10 year contract extension for Mahomes worth $500 million

zack

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Lol. Dak money deniers are going to try to minimize this to the hilt. If you can find me one article that surmises this contract and says, "Yeah this is just a tinge more than Russell Wilson got when you compare" then I'll believe you.

I think Dak's getting around $37M per year at least. Hope respirators aren't on shortage then.

Dak isn’t Mahomes and he’s not worth a contract even remotely close to it. The Mahomes contract is an outlier. Let him play on the franchise tag and find the next QB in the draft.
 

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Except it does not because if the Cowboys give him that he is set up to fail right before FA in 2025. No matter what view you have of Dak it makes no rational sense for him to demand cash in the last year (which is why players typically do not stress about the cap structure of contracts and leave that to the owners while they care about guarantees and bonuses).

If Dak is selfish and only in it for the money, he is not going to offer a deal that puts him in a situation to fail in the 5th year and then hit FA with his value lowered.

If Dak is a competitor he is not going to basically tank the team for a year and play for no chance of winning.

If Dak is a team player he is not going to put himself in a situation where the team is broken up and none of the team is returning.

Basically none of the ideas of what Dak could be interested in fit the narrative of him demanding 45 million in cash in the 5th year because if the Cowboys say yes then it would contrary to any view you have of Dak.

So if you look at it from that perspective and you realize that the source that told Simms was almost certainly a Cowboys source, then you understand that he wanted 45 million in that 5th year and does not care how he gets it (like literally every other NFL contract and player in the game who only care about what they get and not the structure).

Dak tank a team, with Dalton behind him? Dak knows how he got the job in the first place...
 

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I’m sorry, but no man who plays a sport is worth half a billion dollars. I don’t care if he sees that amount of money or not, it’s just ridiculous.

And for all those “it’s the market” guys on here, save your breath.
 

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Based on the other recent contracts , his ability and production Dak should be in the low 30 million a year range or below 35 million.
I tend to agree, but with the current climate in the NFL, is it reasonable to think Dak will accept that?
 

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Lol. Dak money deniers are going to try to minimize this to the hilt. If you can find me one article that surmises this contract and says, "Yeah this is just a tinge more than Russell Wilson got when you compare" then I'll believe you.

I think Dak's getting around $37M per year at least. Hope respirators aren't on shortage then.

If you want to know how laughable this is just do it in reverse. Assume Dak signs 5 years 200 million dollars for an average of 40 million per year (not actually an insane number anymore). Now when Watson comes up and signs a 5 year extension this offseason if his goal is to match Dak does not have to factor in the 2 years 25 million left and so does his extension have to be 5 years 255 million to match Dak's number? Does that make any rational sense to anyone?
 

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Except it does not because if the Cowboys give him that he is set up to fail right before FA in 2025. No matter what view you have of Dak it makes no rational sense for him to demand cash in the last year (which is why players typically do not stress about the cap structure of contracts and leave that to the owners while they care about guarantees and bonuses).

If Dak is selfish and only in it for the money, he is not going to offer a deal that puts him in a situation to fail in the 5th year and then hit FA with his value lowered.

If Dak is a competitor he is not going to basically tank the team for a year and play for no chance of winning.

If Dak is a team player he is not going to put himself in a situation where the team is broken up and none of the team is returning.

Basically none of the ideas of what Dak could be interested in fit the narrative of him demanding 45 million in cash in the 5th year because if the Cowboys say yes then it would contrary to any view you have of Dak.

So if you look at it from that perspective and you realize that the source that told Simms was almost certainly a Cowboys source, then you understand that he wanted 45 million in that 5th year and does not care how he gets it (like literally every other NFL contract and player in the game who only care about what they get and not the structure).

Except Simms' report stated it was a big number IN THE 5TH YEAR, in excess of $45MM.

And it makes perfect sense why Dak would do that. It forces the Cowboys to just give him the 4 year deal he wants all along OR it forces Dallas to make a decision after year 4 - either cut Dak a massive check in the 4th year OR resign him to another huge deal which is what he wants anyway after 4 years.

Again, you are missing the goal here from Dak. He wants another big check in 2024............ either in a new signing bonus + his base salary in 2024............. OR Dallas cuts him a huge check for $45MM or more per the terms of his 5 year contract.

