Feeling sorry for the fleeced Jerry Jones

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GimmeTheBall! said:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...om&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

Yes, the bleacher report, our fave target. Nonetheless...

But when the author offers 3 options, the third one made me spit me beer out me nose!
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"If Jones had just capitulated and agreed to a four-year contract last summer, he'd have already paid Prescott a chunk of money and stuffed some of the cap hit into the 2019 budget. Instead, he'll write a $31.4 million check to Prescott and get no benefits from it beyond one year of the quarterback's services and the privilege of doing the same thing next year. If the Cowboys eventually get their five-year, cap-friendly contract, it will only come after multiple one-year, cap-unfriendly contracts, which of course defeats the whole purpose."

This is why I wanted the deal done last year. Even if the Cowboys gave Dak a four year extension at $40 million a year, they could have paid a lot of that money in 2019 and the five year average would have only been $32.4 million. And I don't think it even would have taken $40 million a year to get a deal done. That was just the reported (and denied by Dak) "pie in the sky" initial ask. They could have gotten it done for less than that for sure.
 
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Lets see how "fleeced" Jerry looks after Rayne Dakota flops this season and MM finally gets to draft his own Quarterback next year
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Why would Dak flop? You may not think he is as good as he needs to be for the Cowboys, but he hasn't "flopped" in 4 years, and there is no reason to think he will now.
 
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Dak gets signed by 15th. Dak signed it so he was covered. Camps and workouts are about to start and he isn’t holding out. He wants to be there with the team. But now he has a contract and if he gets injured he is covered.
 
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jaythecowboy said:
"If Jones had just capitulated and agreed to a four-year contract last summer, he'd have already paid Prescott a chunk of money and stuffed some of the cap hit into the 2019 budget. Instead, he'll write a $31.4 million check to Prescott and get no benefits from it beyond one year of the quarterback's services and the privilege of doing the same thing next year. If the Cowboys eventually get their five-year, cap-friendly contract, it will only come after multiple one-year, cap-unfriendly contracts, which of course defeats the whole purpose."

This is why I wanted the deal done last year. Even if the Cowboys gave Dak a four year extension at $40 million a year, they could have paid a lot of that money in 2019 and the five year average would have only been $32.4 million. And I don't think it even would have taken $40 million a year to get a deal done. That was just the reported (and denied by Dak) "pie in the sky" initial ask. They could have gotten it done for less than that for sure.
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If the Cowboys had given Dak 40 mil. last year within two weeks this board wouldn't have existed anymore..
 
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OmerV said:
Why would Dak flop? You may not think he is as good as he needs to be for the Cowboys, but he hasn't "flopped" in 4 years, and there is no reason to think he will now.
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I'm afraid you're wasting your time.

You are not going to get a cogent answer.
 
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The only people who know how this will turn out are the Jones boys, Dak and his agent, and MM. Perhaps Charlotte.

So all the talking heads, radio experts, websites, whispers from the star, Jerry's back pocket boy, Fans around the world, especially on this site, have no clue what tomorrow brings in regard to this issue.

They may be working a new contract now
The team may be taking a show me stance
Dak may be agreeing to show them
Dak may be angry and will play out this tag and move on.....but they can tag him next year as well

All other comments on what IS transpiring are bull pellets. All the hand wringing, or slander directed toward Dak is for naught.

This topic has now surpassed the days of Quincy Carter and the dialog posted then.

Where are the threads talking about the team and where they might go this season? Buried under the Dak cloud.

Wait and see is tough for some. But nothing changes until it changes. The rest is rhetoric.
 

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Tanier makes the same mistake some fans here do.

Wentz signed a 4 year extension TACKED ONTO THE BACK END OF TWO YEARS LEFT ON HIS ORIGINAL CONTRACT.
 

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jaythecowboy said:
"If Jones had just capitulated and agreed to a four-year contract last summer, he'd have already paid Prescott a chunk of money and stuffed some of the cap hit into the 2019 budget. Instead, he'll write a $31.4 million check to Prescott and get no benefits from it beyond one year of the quarterback's services and the privilege of doing the same thing next year. If the Cowboys eventually get their five-year, cap-friendly contract, it will only come after multiple one-year, cap-unfriendly contracts, which of course defeats the whole purpose."

