Feeling sorry for the fleeced Jerry Jones

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this load of bull requires a tandem dump truck to deliver it. stephen's doing what is best for the cowboys, not just dak. he's got more than just one individual to worry about.
 
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TwoDeep3 said:
The only people who know how this will turn out are the Jones boys, Dak and his agent, and MM. Perhaps Charlotte.

So all the talking heads, radio experts, websites, whispers from the star, Jerry's back pocket boy, Fans around the world, especially on this site, have no clue what tomorrow brings in regard to this issue.

They may be working a new contract now
The team may be taking a show me stance
Dak may be agreeing to show them
Dak may be angry and will play out this tag and move on.....but they can tag him next year as well

All other comments on what IS transpiring are bull pellets. All the hand wringing, or slander directed toward Dak is for naught.

This topic has now surpassed the days of Quincy Carter and the dialog posted then.

Where are the threads talking about the team and where they might go this season? Buried under the Dak cloud.

Wait and see is tough for some. But nothing changes until it changes. The rest is rhetoric.
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the reason this keeps being talked about, is that many people just dont like uncertainty , they want it to get done, regardless of the outcome.
If it isnt done yet, it keeps people on edge because the future is uncertain in their minds.
 
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NotForLong said:
You are a 100% right . . . If the Cowboys were sold on Dak? This is a stupid strategy. You pointed this out clearly. Theres no arguing this . . . Unless the Cowboys arent confident in Dak's continued "Improvement". And when I say Cowboys that includes MM.

If Dalton wasnt here Dak would be a hold out and MM would be assed out. Who would want this drama in thier inaugrial season.

This Agent has taken the wrong aproach with Jerry. Take it for what it is worth but Skip Bayless claims that there was a deal on the table last year. Skip claims they had a gentlemans agreement before the season. After the hot start they uped the price on Jerry. Now with the demand of 4 years and not agreeing to 5 years has left a bad taste in Jerry's mouth.

Dalton became available . . . MM falls over himself to sign him. You can believe Mike let out a big exhale.

Of all the veterns who became available Dalton is second only to Cam Newton in talent. But Cam has the circus attached and the Injury cocearns give Dalton the edge in my mind
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Not sure I buy into what Skip is saying. It doesn't really make sense at all to me. Gentleman's agreement? I don't even know what that would mean. If you have an agreement on the table then sign. If Dak suddenly started playing like trash I would expect the Cowboys to lower the offer too. The Cowboys not being sold on Dak doesn't make sense to me either or they shouldn't even have a deal with $106 million guaranteed on the table. In the end I still think the deal gets done by July 15. I think the Cowboys will give up on the 5th year or they will add more money to make the 5th year more worth it for Dak.
 
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"If Jones had just capitulated and agreed to a four-year contract last summer, he'd have already paid Prescott a chunk of money and stuffed some of the cap hit into the 2019 budget. Instead, he'll write a $31.4 million check to Prescott and get no benefits from it beyond one year of the quarterback's services and the privilege of doing the same thing next year. If the Cowboys eventually get their five-year, cap-friendly contract, it will only come after multiple one-year, cap-unfriendly contracts, which of course defeats the whole purpose."

This is why I wanted the deal done last year. Even if the Cowboys gave Dak a four year extension at $40 million a year, they could have paid a lot of that money in 2019 and the five year average would have only been $32.4 million. And I don't think it even would have taken $40 million a year to get a deal done. That was just the reported (and denied by Dak) "pie in the sky" initial ask. They could have gotten it done for less than that for sure.
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they wanted longer than 4 years lol, and their initial offer was 25-27 mil a year lol that was last year.
Stephen likes to lowball everyone and go from there, but all that does, is make the player and agent mad.
If they had a real gm, dak would already be signed to a deal , probably last year as you say.

But the jones boys are so smart they dont need one of them there GM fellas lol, they can do it themselves , and save money by not paying
some GM a buncha money!!
So now here we are lol, the circus goes on and on.
 

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jaythecowboy said:
I don't understand your aversion to questioning moves made by the front office.
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Completely agree that the board & discussions are totally about questioning things & trying to better understand the game thru different view points.
Simply saying that with respect to extending players early it seems to have taken on a life of its own as a magical "always the right thing to do" because it lowers cap hits. IMO there are other considerations.
 
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DandyDon52 said:
the reason this keeps being talked about, is that many people just dont like uncertainty , they want it to get done, regardless of the outcome.
If it isnt done yet, it keeps people on edge because the future is uncertain in their minds.
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Jerry Jones was quoted recently saying he is not uncomfortable with ambiguity in regard to contract negotiations.

He also says keep your powder dry. In this regard concerning the fans, you could substitute diaper for powder.
 