In other words, he's doing whatever he can to get a massive payday again in 2024.
 

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I’m sorry, but no man who plays a sport is worth half a billion dollars. I don’t care if he sees that amount of money or not, it’s just ridiculous.

And for all those “it’s the market” guys on here, save your breath.

Wake me when the owners, who are not shaving years off their lives and are literally just sitting in a chair, are not the highest paid person for each franchise. Are players overpaid? Sure, but wake me when the owners take a paycut and then I will care.
 

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I am probably going to block you again. Top 5 most annoying posters on here. My point was clear.
I'm certain I'm on that kind of list for some here. Hopefully not yours.
 

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I tend to agree, but with the current climate in the NFL, is it reasonable to think Dak will accept that?
Maybe not but that doesn’t mean he deserves it.

The Mahommes deal sets the bar. Everyone else should be below this. And some well below it.
 

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This contract equates to about 12 years 40/yr
Assuming escalating salaries after 2021, that PRESENT VALUE is more like a 5 year deal at 34-35/yr.....or what Dallas is offering Dak.

And Mahomes >>> Dak
Of course 2 of those 12 years were already under contract as part of his rookie deal. The new part - the extension that adds an additional 10 years - is at a higher price.

Of course Dak won’t and shouldn’t get what Mahoney does, but I understand why he prefers to negotiate a new deal in 5 years.
 

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Wake me when the owners, who are not shaving years off their lives and are literally just sitting in a chair, are not the highest paid person for each franchise. Are players overpaid? Sure, but wake me when the owners take a paycut and then I will care.
So basically you agree with me. Cool. I didn’t say anything about the owners.
 

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Except Simms' report stated it was a big number IN THE 5TH YEAR, in excess of $45MM.

And it makes perfect sense why Dak would do that. It forces the Cowboys to just give him the 4 year deal he wants all along OR it forces Dallas to make a decision after year 4 - either cut Dak a massive check in the 4th year OR resign him to another huge deal which is what he wants anyway after 4 years.

Again, you are missing the goal here from Dak. He wants another big check in 2024............ either in a new signing bonus + his base salary in 2024............. OR Dallas cuts him a huge check for $45MM or more per the terms of his 5 year contract.

In other words, he's doing whatever he can to get a massive payday again in 2024.

Except why offer it then and risk having it taken and everything I said come into play? That also makes no rational sense. There is no good reason for it unless it was not the entire story.

The only rational explanation to that entire story is to believe a Cowboys source put that source out there to try and sucker the fans into turning against Dak temporarily to put public pressure on him to lower his net asking price. Nothing else makes any rational sense. If Dak was not taking 5 years and was 100% sure he wanted 4 then he would not have given a number for a 5th year because all that situation does is make it harder to negotiate a deal which is clearly in his interest to have. The only rational explanation is that the number is right but the structure is a lie.
 

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So basically you agree with me. Cool. I didn’t say anything about the owners.

Except it all comes down to the owners. Player salary is tied to revenue. Revenue is tied to what the owners make. If the owners were okay with making less than players would as well. No one is stopping the owners from selling cheaper stadium seats and lowering rent at concession stands.
 

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Dak is rated way below mahomes and has not won a super bowl . Mahomes is in a different level of elite QBs . So we need to keep it real . Jerry should not budge due to this . The tag is sufficient to see what Dak can do this year now that the jason garret excuses for losing are gone , and new Top talent is on board . Dak should Put up Or go to the Jaguars .
 

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Dak isn’t Mahomes and he’s not worth a contract even remotely close to it. The Mahomes contract is an outlier. Let him play on the franchise tag and find the next QB in the draft.

No one said Dak was Mahommes. And I didn't say Dak was going to get what Mahommes got. Worth is up to who's willing to pay and they don't consult any of us. I just hope people are flexible with what they want to see happen.
 

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Dak can go kick rocks for another team if he thinks he's getting any of that. Cycle QBs every 3-5 years until we find a superstar, I'm fine with that.
 

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Dak isn’t Mahomes and he’s not worth a contract even remotely close to it. The Mahomes contract is an outlier. Let him play on the franchise tag and find the next QB in the draft.
Basically, let's start over?
 

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Dont equate Dak to SB winning , once in a lifetime prodigy , but yes the market is going up.
 
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