This is why I wanted the deal done last year. Even if the Cowboys gave Dak a four year extension at $40 million a year, they could have paid a lot of that money in 2019 and the five year average would have only been $32.4 million. And I don't think it even would have taken $40 million a year to get a deal done. That was just the reported (and denied by Dak) "pie in the sky" initial ask. They could have gotten it done for less than that for sure.
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Not saying there isn't a time & place to extend a guy early but I don't understand why paying money before their deal is up has become the "go to" answer amongst fans. Do any of you make large commitments before they have to be made?
If Dak had a terrible 2019, wouldn't those same people be saying what an idiot Jerry was for extending him?
Also, didn't Dak decline the offer that was extended to him last year? If Dak is turning down offers this year, why does anyone think he would have accepted anything less than the terms he wanted last year?
I think sometimes you gotta accept that two sides just don't agree on what is a good deal. Playing with the "what if's" $'s just doesn't seem productive at this point.
Not trying to attack you, just trying to say I don't understand or agree with what has seem to become the standard "Jerry shoulda done this" line of thinking.
 
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McKDaddy said:
Not saying there isn't a time & place to extend a guy early but I don't understand why paying money before their deal is up has become the "go to" answer amongst fans. Do any of you make large commitments before they have to be made?
If Dak had a terrible 2019, wouldn't those same people be saying what an idiot Jerry was for extending him?
Also, didn't Dak decline the offer that was extended to him last year? If Dak is turning down offers this year, why does anyone think he would have accepted anything less than the terms he wanted last year?
I think sometimes you gotta accept that two sides just don't agree on what is a good deal. Playing with the "what if's" $'s just doesn't seem productive at this point.
Not trying to attack you, just trying to say I don't understand or agree with what has seem to become the standard "Jerry shoulda done this" line of thinking.
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I don't know about you but I have certainly made commitments before they have to be made if there is a material advantage in doing so. The Cowboys were lowballing Dak last year so it's no wonder he didn't sign. They initially only offered $30 million per year, $90 million guaranteed. They have made better offers since but to this day they still haven't conceded the fourth year. They should have made more compelling offers in 2019 so they could potentially use that year to lessen the cap hit over the life of the contract. But like I said, even if they had given Dak the rumored $40 million per year request at four years(that Dak refuted) they still would have been in better shape long-term than they are right now.

I don't understand your aversion to questioning moves made by the front office. That is one of the main reasons for having a discussion board. What are we gonna discuss? By that rationale we shouldn't question the coaches or players either. It seems fair game to either applaud of find fault with decisions made by the front office, whether it's draft selection, coaching hires, how the teams are spending the cap. Just as it is fair to discuss coaching decisions on scheme, playing time, in-game decisions, etc. There is something to be said for 20-20 hindsight but that isn't the case when you are giving an opinion on something that has yet to be decided.
 

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jaythecowboy said:
"If Jones had just capitulated and agreed to a four-year contract last summer, he'd have already paid Prescott a chunk of money and stuffed some of the cap hit into the 2019 budget. Instead, he'll write a $31.4 million check to Prescott and get no benefits from it beyond one year of the quarterback's services and the privilege of doing the same thing next year. If the Cowboys eventually get their five-year, cap-friendly contract, it will only come after multiple one-year, cap-unfriendly contracts, which of course defeats the whole purpose."

This is why I wanted the deal done last year. Even if the Cowboys gave Dak a four year extension at $40 million a year, they could have paid a lot of that money in 2019 and the five year average would have only been $32.4 million. And I don't think it even would have taken $40 million a year to get a deal done. That was just the reported (and denied by Dak) "pie in the sky" initial ask. They could have gotten it done for less than that for sure.
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You are a 100% right . . . If the Cowboys were sold on Dak? This is a stupid strategy. You pointed this out clearly. Theres no arguing this . . . Unless the Cowboys arent confident in Dak's continued "Improvement". And when I say Cowboys that includes MM.

If Dalton wasnt here Dak would be a hold out and MM would be assed out. Who would want this drama in thier inaugrial season.

This Agent has taken the wrong aproach with Jerry. Take it for what it is worth but Skip Bayless claims that there was a deal on the table last year. Skip claims they had a gentlemans agreement before the season. After the hot start they uped the price on Jerry. Now with the demand of 4 years and not agreeing to 5 years has left a bad taste in Jerry's mouth.

Dalton became available . . . MM falls over himself to sign him. You can believe Mike let out a big exhale.

Of all the veterns who became available Dalton is second only to Cam Newton in talent. But Cam has the circus attached and the Injury cocearns give Dalton the edge in my mind
 
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