Zeke sued over alleged dog attack

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Honest question, I’m guessing dog fighting is a federal crime?

Also, I wasn’t trying to compare the two offenses, just pointing out that the NFL doesn’t have a lot of specific rules but they can fall under the “code of conduct” umbrella.
I know you weren’t comparing the severity of the situations, I was just pointing out that the nature of Vick’s actions likely were covered in his contract.

Vick was prosecuted at both the state and federal level. I think the federal charges probably came out of the racketeering and organized crime element of the gambling operation.
 

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He can file all the claims he wants. He won't win that one. Why would the insurance carrier make a special dispensation for zeke? Especially one relating to a potentially dangerous dog.
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Just for clarification, by $$$ do you mean the ins. carrier would cover him for more money, or to prevent having to pay out $$$ in case of a dog attack??
I think they'd be more willing to cover him if he were to pay much higher premiums.
 

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Because they cave to cancel culture.
There wasn’t a policy on dog fighting either before Vick but I agree with you.

And the players have a choice, they can make millions PLAYING A GAME and follow the very simple rules or not. There are millions of people that have to follow similar rules, many times more stringent, and they don’t make a fraction of what these entitled babies make.

So they put on a helmet to entertain us and therefore should be compensated? Does that mean all college, high school and grade school players who also put themselves at risk should have our sympathy?

Football players are far from the most dangerous professions so save me the pity party. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions, making much less than they do and doing more dangerous work so you can enjoy basic services, freedoms and luxury items.

And actually, some players and owners do care what people think which is why no one hired certain players due to their actions and which is why baby zeke threatened to sue SI.

What rules did he break?

I dont recall seeing a mandate in the personal conduct policy that stated getting sued because your dog bit someone is cause for firing?

They should be compensated because they signed a contract to put on that helmet and entertain you. And unless there actions violate the terms of that contract, then there should be no reason why the NFL as the employer should care about those actions.
 

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What rules did he break?

I dont recall seeing a mandate in the personal conduct policy that stated getting sued because your dog bit someone is cause for firing?

They should be compensated because they signed a contract to put on that helmet and entertain you. And unless there actions violate the terms of that contract, then there should be no reason why the NFL as the employer should care about those actions.
Not sure what you mean. A video came out of Ray Rice knocking his girlfriend the *** out and cancel culture took over.

There were 3 cases at the time incoming Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson and Greg Hardy. They were all going through normal procedure until the mob put pressure on advertisers. Once that happened the NFL became more serious about penalizing players. Before then it was 2 games and swept under a rug.
 

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I think they'd be more willing to cover him if he were to pay much higher premiums.
These suits can run into hundreds of thousands of dollars. In the event of death, millions. Just how much higher do you suppose he'd have to pay to cover such an eventuality? That's why insurance won't risk it. It's hard enough to get a new roof from hail damage.
 

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These suits can run into hundreds of thousands of dollars. In the event of death, millions. Just how much higher do you suppose he'd have to pay to cover such an eventuality? That's why insurance won't risk it. It's hard enough to get a new roof from hail damage.
As it is, insurance companies are playing the odds, which is why it doesn't take much for auto insurers do drop someone. I'm half joking about it, but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that they have a price the wealthier can afford. But more than likely, the wealthy would prefer to play the odds themselves, and just forgo paying higher premiums, even if they are available.
 

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Not sure what you mean. A video came out of Ray Rice knocking his girlfriend the *** out and cancel culture took over.

There were 3 cases at the time incoming Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson and Greg Hardy. They were all going through normal procedure until the mob put pressure on advertisers. Once that happened the NFL became more serious about penalizing players. Before then it was 2 games and swept under a rug.

Yes they created a personal conduct policy.

You still haven't said how this action has violated the policy to the point that would require the NFL to step in
 

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What rules did he break?

I dont recall seeing a mandate in the personal conduct policy that stated getting sued because your dog bit someone is cause for firing?

They should be compensated because they signed a contract to put on that helmet and entertain you. And unless there actions violate the terms of that contract, then there should be no reason why the NFL as the employer should care about those actions.
First of all, I never said he should be punished. What I said was there may not be specific rules for every situation but the NFL can punish for almost anything they want to under the personal conduct policy because it’s a catch all.

