Comparing Zeke to HOF RBs

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Zeke Elliott has had an outstanding 4 year career to date. He will start the 2020 season at age 25. So far, he has rushed for 5,405 yards, averaging 1,351 yds per season. He currently sits at 115th in the NFL all time rushing list, and 4th all time Cowboys rusher behind Emmitt Smith, Tony Dorsett and Don Perkins.

The list of NFL RBs who achieve greatness after 7 years of toting a pigskin is not very long. Very, very few RBs even play after their 30th birthday much less excel. In fact, I have divided most of the great RBs into 3 categories of success:

I. The Longevity Group- the few great RBs that played very well all the way into their 30s- I call them the Longevity Group. Incredibly durable and productive for many, many years. Well past 30.
  • Emmitt Smith
  • Tony Dorsett
  • Walter Payton
  • John Henry Johnson
  • John Riggins
  • Marcus Allen
  • Curtis Martin
  • Adrian Peterson
  • Frank Gore
Everyonet on this list except Gore and Peterson are HOFers, and they both will be in a few years. This is elite territory. All had at least two 1,000 yard seasons after 30. Will Zeke make it to this level? I say it’s doubtful because of his aggressive style of running.

II. Late 20’s Group- Then there are those RBs who have been great but peaked before 30. I call them the Late 20s Group because they all peaked at before aged 30. Some played after 30, but never had big seasons. All great but not as much longevity as the prior group.
  • Jim Brown- retired at 29 at his absolute peak.
  • Larry Czonka
  • Franco Harris
  • Barry Sanders- had a great season at 30, then retired.
  • OJ Simpson
  • Eric Dickerson
  • Thurman Thomas
  • LaDainian Tomlinson
  • Jerome Bettis
  • Marshall Faulk
  • Edgerrin James
There are a few others but you get the idea. All of these players are in the Hall of Fame, but had peaked at or before 30. This is the type of career I think Zeke will have. Great, possibly HOF. But peaked before 30.

III. The Great Short Timers- these are all great players who were absolute stars but injuries shortened or ended their careers. They all had monsters seasons, but their career was like a bottle rocket.
  • Gayle Sayers
  • Bo Jackson
  • Billy Sims
  • Terrell Davis
  • William Andrews
Sayers and TDavis made the HOF despite careers shortened by injury. The others were great players that made a huge splash then faded.

Of these three groups, I see Zeke having a career like the second group. The guys who peak in their late 20s. I don’t know if Zeke will be a HOFer, but he has a chance if he takes care of his body and avoids injury.

It will be fun to see how the next 4-5 seasons go for him because he will probably peak or decline somewhere in there.
 

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The Zeke critics are the same people who make every excuses for most of our players and fails..." but Garret". Garret's been responsible for calling stupid up the gut plays....or 4 straight passing plays on 1st and goal at the one. There's been some missed blocking...and but of course some missed opportunities on Zeke's part...like every single other player.

Then a few gems like "Zeke benefits from the 3 first round o-line but Dak doesn't"...as they cherry pick the stats from one year. And "he's only great because of amount of carries"...as you can find Emmitt with more carries in several seasons...and about the same give or take in several others.

We should all be bro-hugging the departure of Garret yet here we sit hating on our own players...and GOOD ones to boot.

Let's clean the slate, and see if MM can operate this potent offense to it's full potential by confusing defenses, instead of spoon feeding them everything.

And zeke better come in ready to roll...none of this Cabo Fat stuff!
 

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Zeke Elliott has had an outstanding 4 year career to date. He will start the 2020 season at age 25. So far, he has rushed for 5,405 yards, averaging 1,351 yds per season. He currently sits at 115th in the NFL all time rushing list, and 4th all time Cowboys rusher behind Emmitt Smith, Tony Dorsett and Don Perkins.

The list of NFL RBs who achieve greatness after 7 years of toting a pigskin is not very long. Very, very few RBs even play after their 30th birthday much less excel. In fact, I have divided most of the great RBs into 3 categories of success:

I. The Longevity Group- the few great RBs that played very well all the way into their 30s- I call them the Longevity Group. Incredibly durable and productive for many, many years. Well past 30.
  • Emmitt Smith
  • Tony Dorsett
  • Walter Payton
  • John Henry Johnson
  • John Riggins
  • Marcus Allen
  • Curtis Martin
  • Adrian Peterson
  • Frank Gore
Everyonet on this list except Gore and Peterson are HOFers, and they both will be in a few years. This is elite territory. All had at least two 1,000 yard seasons after 30. Will Zeke make it to this level? I say it’s doubtful because of his aggressive style of running.

