News: Ezekiel Elliott's Lawyer: Alleged Dog Attack Victim Was Trespassing on Property

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I wouldn't be surprised if he has a contract in place that states the day and time employees will be on his property.
 

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Scotman said:
I wouldn't be surprised if he has a contract in place that states the day and time employees will be on his property.
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And then it still depends on how good her lawyer is.

Very very seldom is anything simple when it comes to law.
 

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kskboys said:
And then it still depends on how good her lawyer is.

Very very seldom is anything simple when it comes to law.
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So true. It could be in layman's black and white...but then there's that changes that in court.
 
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Isn’t there also a line between whether she was guilty of trespassing, and whether or not Zeke is liable for her injuries? Because if Zeke didn’t know she was coming and she didn’t follow established policy for notifying him, how is he supposed to be able to have his dogs kept in a place they can’t get to her?

not that I’m defending Zeke. I’m just saying there is a difference between somebody being guilty of a crime
And whether or not somebody is liable for their injuries without having permission to be on their property.
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Completely agree. Zeke has ever right to let his dogs protect his property. Does that mean Zeke is being honest about it? Nope. We will see if he can prove she wasnt supposed to be there. Im late to this story, did the dogs tear her up pretty bad?
 
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I think Zeke is not being a bad guy here.

And he has had his dust ups with situations like that bar fight that ended up being nothing.

Same thing at that concert when he supposedly pushed a security guy.

He is a target and he is a bit spontaneous.

It's not easy being him obviously.

I give him benefit of the doubt.

We shall see.
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No one likes being sued for 100's of thousands of dollars.
 
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I think Zeke is not being a bad guy here.

And he has had his dust ups with situations like that bar fight that ended up being nothing.

Same thing at that concert when he supposedly pushed a security guy.

He is a target and he is a bit spontaneous.

It's not easy being him obviously.

I give him benefit of the doubt.

We shall see.
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Lol, yeah, zeke is the target. Why don’t you watch that security guard video again and see who confronted who, who made initial physical contact?

Who had to be restrained By teammates from attacking another DJ in Vegas and was banned from the club permanently?

If you think zeke didn’t knock out DJ Train in Dallas then you probably still believe in the Easter Bunny.

Poooooooor zeke! He’s got such a rough life, just tries to mind his own business and is constantly targeted for doing nothing. He had such a great reputation in college that even his dad moved closer to him to watch sing in the church choir.

I’m honestly surprised how naive some people are. Not one incident, not two, or three or four but five now that we even know about and not including the alleged car wreck cover up. Amazing there isn’t another player on the Cowboys, or has been in the past two decades, that seems to do everything right but always ends up being the victim. I don’t know how he manages to be such a kind, caring person in spite of the entire world constantly “targeting” him.

I’m not saying he’s guilty here buy your blindness towards everything else is astounding.
 
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Lol, yeah, zeke is the target. Why don’t you watch that security guard video again and see who confronted who, who made initial physical contact?

Who had to be restrained By teammates from attacking another DJ in Vegas and was banned from the club permanently?

If you think zeke didn’t knock out DJ Train in Dallas then you probably still believe in the Easter Bunny.

Poooooooor zeke! He’s got such a rough life, just tries to mind his own business and is constantly targeted for doing nothing. He had such a great reputation in college that even his dad moved closer to him to watch sing in the church choir.

I’m honestly surprised how naive some people are. Not one incident, not two, or three or four but five now that we even know about and not including the alleged car wreck cover up. Amazing there isn’t another player on the Cowboys, or has been in the past two decades, that seems to do everything right but always ends up being the victim. I don’t know how he manages to be such a kind, caring person.
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The bottom line is the better you are at your job, the more your employer will tolerate when not doing your job. It's why I always had to be a choirboy. :laugh:
 
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The bottom line is the better you are at your job, the more your employer will tolerate when not doing your job. It's why I always had to be a choirboy. :laugh:
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Absolutely. Lucky Whitehead was shown the door based on hearsay and a guy falsely impersonating him. zeke can do whatever he wants and he knows jerry will always support him and probably bailed him out of every “incident” he’s already been involved with (specifically car wreck and knocking the dj out).
 
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Absolutely. Lucky Whitehead was shown the door based on hearsay and a guy falsely impersonating him. zeke can do whatever he wants and he knows jerry will always support him and probably bailed him out of every “incident” he’s already been involved with (specifically car wreck and knocking the dj out).
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You're just jealous because you've never been the teacher's pet. lol
 
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Reality said:
Unless she was there to commit a crime or broke in, no court is going to rule she trespassed while she was employed by the property's owner.

The employer can give specific instructions and can fire the employee if those instructions are not followed, but they cannot use trespassing as a defense unless a crime was committed or was in the act of being committed.
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I just think theyre saying there was specific instructions that she wasnt to go and do her job or was to call before hand. Im guessing theyre saying she didnt call before hand. Being Elliot already declined to settle probably means she didnt call before. Im sure he will pay her dr bills, but i think their defense for this is to avoid paying 200k.

