Which player in NFL history would you draft No. 1?

Northern_Cowboy

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Remember you're saying in your opinion this the greatest player in NFL history.

I struggled between Reggie White, Dan Marino, and Randy Moss but decided my choice would be Marino. No player IMO did so much with so little.





I took awhile to think about this and it's hard to go against your pick of Marino, some of the things he was doing in the early 80's there is no way to translate that into todays game. He was 35 years ahead of his time as a QB
 

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Yeah just like he did in 2008 when he went 11-5 with Matt Cassell as his starting QB.... oh wait

Or well we can point to 2017 when he went 3-1 in Brady's four game suspension.

Yeah, super important.

2008 was a huge drop off from the previous year when they went 16-0. Belichick failed to win his division in 2008 and didn’t even make the playoffs that year. He needs Brady. Belichick has a losing career record without him.
 

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2008 was a huge drop off from the previous year when they went 16-0. Belichick failed to win his division in 2008 and didn’t even make the playoffs that year. He needs Brady. Belichick has a losing career record without him.

Then it dropped off worse in 2009 when they went 10-6 with Brady back.
Lol divison and playoffs dont matter when you go 11-5, that's just blind luck nothing to do with team performance. Theres only been two teams ever to miss the playoffs with a 11-5 record.

Since Brady started his first game, Belllichick has a better win % without Brady than with him.

Just saying Brady needed BB, not the other way around. Those are facts.
 

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Then it dropped off worse in 2009 when they went 10-6 with Brady back.
Lol divison and playoffs dont matter when you go 11-5, that's just blind luck nothing to do with team performance.

Since Brady started his first game, Belllichick has a better win % without Brady than with him.

Just saying Brady needed BB, not the other way around. Those are facts.

Belichick will have an opportunity this season to prove he doesn’t need Brady to be successful. Likewise Brady has the opportunity to prove he doesn’t need Belichick.

It will be an interesting story to follow this year.
 

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Belichick will have an opportunity this season to prove he doesn’t need Brady to be successful. Likewise Brady has the opportunity to prove he doesn’t need Belichick.

It will be an interesting story to follow this year.

Bellichick already has though, as I pointed out. Now it is Brady's turn. We'll see how it goes.
 

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Bellichick already has though, as I pointed out. Now it is Brady's turn. We'll see how it goes.

Belichick has a losing career record without Brady. As I pointed out. You can’t just ignore his years in Cleveland, where he failed as head coach.

Time will tell who is right.
 

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I took awhile to think about this and it's hard to go against your pick of Marino, some of the things he was doing in the early 80's there is no way to translate that into todays game. He was 35 years ahead of his time as a QB

Exactly..........unlike many QBs today and to some extent during that time also, he didn't play with a cast of superstars. Remember a couple of former players saying his accuracy and quick release made it almost impossible to sack him. Just my take......but if I was starting team today and could any player in NFL history, he's my guy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino#Former_records

Active records[edit]

Records still standing..........but had over 40 at the time of his retirement
  • Most seasons leading league, pass attempts: 5 (1984, 1986, 1988, 1992, 1997)
  • Most seasons leading league, completions: 6 (1984–1986, 1988, 1992, 1997)
  • Most seasons leading league, lowest sack percentage: 10 (1983–1989, 1994, 1997, 1999)
  • Most consecutive seasons leading league, lowest sack percentage: 7 (1983–1989)
  • Lowest sack percentage, season: 1.0% (1988)[54]
  • Lowest sack percentage, career: 3.1%[55]
  • 200 touchdown passes in fewest games to start career: 89 (September 17, 1989 at New England)
  • Monday Night Football, most passing yards: 9,654[56]
  • Monday Night Football, most completions: 798
  • Monday Night Football, most attempts: 1,303
  • Monday Night Football, most touchdown passes: 74
  • Monday Night Football, most wins as a starter: 20

 

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Has to be Tom Brady hands down. Even if a lot of his success was due to Belichick, a quarterback who's been to nine Super Bowls and won six of them is still the greatest.

You draft Brady no matter what takes, then build a team around him with all you got left.
yeah I thought of this, but it would be stupid to draft him @ # 1 when you can get him easy in the 4th or 5th round ! lol.
Pats got him in the 6th I think.
However Brady was on the right team, with right coach, and the team was good, and had a vg defense.
he might not have been a starter even with cowboy coaches.
Same for montana, he was with right coach and team.

And for recently mahomes would be the guy to get.
however imagine him with JG and current cowboy team, and he wouldnt be the star he is today.
And JG would probably still be here though if he had drafted mahomes.
 

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Honest question? How many Super Bowls Brady wins with Jason Garrett as his coach? The greatest player in NFL history should have enough talent to overcome bad coaching IMO.
no , even with BB Brady barely won close SB games, and with JG and his staff lol the games would not even be close.
I think the best would be appearance in a champ game or 2 and lose there.

Keep in mind if they had drafted brady, they would see him as just a guy to develop, not a great qb.
Heck they might wind up cutting him lol.
BB liked him enough to keep him around. Brady was not ready when he first came out of college.
 

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Tom Brady....others are wannabes

  • most important position in football
  • Most championships, often with lesser receivers and run game
  • Has done what no other player has
Best coach ever, and awesome defenses as well. Brady is in the conversation, but it's not a no brainer.
 

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Has to be Tom Brady hands down. Even if a lot of his success was due to Belichick, a quarterback who's been to nine Super Bowls and won six of them is still the greatest.

You draft Brady no matter what takes, then build a team around him with all you got left.
Going to the most superbowls or even winning the most doesn't make you the greatest.
 

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2008 was a huge drop off from the previous year when they went 16-0. Belichick failed to win his division in 2008 and didn’t even make the playoffs that year. He needs Brady. Belichick has a losing career record without him.

Interesting story to the 2008 Patriots with Cassel and that 11-5 record. Check out their schedule and you will see they played the AFC West and the NFC West that year. Both divisions combined, had one team with a record above .500 (Arizona Cardinals at 9-7). The two other good teams the Pats played that year outside their division were losses (Steelers, Colts).

The AFC East teams had good records but only because they all played the same weak schedule.

Better yet, I think Belichek realized this and traded Cassel the next year to KC with some Pioli/Belicheat magic. KC payed dearly as Cassel had one good year with KC and that was 10-6 against another weak schedule.

How would I know this? I was at that Pats/KC game Brady got hurt in. I have friends that have season tickets to the Pats and went to many games w/ my Cowboy attire. I used to sit right behind Willie McGuiness's Dad.
 
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Wow so many, Barry Sanders, Dan Marino, Tom Brady, Lawrence Taylor, Jerry Rice, Prime Time, even Mahomes
 

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Interesting story to the 2008 Patriots with Cassel and that 11-5 record. Check out their schedule and you will see they played the AFC West and the NFC West that year. Both divisions combined, had one team with a record above .500 (Arizona Cardinals at 9-7). The two other good teams the Pats played that year outside their division were losses (Steelers, Colts).

The AFC East teams had good records but only because they all played the same weak schedule.

Better yet, I think Belichek realized this and traded Cassel the next year to KC with some Pioli/Belicheat magic. KC payed dearly as Cassel had one good year with KC and that was 10-6 against another weak schedule.

How would I know this? I was at that Pats/KC game Brady got hurt in. I have friends that have season tickets to the Pats and went to many games w/ my Cowboy attire. I used to sit right behind Willie McGuiness's Dad.

Wow, that’s some great information. I had no idea the Patriot’s schedule was that weak in 2008. That makes their 11-5 record look even worse than it is.

Belichick is not a magician. He needs Brady to be successful.
 
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