defense to the next level.

We don't have a safety that can cover TEs like Zach Ertz. Having here in Dallas will solve that problem.

tunahelper · Jun 21, 2020

Hardline said:
https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news...ract-its-new-york-jets-cowboys-directed-anger

Jets can keep that guy.

gjkoeppen · Jun 21, 2020

Hardline said:
https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news...ract-its-new-york-jets-cowboys-directed-anger

What this Mike Fisher failed to mention is that Jones has publicly said that he's is no longer interested in trading for Adams. Jones said that a few weeks ago when this Adam trade talk started by some insider who didn't really get the scoop from Jones. This part is just my opinion and that is if the Cowboys were just ONE player away from going all the way to the Super Bowl then maybe, repeat maybe, adding that player may work out. Now even the most harden fan will say that the Cowboys are not just ONE player away from the Super Bowl. For the life of me I just don't remember any Super Bowl winning team got there and won because of the play of a safety. A safety may have helped win some games here and there but has a safety ever been named the MVP of a Super Bowl? Adams is probably better than any safety the Cowboys have but he is not what's going to push the Cowboys to the Super Bowl and despite what Adams has claimed by not asking for an extension right away and giving the Cowboys a home team discount on his next contract to get the Cowboys to trade for him, once he is here he could decide that he wants to get paid huge bucks and knows that he would have the Cowboys over a barrel because of what they had to give up to get him. Again for a player that is not going to be that ONE player to push the Cowboys over the top.
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jazzcat22 · Jun 21, 2020

Another thread series that won't die. :lmao:

Adams would b ea great addition, but not for anything involving a 1st round pick. Or multiple high round picks.
Forget the expected comp pick expectations. They will not be for sure until next year.

And what will be his contracts demand here as opposed to any other team.

Flamma · Jun 21, 2020

JoeKing said:
In the third year of a 5 year rookie contract and making demands. I would ignore his demands even if he holds out. He can sit for two years and then get tagged to sit some more for all I care. It does not matter how good you think you are. You do not make demands like that in your third year on a rookie contract. He's good but his attitude is a problem. The Jets have already said they will give him an extension but then his attitude keeps reminding them why that is a mistake. Jamal's attitude is his own worst enemy.

He's already played 3 years and is going into his 4th. That's when you normally talk about an extension. It's also benefits the team more by extending the player at that time. That's if they want to keep him in the first place.

Flamma · Jun 21, 2020

J12B said:
If the report is true that Adam's is willing to wait on an extension and take a hometown discount, I'd be willing to trade a 2021 1st rounder for him.

Although I think the Jets have lost leverage, so a 2nd and a 4th may get a deal done.

The hometown discount, and I wouldn't expect it to be much, is by far the more important of the two. Waiting on an extension doesn't do the Cowboys any favors. But he probably knows that and isn't concerned.

gjkoeppen · Jun 21, 2020

Flamma said:
He's already played 3 years and is going into his 4th. That's when you normally talk about an extension. It's also benefits the team more by extending the player at that time. That's if they want to keep him in the first place.

Adams has a 5th year option being a 1st round pick and then after the 5th year the jets could tag him making it to be the 3rd year in 6 years the jets can control his destiny.
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dwreck27 · Jun 21, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
What this Mike Fisher failed to mention is that Jones has publicly said that he's is no longer interested in trading for Adams. Jones said that a few weeks ago when this Adam trade talk started by some insider who didn't really get the scoop from Jones. This part is just my opinion and that is if the Cowboys were just ONE player away from going all the way to the Super Bowl then maybe, repeat maybe, adding that player may work out. Now even the most harden fan will say that the Cowboys are not just ONE player away from the Super Bowl. For the life of me I just don't remember any Super Bowl winning team got there and won because of the play of a safety. A safety may have helped win some games here and there but has a safety ever been named the MVP of a Super Bowl? Adams is probably better than any safety the Cowboys have but he is not what's going to push the Cowboys to the Super Bowl and despite what Adams has claimed by not asking for an extension right away and giving the Cowboys a home team discount on his next contract to get the Cowboys to trade for him, once he is here he could decide that he wants to get paid huge bucks and knows that he would have the Cowboys over a barrel because of what they had to give up to get him. Again for a player that is not going to be that ONE player to push the Cowboys over the top.
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id mostly agree but on paper our weakest position hands down is our Secondary.

Our Corners are weak and I wouldn’t be shocked if one if not two of our rookie Corners see plenty of time on the boundary.

safety's are still below average... and remember one of our pegged in starters is Haha Clinton-Dix a NFL journeymen.

I will see getting him will help pick up that unit in the back ends play and maybe even confidence.

Flamma · Jun 21, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
Adams has a 5th year option being a 1st round pick and then after the 5th year the jets could tag him making it to be the 3rd year in 6 years the jets can control his destiny.
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Well yeah. That is if they don't want to sign him to an extension. A lot can happen 3 years from now. Do they already have him tagged? He mentioned the Jets said they were going to extend him. Now would be the best time for the Jets to do that. Again, only if that is their intention.

Chuck 54 · Jun 21, 2020

Making a safety the highest paid player on your defense is just stupid. Trading more than a first round pick for a safety is also stupid.

Stash · Jun 21, 2020

JoeKing said:
In the third year of a 5 year rookie contract and making demands. I would ignore his demands even if he holds out. He can sit for two years and then get tagged to sit some more for all I care. It does not matter how good you think you are. You do not make demands like that in your third year on a rookie contract. He's good but his attitude is a problem. The Jets have already said they will give him an extension but then his attitude keeps reminding them why that is a mistake. Jamal's attitude is his own worst enemy.

Did you take this same position on Zeke Elliott?

JoeKing · Jun 21, 2020

Flamma said:
He's already played 3 years and is going into his 4th. That's when you normally talk about an extension. It's also benefits the team more by extending the player at that time. That's if they want to keep him in the first place.

That's what I said but he keeps sabotaging himself.

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