Im guessing the defense will be probably be that when she was there before the dogs were put away because clearly there wasnt any previous issues. At the end i think there will be a judement of pay the dr bills and maybe some money but doubt its anywhere near what she wants.
 
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aria said:
Lol, yeah, zeke is the target. Why don’t you watch that security guard video again and see who confronted who, who made initial physical contact?

Who had to be restrained By teammates from attacking another DJ in Vegas and was banned from the club permanently?

If you think zeke didn’t knock out DJ Train in Dallas then you probably still believe in the Easter Bunny.

Poooooooor zeke! He’s got such a rough life, just tries to mind his own business and is constantly targeted for doing nothing. He had such a great reputation in college that even his dad moved closer to him to watch sing in the church choir.

I’m honestly surprised how naive some people are. Not one incident, not two, or three or four but five now that we even know about and not including the alleged car wreck cover up. Amazing there isn’t another player on the Cowboys, or has been in the past two decades, that seems to do everything right but always ends up being the victim. I don’t know how he manages to be such a kind, caring person in spite of the entire world constantly “targeting” him.

I’m not saying he’s guilty here buy your blindness towards everything else is astounding.
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I think it's called open mindedness and giving people benefit of the doubt until PROVEN OTHERWiSE.

I refrain from jumping off the cliff about assumptions.

People here start making a crisis out of a teapot situation.

Do you really draw a conclusion about Zeke based on his pets?

:huh:
 
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aria said:
Lol, yeah, zeke is the target. Why don’t you watch that security guard video again and see who confronted who, who made initial physical contact?

Who had to be restrained By teammates from attacking another DJ in Vegas and was banned from the club permanently?

If you think zeke didn’t knock out DJ Train in Dallas then you probably still believe in the Easter Bunny.

Poooooooor zeke! He’s got such a rough life, just tries to mind his own business and is constantly targeted for doing nothing. He had such a great reputation in college that even his dad moved closer to him to watch sing in the church choir.

I’m honestly surprised how naive some people are. Not one incident, not two, or three or four but five now that we even know about and not including the alleged car wreck cover up. Amazing there isn’t another player on the Cowboys, or has been in the past two decades, that seems to do everything right but always ends up being the victim. I don’t know how he manages to be such a kind, caring person in spite of the entire world constantly “targeting” him.

I’m not saying he’s guilty here buy your blindness towards everything else is astounding.
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I think the security guard made a remark that started the zeke incident. I don't think zeke was at fault in that one. And regardless of the liability issues with the dog attack, it happened at his home, not a public venue. I see him as being immature and entitled, but not a bad individual.
 
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cern said:
I think the security guard made a remark that started the zeke incident. I don't think zeke was at fault in that one. And regardless of the liability issues with the dog attack, it happened at his home, not a public venue. I see him as being immature and entitled, but not a bad individual.
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The very sa.e people who want to paint him black..

will also scream at the TV "atta boy, Zeke".

People and their online fantasy personalities.

Whew..
 
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I think it's called open mindedness and giving people benefit of the doubt until PROVEN OTHERWiSE.

I refrain from jumping off the cliff about assumptions.

People here start making a crisis out of a teapot situation.

Do you really draw a conclusion about Zeke based on his pets?

:huh:
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I said he may not be guilty in this situation but I was referring to your comments about him being a target.
 
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cern said:
I think the security guard made a remark that started the zeke incident. I don't think zeke was at fault in that one. And regardless of the liability issues with the dog attack, it happened at his home, not a public venue. I see him as being immature and entitled, but not a bad individual.
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It doesn’t matter what the security guard said, I would love to beat the crap of or bully anyone who said something that pissed me off. He also went after a DJ in Vegas and teammates had to hold him back. While I think his gf was a proven liar, I also think there was probably some half truths to what she said. Then there was the DJ in Dallas he knocked out. He has a history of violence, plain and simple, I can’t wait until he crosses the wrong person or when it finally catches up to him in other ways.

And again, no I’m not calling him guilty in this situation because of his past, other than possibly being an idiot and forgetting to put his dogs away when he should have.
 
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rocyaice said:
Yeah usually in these cases you are advised to pay a decent amount just to keep it out of the news. And no one knew about this. This was back in March. We are just hearing about it now because of the lawsuit. Just makes you wonder.
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Sort of curious.

What about the dogs?

Since the dogs are owned by Zeke and performing a specific role in his absence..

should there be any protection for Zeke?

People should be entitled to protect their property by conventional methods without reprisal.

Entering a private property at any time should be considered a right of the owner to defend it against unwanted persons or undeclared persons.

It seems as though neglegence is a big factor leading to injury. The service person appears to have not shown due diligence entering the property at all.

Cellphones make it easy to call and ask what to do. Seems it was not done.

That appears to be that the service person was assuming responsibility to make the decision to proceed.

That makes Zeke pretty much on solid ground with not being liable.
 
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