II. Late 20’s Group- Then there are those RBs who have been great but peaked before 30. I call them the Late 20s Group because they all peaked at before aged 30. Some played after 30, but never had big seasons. All great but not as much longevity as the prior group.
  • Jim Brown- retired at 29 at his absolute peak.
  • Larry Czonka
  • Franco Harris
  • Barry Sanders- had a great season at 30, then retired.
  • OJ Simpson
  • Eric Dickerson
  • Thurman Thomas
  • LaDainian Tomlinson
  • Jerome Bettis
  • Marshall Faulk
  • Edgerrin James
There are a few others but you get the idea. All of these players are in the Hall of Fame, but had peaked at or before 30. This is the type of career I think Zeke will have. Great, possibly HOF. But peaked before 30.

III. The Great Short Timers- these are all great players who were absolute stars but injuries shortened or ended their careers. They all had monsters seasons, but their career was like a bottle rocket.
  • Gayle Sayers
  • Bo Jackson
  • Billy Sims
  • Terrell Davis
  • William Andrews
Sayers and TDavis made the HOF despite careers shortened by injury. The others were great players that made a huge splash then faded.

Of these three groups, I see Zeke having a career like the second group. The guys who peak in their late 20s. I don’t know if Zeke will be a HOFer, but he has a chance if he takes care of his body and avoids injury.

It will be fun to see how the next 4-5 seasons go for him because he will probably peak or decline somewhere in there.

How many of those RB's was fat and happy and lost a step by the time they were 3 years in?

Zeke will be gone from Dallas in 2 years and then his career will fall apart.

Zeke has already declined.
 

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The Zeke critics are the same people who make every excuses for most of our players and fails..." but Garret". Garret's been responsible for calling stupid up the gut plays....or 4 straight passing plays on 1st and goal at the one. There's been some missed blocking...and but of course some missed opportunities on Zeke's part...like every single other player.

Then a few gems like "Zeke benefits from the 3 first round o-line but Dak doesn't"...as they cherry pick the stats from one year. And "he's only great because of amount of carries"...as you can find Emmitt with more carries in several seasons...and about the same give or take in several others.

We should all be bro-hugging the departure of Garret yet here we sit hating on our own players...and GOOD ones to boot.

Let's clean the slate, and see if MM can operate this potent offense to it's full potential by confusing defenses, instead of spoon feeding them everything.

And zeke better come in ready to roll...none of this Cabo Fat stuff!

Say whatever you want about Zeke his career has gone downhill since his rookie year.

Its abundantly obvious that his rookie success was a product of the best Oline in football.

Zeke simply isn't as good as we all thought he was. It was fools gold. And on top of it all the guy is a immature moron that is anything but a leader for this team.

He needs LOTS of carries to be productive. When it comes to dominating games and making big plays it rarely happens.

But yah, he is tough and he is a good blocker. :muttley:
 

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Say whatever you want about Zeke his career has gone downhill since his rookie year.

Its abundantly obvious that his rookie success was a product of the best Oline in football.

Zeke simply isn't as good as we all thought he was. It was fools gold. And on top of it all the guy is a immature moron that is anything but a leader for this team.

He needs LOTS of carries to be productive. When it comes to dominating games and making big plays it rarely happens.

But yah, he is tough and he is a good blocker. :muttley:

Speak for yourself.
 

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Zeke Elliott has had an outstanding 4 year career to date. He will start the 2020 season at age 25. So far, he has rushed for 5,405 yards, averaging 1,351 yds per season. He currently sits at 115th in the NFL all time rushing list, and 4th all time Cowboys rusher behind Emmitt Smith, Tony Dorsett and Don Perkins.

The list of NFL RBs who achieve greatness after 7 years of toting a pigskin is not very long. Very, very few RBs even play after their 30th birthday much less excel. In fact, I have divided most of the great RBs into 3 categories of success:

I. The Longevity Group- the few great RBs that played very well all the way into their 30s- I call them the Longevity Group. Incredibly durable and productive for many, many years. Well past 30.
  • Emmitt Smith
  • Tony Dorsett
  • Walter Payton
  • John Henry Johnson
  • John Riggins
  • Marcus Allen
  • Curtis Martin
  • Adrian Peterson
  • Frank Gore
Everyonet on this list except Gore and Peterson are HOFers, and they both will be in a few years. This is elite territory. All had at least two 1,000 yard seasons after 30. Will Zeke make it to this level? I say it’s doubtful because of his aggressive style of running.

