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Yeah..

Funny thing..

there had to have been interested in trading for our pick to move up and take Cee Dee.

If we had traded that pick and gotten an additional 2nd or 3rd for him plus somebodies 1st later in the draft..

would that have had a better outcome?

Nobody has really speculated about that becuz it was Lamb at 17.

But the question is still valid.
I honestly don’t think that offer would have ever happened due to the depth of this WR class plus there were already two receivers taken in front of him. Had that offer been on the table, they would have been dumb as hell not to have taken it.
 

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I honestly don’t think that offer would have ever happened due to the depth of this WR class plus there were already two receivers taken in front of him. Had that offer been on the table, they would have been dumb as hell not to have taken it.
Could be.

I think rather Dallas just quickly decided they would take their good fortune and move on.

When the pick dropped in their lap..we all were in shock.

I doubt they had anything lined up to turn to it all happened so quickly.

I suppose at some point we will hear the story.

Right now they just prefer to look brilliant.

:rolleyes:
 

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rookie or not he will have an impact. It may not be quite as equal because we won't be as depended
upon him as we were upon Cooper's arrival when we had very minimal receiving threat
at WR since Gallup was still very raw and mistake prone, and there was only super slot beasley, the rest were
pure JAGs and scrub WRs,..and Cooper's arrival was instantly noticeable

- Plus dak is a much more improved and effective pure passer Now ..than what he was in 2018.
Add to the McCarthy/Moore duo here, he will be placed in well regarded scheme-designs that best feature
his skill set.

- Here's the question that should be asked: what does rookie WR lamb instantly gives us that departed
randall cobb did ...or did not ? What will be the difference between the two ?
Cobb was game experienced, NFL polished and well adapted to nuisances of the NFL.One reason why
he quickly developed a rapport with Dak and hit the ground running.

- Lamb has to learn and prove he can beat NFL level press jams, maintain precise routes that missteps could led to errand passes and INTs. and being able to read/adjust on the move. But i really tend to believe Lamb will be designated more than just a slot. Expect Ceedee to be used/utilized both inside and out. i can see Lamb and Cooper both operating between slot and outside at times .He is also going to come in very handy when injuries to outside starter occur. Plus he is a valuable slippery punt returner. But he doesn't have to be lead No.1 right away.

- " Cedarius " Lamb is gonna give a bigger more threatening weapon than Cobb, as an outside/inside guy.
Cobb don't have his catch radius and ability to out-battle outside CBs on the island. and his run skills isn'ton Lamb's level. He is very slippery and adept at elude-whiffing or breaking tackles in the open field.
Don't be surprised if Lamb is used a lot as a jet -sweep and quick smoke screen guy as well.
He has elite run skills that Cowboys will move him around and try to exploit in a various ways.

- i previously projected 40 catches and 800 yrds for Lamb's rookie year, i think i will be waaaay off as they will immediately cater to his skill set and strengths and what he will instantly give to this team.

" Til da Next Episode " .... :cool:
Glad you sunk your teeth into the topic.

I agree about the jet sweeps thing. Also bubble screens. He is a very good broken field runner.

I question where this puts the installation of the offense for Mike and Moore.

Prior to CeeDee..I assume the position was looking understated. Not now.

I will be following this all year.
 

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Cee Dee will have a massive impact . No doubt . He makes everyone around him better .
 

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I follow Big 12 football and while a lot of the defenses he played were an absolute joke, I think he will transition well to the NFL. I really think drafting him will be the difference maker in opening things up for the entire offense, defenses will have hell trying to cover all the weapons we have.

Having said that, why did we sign Coop to a contract if we just drafted another top receiver? I think we should have gone after a DE and/or a safety like McKinney in the 1st and 2nd. We had a great offense last year and this was a deep WR class, I think we could have picked up an adequate WR later in the draft. Our secondary is questionable as is our pass rush.

I’m not mad about Lamb, as I said, I think he will be a stud and everyone on the offense will benefit but our defense needs more help.
After taking CD the next 3 picks were Diggs, Gallimore, and Robinson, and then took Anae in the 5th.
This defense got some nice young prospects in this draft class, and a few interesting UDFAs as well.
 

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Cee Dee will have a massive impact . No doubt . He makes everyone around him better .
This is a versatile group, we can actually have a real game plan by studying each opponents secondary.
Take advantage every week of the mismatches, some weeks it will be Cooper, CD, Gallup, Jarwin, etc..
When you have that type of receiving arsenal, putting players in motion actually achieves something.
 

