Zeke sued over alleged dog attack

glimmerman · Jun 28, 2020

aria said:
Agreed but let’s not forget about the Doberman. Even if it was just the Doberman than all of that stuff goes at the window and it sounds like the Doberman was involved.

There was a Doberman involved. They are extremely smart and generally run a pack rather than being a part in pack style attack.

Nevermind, should have read further down. Lol.

Cowboys22 · Jun 28, 2020

Buzzbait said:
Perhaps, but if Zeke was in fact careless with the dogs, his lawyer would never admit it. He's getting paid to protect Zeke's bank account regardless of the truth.

They have since added that she was not given permission to be on the property on the day of the incident and that she is supposed to alert Zeke when she will be on site and she failed to do so. It is not careless to have your dogs in your backyard when no one is supposed to be going through the fence. We will see what the facts are when they are made public but it seems too many people were just willing to accept that Zeke let vicious attack dogs loose on his poor innocent pool cleaning lady without any proof of what happened. I said all along the most likely thing it that they didn’t know she would be there on that day or at that time and she carelessly went into the yard without alerting anyone or checking for dogs. Now, it appears that may just be the case.

Bullflop · Jun 28, 2020

Aviano90 said:
Just curious, why not wait until you know the facts prior to forming an opinion?

It was largely due to the experiences of those who have relied upon a legal system that has failed them in the past. Courts have made it their habit to reject first-time incidents of dogs biting their victims. Victims aren't allowed serious consideration unless it was a repeat offense by the dog in question. When the legal system closes its mind to such incidents, many deserving victims aren't being allowed due process. That's especially so, when the injuries are as serious as they were in this particular case. Aside from that, this forum welcomes opinions from it's members. This is merely a chat room, not a court hearing, after all is said and done. I also made certain to let it be known at the start of my original post that it was just an opinion.

Aviano90 · Jun 28, 2020

Bullflop said:
It was largely due to the experiences of those who have relied upon a legal system that has failed them in the past. Courts have made it their habit to reject first-time incidents of dogs biting their victims. Victims aren't allowed serious consideration unless it was a repeat offense by the dog in question. When the legal system closes its mind to such incidents, many deserving victims aren't being allowed due process. That's especially so, when the injuries are as serious as they were in this particular case. Aside from that, this forum welcomes opinions from it's members. This is merely a chat room, not a court hearing, after all is said and done. I also made certain to let it be known at the start of my original post that it was just an opinion.

I agree he should be held liable and I think we may be on the same page. The law in Texas regarding dog bites is wrong, IMO, and needs to be changed.

DandyDon52 · Jun 28, 2020

kskboys said:
And that's not the first story I've heard from someone I knew. Years ago I had a friend who was very proud of his pits. Very friendly guys, I even messed w/ them several times myself. Then they killed his young daughter. Sad, sad stuff.

I think it has to do with " triggers" smell, visualizations, and sounds, motions, if one or more ignite a trigger, the dog reacts instinctively.
Kids squeal, that could say prey to a dog.
Dogs can hear, see, smell things we cant.

CanadianCowboysFan · Jun 29, 2020

cern said:
Most insurance carriers don't cover attacks by pit bulls, akitas, rotts, dobermen, chow, shepherds, etc. Very unlikely he'll be covered.

Unless there was a rider in his policy saying that dog was not covered, he has a claim against the insurance company.

mattjames2010 · Jul 4, 2020

Melonfeud said:
* without reading this thread ( other than a cursory glance at the O.P.) I do feel oddly compelled as to inquiring if the one& only/ sad& lonely opined voice of @mattjames2010 has chirped in a pointy headed bellowing fashion of buffoonery on this subject topic matter as of yet , is all

I won't be watching the NFL even illegally this year, I only browse other sub forums due to liking some of the members here. The NFL overlooks and condones players like this and now have pushed an even broader statement nationwide. I know "ha ha what does one viewer matter?" - I hope you all enjoy the season, but I'm out. Been getting bored with the product recently anyways. So, none of this matters to me. Make excuses for Zeke and Dak's off season behavior, it will continually be condoned by the NFL.

OmerV · Jul 4, 2020

mattjames2010 said:
I won't be watching the NFL even illegally this year, I only browse other sub forums due to liking some of the members here. The NFL overlooks and condones players like this and now have pushed an even broader statement nationwide. I know "ha ha what does one viewer matter?" - I hope you all enjoy the season, but I'm out. Been getting bored with the product recently anyways. So, none of this matters to me. Make excuses for Zeke and Dak's off season behavior, it will continually be condoned by the NFL.