II. Late 20’s Group- Then there are those RBs who have been great but peaked before 30. I call them the Late 20s Group because they all peaked at before aged 30. Some played after 30, but never had big seasons. All great but not as much longevity as the prior group.
  • Jim Brown- retired at 29 at his absolute peak.
  • Larry Czonka
  • Franco Harris
  • Barry Sanders- had a great season at 30, then retired.
  • OJ Simpson
  • Eric Dickerson
  • Thurman Thomas
  • LaDainian Tomlinson
  • Jerome Bettis
  • Marshall Faulk
  • Edgerrin James
There are a few others but you get the idea. All of these players are in the Hall of Fame, but had peaked at or before 30. This is the type of career I think Zeke will have. Great, possibly HOF. But peaked before 30.

III. The Great Short Timers- these are all great players who were absolute stars but injuries shortened or ended their careers. They all had monsters seasons, but their career was like a bottle rocket.
  • Gayle Sayers
  • Bo Jackson
  • Billy Sims
  • Terrell Davis
  • William Andrews
Sayers and TDavis made the HOF despite careers shortened by injury. The others were great players that made a huge splash then faded.

Of these three groups, I see Zeke having a career like the second group. The guys who peak in their late 20s. I don’t know if Zeke will be a HOFer, but he has a chance if he takes care of his body and avoids injury.

It will be fun to see how the next 4-5 seasons go for him because he will probably peak or decline somewhere in there.
Zeke is making more money than any of these clowns!!!
 

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Zeke is off to a pretty good start for getting to the HOF no doubt about it. But he did drop his pace a bit last season, and that’s not a good omen. Plus he’s rich as God compared to past players which may mean he doesn’t feel the need to play in his 30s on a crummy team.
Also Emmitt is probably really a group 2 guy (not only was he not really any good after age 30, he wasn’t really any good after 26)... which isn’t at all bad because of you look at the two groups that’s the one you want to be in.
 

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Say whatever you want about Zeke his career has gone downhill since his rookie year.

Its abundantly obvious that his rookie success was a product of the best Oline in football.

Zeke simply isn't as good as we all thought he was. It was fools gold. And on top of it all the guy is a immature moron that is anything but a leader for this team.

He needs LOTS of carries to be productive. When it comes to dominating games and making big plays it rarely happens.

But yah, he is tough and he is a good blocker. :muttley:
@aria is that you?
 

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Zeke Elliott has had an outstanding 4 year career to date. He will start the 2020 season at age 25. So far, he has rushed for 5,405 yards, averaging 1,351 yds per season. He currently sits at 115th in the NFL all time rushing list, and 4th all time Cowboys rusher behind Emmitt Smith, Tony Dorsett and Don Perkins.

The list of NFL RBs who achieve greatness after 7 years of toting a pigskin is not very long. Very, very few RBs even play after their 30th birthday much less excel. In fact, I have divided most of the great RBs into 3 categories of success:

I. The Longevity Group- the few great RBs that played very well all the way into their 30s- I call them the Longevity Group. Incredibly durable and productive for many, many years. Well past 30.
  • Emmitt Smith
  • Tony Dorsett
  • Walter Payton
  • John Henry Johnson
  • John Riggins
  • Marcus Allen
  • Curtis Martin
  • Adrian Peterson
  • Frank Gore
Everyonet on this list except Gore and Peterson are HOFers, and they both will be in a few years. This is elite territory. All had at least two 1,000 yard seasons after 30. Will Zeke make it to this level? I say it’s doubtful because of his aggressive style of running.

II. Late 20’s Group- Then there are those RBs who have been great but peaked before 30. I call them the Late 20s Group because they all peaked at before aged 30. Some played after 30, but never had big seasons. All great but not as much longevity as the prior group.
  • Jim Brown- retired at 29 at his absolute peak.
  • Larry Czonka
  • Franco Harris
  • Barry Sanders- had a great season at 30, then retired.
  • OJ Simpson
  • Eric Dickerson
  • Thurman Thomas
  • LaDainian Tomlinson
  • Jerome Bettis
  • Marshall Faulk
  • Edgerrin James
There are a few others but you get the idea. All of these players are in the Hall of Fame, but had peaked at or before 30. This is the type of career I think Zeke will have. Great, possibly HOF. But peaked before 30.

III. The Great Short Timers- these are all great players who were absolute stars but injuries shortened or ended their careers. They all had monsters seasons, but their career was like a bottle rocket.
  • Gayle Sayers
  • Bo Jackson
  • Billy Sims
  • Terrell Davis
  • William Andrews
Sayers and TDavis made the HOF despite careers shortened by injury. The others were great players that made a huge splash then faded.

Of these three groups, I see Zeke having a career like the second group. The guys who peak in their late 20s. I don’t know if Zeke will be a HOFer, but he has a chance if he takes care of his body and avoids injury.

It will be fun to see how the next 4-5 seasons go for him because he will probably peak or decline somewhere in there.
If someone gave me money to bet on zeke being a hof or not I would bet for him being one. There aren’t any other players on the team minus the o line I can say that for.
 
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