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After taking CD the next 3 picks were Diggs, Gallimore, and Robinson, and then took Anae in the 5th.
This defense got some nice young prospects in this draft class, and a few interesting UDFAs as well.

4th round pick CB Reggie Robinson is the only one i dunno what's gonna become of him this year -
dunno what his role will be vs the other CBs, how far up or down the depth chart he'll be with several likely to be ahead of him.
Will he be specifically a special teamer this year while his key playing time comes next year ?

i admit that i was actually was hoping to nab Notre Dame CB Troy Pride who went ahead of Robinson
10 picks ahead before our 123rd pick in the 4th rd.
And i'll have to chance McClay & Co. with what/how they evaluate Robinson.
 

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4th round pick CB Reggie Robinson is the only one i dunno what's gonna become of him this year -
dunno what his role will be vs the other CBs, how far up or down the depth chart he'll be with several likely to be ahead of him.
Will he be specifically a special teamer this year while his key playing time comes next year ?

i admit that i was actually was hoping to nab Notre Dame CB Troy Pride who went ahead of Robinson
10 picks ahead before our 123rd pick in the 4th rd.
And i'll have to chance McClay & Co. with what/how they evaluate Robinson.

What I like about Robinson and feel his strengths are...

—Primarily played corner at Tulsa but projects well as a slot corner/safety hybrid.

—Versatility for days; can match up on the outside with bigger receivers, in the slot with tight ends or with running backs out of the backfield.

—Recovered from an injury his junior year to have his most productive season in 2019 with three interceptions.

—Can play press at the line of scrimmage against receivers or tight ends.

—Height, weight, speed winner (6'1", 205 lbs, 4.44-second 40-yard dash)

In college, he showed a particular knack for blocking kicks, doing it four times in 45 games with the Golden Hurricane. (The Cowboys as a team haven’t blocked a single kick attempt in their last 43 outings.)
 

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The fact that we signed Cooper before the draft is probably the reason we were able to get Lamb. Somebody would've leapfrogged us to get him, if they knew we were looking for a WR, IMO.

Don't know Runny, but I'm sure glad we got him. We now have an amazing cache of weaponry on offense. If the OL can hold up, this offense is destined for greatness.
 

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I honestly don’t think that offer would have ever happened due to the depth of this WR class plus there were already two receivers taken in front of him. Had that offer been on the table, they would have been dumb as hell not to have taken it.

Pretty sure the Falcons were offered a 1st and a 3rd but they didn't take it. I'm pretty sure the Cowboys could get at least that.
 

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will have a similar effect on the offense like Amari did in 2018?

I keep hearing about Lamb as a pancrea and being the difference for us in 2020.

That he is the future and will replace Amari in a couple of years as the #1 and Amari will be no longer needed.

I just watch his highlight video and wonder if what he is doing is based on inferior college teams facing him and his QBs playing well?

I have concerns.

Some out there might have a better feel for this.

I personally think he will occasionally sparkle then fade for stretches at a time as the season wears on and the playoffs get closer and the pressure increases.

Gallop is going to become more important becuz Amari and Lamb will be drawing the coverages and we will retreat to try to Powerball with Zeke as before.

This is where it gets dicey.

When things get tight, will Moore be creative? Will McCarthy step in and assume calling the offense?

Thoughts?
If you want a Super Bowl you need a defense to give your offense the ball. Offense scores and defense wins. Time of possession is the best help for a defense to win. So, though I like the pick of LA native Cee Dee Lamb, I want time of possession with scoring to allow a defense to win the game.

In the Super Bowl, KC defense gave Mahomes the ball, for a comeback, and he scored. The game was put away with a TD run (time of possesion), and closed with a defensive stand for a KC win.

The Cowboys Super Bowl years were its Doomsday I, II, and III years.
 

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So I brought up two teams

1) The Giants for clearly being in rebuild mode with a QB two years away from retirement and no O line who used the #2 overall pick on a RUNNING BACK in a deep QB class and a lock HOF at guard sitting there for the taking. They have won a total of 8 games in the past two years and finally decided to address the O lone this year, two years after drafting the RB. Almost every Giants fan loves Barkley but knows that pick was horrible for the situation they were in. I would say that about 90% of football fans who know anything about the Giants, or have common sense, would agree with me.