The NFL overlooks and condones dog owners? Okay, Zeke is sloppy In his personal life, but this particular incident doesn’t involve the NFL.

mattjames2010 · Jul 4, 2020

OmerV said:
The NFL overlooks and condones dog owners? Okay, Zeke is sloppy In his personal life, but this particular incident doesn’t involve the NFL.

What a surprise you, of all people, miss the point. This isn't the first incident Zeke has had. It's a constant thing with him, he's not learning and he never will. I'm not going to sit you down like you're a child again and explain something simple to you. If you can't get it the first time, that's on you. Done hand holding here and I simply don't care enough about Zeke, the NFL, or it's product to debate all day about it. I'll laugh from a distance when I see random news pop up about Zeke's next bonehead incident that escalated even further. Maybe he'll have another assault accusation, because gosh, the league needs another one of those. Their watermelon colored theme logo now (check their official subreddit for context) I guess cancels all of this out.

cern · Jul 4, 2020

CanadianCowboysFan said:
Unless there was a rider in his policy saying that dog was not covered, he has a claim against the insurance company.

He can file all the claims he wants. He won't win that one. Why would the insurance carrier make a special dispensation for zeke? Especially one relating to a potentially dangerous dog.

OmerV · Jul 4, 2020

mattjames2010 said:
What a surprise you, of all people, miss the point. This isn't the fist incident Zeke has had. It's a constant thing with him, he's not learning and he never will. I'm not going to sit you down like you're a child again and explain something simple to you. If you can't get it the first time, that's on you. Done hand holding here and I simply don't care enough about Zeke, the NFL, or it's product to debate all day about it. I'll laugh from a distance when I see random news pop up about Zeke's next bonehead incident that escalated even further. Maybe he'll have another assault accusation, because gosh, the league needs another one of those. Their watermelon colored theme logo now (check their official subreddit for context) I guess cancels all of this out.

Did you miss that I said he is sloppy in his personal life? You are telling me what I already said.

I get the frustration with Zeke. He frustrates me too. But that doesn’t make this particular incident an NFL issue to comment or act on. There is no NFL policy on responsible pet ownership among the players.

dargonking999 · Jul 4, 2020

mattjames2010 said:
What a surprise you, of all people, miss the point. This isn't the first incident Zeke has had. It's a constant thing with him, he's not learning and he never will. I'm not going to sit you down like you're a child again and explain something simple to you. If you can't get it the first time, that's on you. Done hand holding here and I simply don't care enough about Zeke, the NFL, or it's product to debate all day about it. I'll laugh from a distance when I see random news pop up about Zeke's next bonehead incident that escalated even further. Maybe he'll have another assault accusation, because gosh, the league needs another one of those. Their watermelon colored theme logo now (check their official subreddit for context) I guess cancels all of this out.

I still never understood why the NFL has to police there employees personal life? I know for one that my company would not fire me, if some lady sued me for a dog attack. Even if it was the third dog attack this year. As long as i am not in jail, or arrested i am pretty sure they could care less.

Actors, directors, producers, are literally allowed to assault people, do drugs, go on alcohol benders, abuse there significant other, and boom people still run out to go to see there next movie or TV show.

So you can save all that melodrama woe is me nonsense for somewhere else. the NFL pays these players to play football. Not to be upstanding citizens, role models, and hero's to the children. They are payed a large sum of money to put on a helmet and proceed to hit each other as hard as they can numerous times a game all in the effort to "entertain" you. If you don't like them personally, well, the NFL, the owners, and the players all don't care.

Aviano90 · Jul 4, 2020

dargonking999 said:
I still never understood why the NFL has to police there employees personal life? I know for one that my company would not fire me, if some lady sued me for a dog attack. Even if it was the third dog attack this year. As long as i am not in jail, or arrested i am pretty sure they could care less.

Actors, directors, producers, are literally allowed to assault people, do drugs, go on alcohol benders, abuse there significant other, and boom people still run out to go to see there next movie or TV show.

So you can save all that melodrama woe is me nonsense for somewhere else. the NFL pays these players to play football. Not to be upstanding citizens, role models, and hero's to the children. They are payed a large sum of money to put on a helmet and proceed to hit each other as hard as they can numerous times a game all in the effort to "entertain" you. If you don't like them personally, well, the NFL, the owners, and the players all don't care.

Because they cave to cancel culture.

CalPolyTechnique · Jul 4, 2020

Cowboys22 said:
They have since added that she was not given permission to be on the property on the day of the incident and that she is supposed to alert Zeke when she will be on site and she failed to do so. It is not careless to have your dogs in your backyard when no one is supposed to be going through the fence. We will see what the facts are when they are made public but it seems too many people were just willing to accept that Zeke let vicious attack dogs loose on his poor innocent pool cleaning lady without any proof of what happened. I said all along the most likely thing it that they didn’t know she would be there on that day or at that time and she carelessly went into the yard without alerting anyone or checking for dogs. Now, it appears that may just be the case.