They should be compensated because they signed a contract they agreed to? What!? Are you “low key faded”?
 

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Yes they created a personal conduct policy.

You still haven't said how this action has violated the policy to the point that would require the NFL to step in
I say flip the bird to the snowflakes. The NFL
was wrong. Screw them.

They caved instead.
 

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First of all, I never said he should be punished. What I said was there may not be specific rules for every situation but the NFL can punish for almost anything they want to under the personal conduct policy because it’s a catch all.

They should be compensated because they signed a contract they agreed to? What!? Are you “low key faded”?

Well if I sign a contract to receive compensation for a job I'm doing. I expect that compensation, or you talking about something else

And for the record my original reply to a different poster was his belief that the NFL should be punishing Zeke for this incident.

So if you don't agree then why are you arguing?
 

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I still never understood why the NFL has to police there employees personal life? I know for one that my company would not fire me, if some lady sued me for a dog attack. Even if it was the third dog attack this year. As long as i am not in jail, or arrested i am pretty sure they could care less.

Actors, directors, producers, are literally allowed to assault people, do drugs, go on alcohol benders, abuse there significant other, and boom people still run out to go to see there next movie or TV show.

So you can save all that melodrama woe is me nonsense for somewhere else. the NFL pays these players to play football. Not to be upstanding citizens, role models, and hero's to the children. They are payed a large sum of money to put on a helmet and proceed to hit each other as hard as they can numerous times a game all in the effort to "entertain" you. If you don't like them personally, well, the NFL, the owners, and the players all don't care.

Please understand who you are responding to...this poster wanted Dak Prescott investigated and punished for...I kid you not...for kissing a girl in a club/bar. I am about 95% sure he is a troll.
 

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Well if I sign a contract to receive compensation for a job I'm doing. I expect that compensation, or you talking about something else

And for the record my original reply to a different poster was his belief that the NFL should be punishing Zeke for this incident.

So if you don't agree then why are you arguing?
As far as #2 goes, no I don’t think zeke should be punished for this incident unless it’s the second time or more that his dogs have it someone. I honestly don’t know because I haven’t kept up with it because it’s a non issue unless we find out he was responsible.

As far as #1, what do you mean by players not being paid for compensation?
 

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I won't be watching the NFL even illegally this year, I only browse other sub forums due to liking some of the members here. The NFL overlooks and condones players like this and now have pushed an even broader statement nationwide. I know "ha ha what does one viewer matter?" - I hope you all enjoy the season, but I'm out. Been getting bored with the product recently anyways. So, none of this matters to me. Make excuses for Zeke and Dak's off season behavior, it will continually be condoned by the NFL.
*I "COPY" my brother & well done/ goodly stated , my FRIEND:thumbup:
 

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What rules did he break?

I dont recall seeing a mandate in the personal conduct policy that stated getting sued because your dog bit someone is cause for firing?

They should be compensated because they signed a contract to put on that helmet and entertain you. And unless there actions violate the terms of that contract, then there should be no reason why the NFL as the employer should care about those actions.
Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant. This event will go unpunished by the NFL. It’s just a civil suit.

I was speaking more broadly about why the NFL needs to police the players. That’s because of cancel culture.
 

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Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant. This event will go unpunished by the NFL. It’s just a civil suit.

I was speaking more broadly about why the NFL needs to police the players. That’s because of cancel culture.
What do you mean by "cancel culture"?
 

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What do you mean by "cancel culture"?
The mob mentality of destroying something if you don’t get your way. When the video of Ray Rice came out the mob was outraged and started putting pressure on the NFL’s sponsors. That’s when the NFL came up with the new personal conduct policy. Ray Rice was suspended indefinitely. Greg Hardy and Adrian Peterson were going to be allowed to play as their cases went through the legal process but were put on the commissioner’s exempt list instead.
 

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The mob mentality of destroying something if you don’t get your way. When the video of Ray Rice came out the mob was outraged and started putting pressure on the NFL’s sponsors. That’s when the NFL came up with the new personal conduct policy. Ray Rice was suspended indefinitely. Greg Hardy and Adrian Peterson were going to be allowed to play as their cases went through the legal process but were put on the commissioner’s exempt list instead.
This is the first time I've ever heard the term. Is it a commonly used phrase, and is it an established term, or something coined in light of recent events?
 
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