2) The Cowboys who used a #4 overall pick on a RUNNING BACK! Granted, they were in a much better position than the Giants to take a RB that high but it doesn’t make it right. There were equivalent RB’s that were taken later in the draft plus there were FA’s available that could have been plenty serviceable behind this O line. Outside of Cowboys homers, we are mostly mocked for using a pick that high on a RB and there are several statistics that prove why you don’t invest high picks or large contracts on a RB.

I’m glad you could name a bunch of RB’s taken in the top 5 of the draft (you forgot to mention Ricky Williams)
and they were all great RB’s. Now tell me how many of them won Super Bowls with the team that drafted them (and overall) and tell me where the running backs were drafted who won the past 10 Super Bowls, make it 20 if you want.

You obviously don’t understand football and place more emphasis on individual achievements rather than what it takes to win as a team, especially under a salary cap. In case you didn’t notice, the league pretty much supports my stance, look at the teams who have won SB’s and tell me about their RB’s. Very few teams are as foolish as the Cowboys and Giants. BTW, I’m still waiting for your response that to my “opinion” in the zeke thread that I supported with facts several times. This is the third time I’ve asked you to tell me how my opinion of him is wrong and you keep ignoring it which tells me you have no clue what to say because you can’t deny stats.


OK we all and I mean every GM in the NFL and all the NFL fans across the nation will only think what you decide we all should think. There has never been nor will there ever be another person that knows more about the NFL than you and some day they will add your face to Mount Rushmore because your importance equals that of any President that ever lived. At least one stadium will rename their stadium to your name in honor of you.

OR

Maybe you just think that everything you say is the Gospel truth and you think that you're smarter than everyone else and that only your opinion is right and the only one that matters.

In any case don't bother to reply because I won't answer it.
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OK we all and I mean every GM in the NFL and all the NFL fans across the nation will only think what you decide we all should think. There has never been nor will there ever be another person that knows more about the NFL than you and some day they will add your face to Mount Rushmore because your importance equals that of any President that ever lived. At least one stadium will rename their stadium to your name in honor of you.

OR

Maybe you just think that everything you say is the Gospel truth and you think that you're smarter than everyone else and that only your opinion is right and the only one that matters.

In any case don't bother to reply because I won't answer it.
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So you claim I think I know it all because the Giants used a second overall pick on a RB? Lol, if you can’t handle opinions you don’t agree with then maybe you shouldn’t be in a public forum.
 

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If you want a Super Bowl you need a defense to give your offense the ball. Offense scores and defense wins. Time of possession is the best help for a defense to win. So, though I like the pick of LA native Cee Dee Lamb, I want time of possession with scoring to allow a defense to win the game.

In the Super Bowl, KC defense gave Mahomes the ball, for a comeback, and he scored. The game was put away with a TD run (time of possesion), and closed with a defensive stand for a KC win.

The Cowboys Super Bowl years were its Doomsday I, II, and III years.

the bottom line is not bypassing a blue-chipper just for the sake of needing defense - " reaching " for a need tends to become that train of thought.

By the value of their draft board, Lamb was not only just the highest graded prospect on their board that was mysteriously available on their board, but he was reported as high as the No.6th overall player on their entire board.
While we still needed defense, we cannot afford to press and force a defensive need.. just for the sake of needing defense. we just have to cover other options for a chance at defense later in the draft.

And it wasn't just taking a WR in the first round either, it was reported that there were only two WRs in a WR rich draft that the Cowboys coveted in the first round, if it were even possible a chance they'd take a WR in the 1st.
Lamb was one of those WRs with Bama's Jerry Jurd the other. .. and it had to be something special about Lamb if they took a WR that early, They coveted an Alpha Male lead dog as a WR. Not only just an ultra play maker but has ultra competitiveness as well. Apparently they thought Lamb possessed all those traits.
i thought i read an McCarhy quote as mentioning the " Alpha" trait with Lamb.
 

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OK we all and I mean every GM in the NFL and all the NFL fans across the nation will only think what you decide we all should think. There has never been nor will there ever be another person that knows more about the NFL than you and some day they will add your face to Mount Rushmore because your importance equals that of any President that ever lived. At least one stadium will rename their stadium to your name in honor of you.

OR

Maybe you just think that everything you say is the Gospel truth and you think that you're smarter than everyone else and that only your opinion is right and the only one that matters.

In any case don't bother to reply because I won't answer it.
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Have you ever met anyone who thought their opinion was wrong?
 
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