The actual facts have yet to be presented in court.

That said, I would counter equally that people instantly go victim blaming whenever a Cowboys player is involved.

His lawyer laying out his version of the “facts” doesn’t sway me one way or the other. I would expect nothing less than his attorney to posture and absolve him of any wrongdoing.

OmerV · Jul 4, 2020

dargonking999 said:
I still never understood why the NFL has to police there employees personal life? I know for one that my company would not fire me, if some lady sued me for a dog attack. Even if it was the third dog attack this year. As long as i am not in jail, or arrested i am pretty sure they could care less.

Actors, directors, producers, are literally allowed to assault people, do drugs, go on alcohol benders, abuse there significant other, and boom people still run out to go to see there next movie or TV show.

So you can save all that melodrama woe is me nonsense for somewhere else. the NFL pays these players to play football. Not to be upstanding citizens, role models, and hero's to the children. They are payed a large sum of money to put on a helmet and proceed to hit each other as hard as they can numerous times a game all in the effort to "entertain" you. If you don't like them personally, well, the NFL, the owners, and the players all don't care.

I get it to a degree - the NFL does depend in part on some level of positive public perception to sell its product, and there are people in a variety of jobs that have contractual provisions regarding personal conduct, and people have had their jobs terminated because their personal conduct,

BUT ...

Unless there is something we aren’t aware of, this incident with Zeke’s dogs would not be an issue for the NFL to comment or act on.

Praxit · Jul 4, 2020

...all that and yet still alive..lol. Must be speaking from the grave.

aria · Jul 4, 2020

OmerV said:
Did you miss that I said he is sloppy in his personal life? You are telling me what I already said.

I get the frustration with Zeke. He frustrates me too. But that doesn’t make this particular incident an NFL issue to comment or act on. There is no NFL policy on responsible pet ownership among the players.

There wasn’t a policy on dog fighting either before Vick but I agree with you.

dargonking999 said:
I still never understood why the NFL has to police there employees personal life? I know for one that my company would not fire me, if some lady sued me for a dog attack. Even if it was the third dog attack this year. As long as i am not in jail, or arrested i am pretty sure they could care less.

Actors, directors, producers, are literally allowed to assault people, do drugs, go on alcohol benders, abuse there significant other, and boom people still run out to go to see there next movie or TV show.

So you can save all that melodrama woe is me nonsense for somewhere else. the NFL pays these players to play football. Not to be upstanding citizens, role models, and hero's to the children. They are payed a large sum of money to put on a helmet and proceed to hit each other as hard as they can numerous times a game all in the effort to "entertain" you. If you don't like them personally, well, the NFL, the owners, and the players all don't care.

And the players have a choice, they can make millions PLAYING A GAME and follow the very simple rules or not. There are millions of people that have to follow similar rules, many times more stringent, and they don’t make a fraction of what these entitled babies make.

So they put on a helmet to entertain us and therefore should be compensated? Does that mean all college, high school and grade school players who also put themselves at risk should have our sympathy?

Football players are far from the most dangerous professions so save me the pity party. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions, making much less than they do and doing more dangerous work so you can enjoy basic services, freedoms and luxury items.

And actually, some players and owners do care what people think which is why no one hired certain players due to their actions and which is why baby zeke threatened to sue SI.

OmerV · Jul 4, 2020

aria said:
There wasn’t a policy on dog fighting either before Vick but I agree with you.

And the players have a choice, they can make millions PLAYING A GAME and follow the very simple rules or not. There are millions of people that have to follow similar rules, many times more stringent, and they don’t make a fraction of what these entitled babies make.

So they put on a helmet to entertain us and therefore should be compensated? Does that mean all college, high school and grade school players who also put themselves at risk should have our sympathy?

Football players are far from the most dangerous professions so save me the pity party. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions, making much less than they do and doing more dangerous work so you can enjoy basic services, freedoms and luxury items.

And actually, some players and owners do care what people think which is why no one hired certain players due to their actions and which is why baby zeke threatened to sue SI.

Michael Vick committed federal crimes and multiple felonies. I’m confident there was a policy about that.

DEA_dad · Jul 4, 2020

OmerV said:
I'm in the same boat.

I’ll join this club

aria · Jul 4, 2020

OmerV said:
Michael Vick committed federal crimes and multiple felonies. I’m confident there was a policy about that.

Honest question, I’m guessing dog fighting is a federal crime?

Also, I wasn’t trying to compare the two offenses, just pointing out that the NFL doesn’t have a lot of specific rules but they can fall under the “code of conduct” umbrella.

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