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OmerV said:
Why would Dak flop? You may not think he is as good as he needs to be for the Cowboys, but he hasn't "flopped" in 4 years, and there is no reason to think he will now.
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LOL....ya that 1 playoff win is worth at least 40 million a year!!
P.S. Add the lastest Dak-Turd of 8-8 in a so-called banner year for him ya buddy we got a winner here!!!:banghead:
 
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LOL....ya that 1 playoff win is worth at least 40 million a year!!
P.S. Add the lastest Dak-Turd of 8-8 in a so-called banner year for him ya buddy we got a winner here!!!:banghead:
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First, where did I say that? That's just another example of you fabricating a narrative that has no basis in fact.

Second, what evidence is there that Dak is asking "at least $40 million a year"? Again, something you just made up to fit a narrative without regard for facts.

I can respect someone expressing that they feel Dak isn't the right guy as long as they are rational and thoughtful about it, but all you ever have is sensationalized crap made up in your obsessed mind. I hope you never get Dak's address because I'm convinced you would stalk him.
 
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GimmeTheBall! said:
But you like Roman Gladiator movies. And leave your cousin Sapo out of this.
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DandyDon52 said:
they wanted longer than 4 years lol, and their initial offer was 25-27 mil a year lol that was last year.
Stephen likes to lowball everyone and go from there, but all that does, is make the player and agent mad.
If they had a real gm, dak would already be signed to a deal , probably last year as you say.

But the jones boys are so smart they dont need one of them there GM fellas lol, they can do it themselves , and save money by not paying
some GM a buncha money!!
So now here we are lol, the circus goes on and on.
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A player and his agent should not be offended by an initial low ball offer any more than the fo should be bothered by an initial high offer. It's called a starting point. And neither is it a take it or leave it deal like tex schramm was prone to offer. Just business as usual.
 
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OmerV said:
First, where did I say that? That's just another example of you fabricating a narrative that has no basis in fact.

Second, what evidence is there that Dak is asking "at least $40 million a year"? Again, something you just made up to fit a narrative without regard for facts.

I can respect someone expressing that they feel Dak isn't the right guy as long as they are rational and thoughtful about it, but all you ever have is sensationalized crap made up in your obsessed mind. I hope you never get Dak's address because I'm convinced you would stalk him.
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you should stop responding to him lol. your not going to change his mind , that is obvious.
 
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DandyDon52 said:
you should stop responding to him lol. your not going to change his mind , that is obvious.
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You're right. Not that my goal is to change his mind because I know that isn't going to happen, but it's more to inform him how ridiculous he is. But he either doesn't understand that or doesn't care, so that doesn't really accomplish anything either.
 
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Oh...so people that disagree with you MUST be "trolls". How tolerant and astute of you.
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I doubt it's that the person disagrees with him as much as it is how he goes about it. It actually is possible for a poster to be reasonable and thoughtful when expressing that he doesn't think a player is the guy the team needs to move forward with, but too many feel they have to exaggerate and take an extreme position to express that belief.

In this case, a person could be reasonable and thoughtful and still feel the team needs to look elsewhere for its long term solution at QB, but to suggest Dak has been a flop for the team is not reasonable or thoughtful. A flop would be someone like Weeden or Quincy - guys that didn't show any promise or upside or ability to help the team be competitive. Dak was actually a very nice find, especially for a 4th round draft pick, and the team has been to the playoffs 2 out of his 4 seasons.
 
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OmerV said:
I doubt it's that the person disagrees with him as much as it is how he goes about it. It actually is possible for a poster to be reasonable and thoughtful when expressing that he doesn't think a player is the guy the team needs to move forward with, but too many feel they have to exaggerate and take an extreme position to express that belief.

In this case, a person could be reasonable and thoughtful and still feel the team needs to look elsewhere for its long term solution at QB, but to suggest Dak has been a flop for the team is not reasonable or thoughtful. A flop would be someone like Weeden or Quincy - guys that didn't show any promise or upside or ability to help the team be competitive. Dak was actually a very nice find, especially for a 4th round draft pick, and the team has been to the playoffs 2 out of his 4 seasons.
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and Romo was UNDRAFTED wasn't even invited to the combine, he owns just about every relative passing record for the DC and was at the top of the NFL most of his career in stats BUT he doesnt get a break for his lack of deep playoff runs? why should Dak a good find in the 4th ? meh lol
 
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Prescott’s numbers have been pretty consistent no matter what team he plays against. The problem is When the other team is better They put up more points against our defense When is this not become a team sport. Yeah let’s blame one player for the Entire franchise failures
 
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OmerV said:
Why would Dak flop? You may not think he is as good as he needs to be for the Cowboys, but he hasn't "flopped" in 4 years, and there is no reason to think he will now.
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Agreed he won't flop. The worst case scenario for Dak this season is getting injured and having Dalton come in without the offense missing a beat. If that happens people will question how much Dak does or doesn't elevate the team. The other risk he is taking is the potential of the salary cap shrinking.
 
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