NFCE Standings For the Decade

75boyz · Jul 6, 2020

Flamma said:
I agree. Been watching since about the same time. But the Giants are funny that way. Remember back in '86? Even though they ended the season with a great 14-2 record, they weren't dominant until late in the season. Same thing applied to '07 and '11. They became a different team right before the playoffs. Even the '90 season, they go on to beat all the teams they lost to in the regular season in the playoffs. With a backup QB. I was actually worried they might do it again in '16.

Yep, I hear ya man. Giants history does speak to the getting hot at the right time mantra. And for the most part defensively as others posted. One of the Games greatest in LT with all those quality Lbs (Carson, Reasons, Banks, Van Pelt and Pepper Johson)in 86 and 90. And then Strahans last hurrah with Osi and Tuck on the d line in '07 to be followed up by JPPs run with Osi and Tuck in '11.

Always bugged the crap outta me that
Dallas couldn't have just ONE postseason where they got hot at the right time.

Their identity unfortunately has been to under achieve when playoff ball begins.

Really sad.

KingintheNorth · Jul 6, 2020

BotchedLobotomy said:
While I agree we can place blame on Jerry for this drought, no coach between Switzer and McCarthy was given as much talent and time to work with than Jason Carrot. Jason Carrot is absolutely complicit in this prolonged drought.

And whose decision was it to initially hire him and then maintain his employment?

CowboyRoy · Jul 6, 2020

Dallasfann said:
The Giants defensive line was one of the best at getting to the QB in the playoffs that year and in my opinion, teams that get to the QB are almost always one of the last teams eliminated.

In order to beat and control the Brady's of the world and the Mahomes of the word, typically you better have a great defense or its going to be an issue. Need to stop that last drive where guys like Rogers are going drive down the field 80% of the time.

CowboyRoy · Jul 6, 2020

75boyz said:
Yep, I hear ya man. Giants history does speak to the getting hot at the right time mantra. And for the most part defensively as others posted. One of the Games greatest in LT with all those quality Lbs (Carson, Reasons, Banks, Van Pelt and Pepper Johson)in 86 and 90. And then Strahans last Harrah with Psi and Tuck on the d line in '07 to be followed up by JPPs run with Osi and Tuck in '12.

Always bugged the crap outta me that w
Dallas couldn't have just ONE postseason where they got hot at the right time.

Their identity unfortunately has been to under achieve when playoff ball begins.

Really sad.

Giants history is that of a great defense.

CowboyRoy · Jul 6, 2020

KingintheNorth said:
And whose decision was it to initially hire him and then maintain his employment?

Who got 14 years of a free pass and pissed away the careers of countless HOF players?

Its Jerrys fault Garrett has a job, but its not Jerry's fault that Garrett sucks at his job.

KingintheNorth · Jul 6, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
Jerry's fault that Garrett sucks at his job

It absolutely is.

You can't insist on calling yourself GM and then pretend the head coach's actions and continued tenure are not your call.

CowboyRoy · Jul 6, 2020

KingintheNorth said:
It absolutely is.

You can't insist on calling yourself GM and then pretend the head coach's actions and continued tenure are not your call.

Its Jerrys call......….but when the boss gives you a chance and you completely Sh!t the bed, then who's fault is that?

And Garrett got 14 years by the boss and he still couldn't get the job done.

Garrett has absolutely NO ONE to blame for his failure but himself. If anything, he should be thanking Jerry for giving him the opportunity that clearly ON ONE in the NFL would.

Flamma · Jul 6, 2020

75boyz said:
Yep, I hear ya man. Giants history does speak to the getting hot at the right time mantra. And for the most part defensively as others posted. One of the Games greatest in LT with all those quality Lbs (Carson, Reasons, Banks, Van Pelt and Pepper Johson)in 86 and 90. And then Strahans last hurrah with Osi and Tuck on the d line in '07 to be followed up by JPPs run with Osi and Tuck in '11.

Always bugged the crap outta me that
Dallas couldn't have just ONE postseason where they got hot at the right time.

Their identity unfortunately has been to under achieve when playoff ball begins.

Really sad.

Ah couldn't have said it better myself. I could name multiple seasons of that. I didn't check, but I would be willing to bet that the Cowboys have the most playoff losses as the favorite than any other team. But you're right. The Cowboys don't have a history of coming on at the end. They usually peak early and fade towards the end.

Williamsboys · Jul 6, 2020

Now I see why the Commanders want to change their name.

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country · Jul 6, 2020

Red Dragon said:
Washington exists for the sole purpose of making Dallas feel better about itself.

Since 1996, the only NFC teams to have not appeared in the conference title game are Dallas, Washington and Detroit.

Snyder and Jerry get involved too much. Waaaaay too much. That may be the reason their teams can't be consistent.

DandyDon52 · Jul 6, 2020

Red Dragon said:
Since 1996, the only NFC teams to have not appeared in the conference title game are Dallas, Washington and Detroit.

wow, did not realize that, that is pretty bad ! lol
Detroit has a horrible history when it comes to playoffs, I would like to be the coach who makes them a SB winner, town would
love you.
Washington and Dallas have the glory days, that since they got the new owners have not been able to do it again.

Jerry had success with jimmy, but threw that out the window and beat his chest, and thought he would keep winning SB's
anyway, not that hard, dont need jimmy or even a real coach lol .
I will do it myself!

Synder is similar to Jerry, but he is more of a weasel, and not as flamboyant, and not as interfering, but they both are very arrogant.
Synder was actually better than jerry at making money, before he bought the team, he paid 500 mil for his team, almost 3 times as much as
jerry got the cowboys for.
So both guys just have that I made a bunch of money, so I must be a genius, therefore I will be great at running a football team type guys.
But they are finding out it isnt so easy, and they are not as smart as they think they are.

DandyDon52 · Jul 6, 2020

75boyz said:
Yeah, and unfortunately, whom that Pack team was coached by.

yeah lol , we can only hope he learned from that and the Seattle fiasco too, remember that? had the champ game won, and let Seattle
come back and steal it.

DandyDon52 · Jul 6, 2020

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
Snyder and Jerry get involved too much. Waaaaay too much. That may be the reason their teams can't be consistent.

They have control over everything, except themselves !! lol
If only they could control their own egos!

75boyz · Jul 6, 2020

DandyDon52 said:
yeah lol , we can only hope he learned from that and the Seattle fiasco too, remember that? had the champ game won, and let Seattle
come back and steal it.

Yup,
Exactly. I hope so too but besides these two we've mentioned there is a long history of really poor performing playoff defenses so I will play the old Believe it when I see it routine before I go announcing him as some perceived coaching savior. Better than Garrett? Yeah, but I need to see some yearly, consistent post season success to include a championship before I can jump onboard I guess. Seeing is believing.

How's the saying go? Show Me, I'm from Missouri.

DandyDon52 · Jul 6, 2020

75boyz said:
Yup,
Exactly. I hope so too but besides these two we've mentioned there is a long history of really poor performing playoff defenses so I will play the old Believe it when I see it routine before I go announcing him as some perceived coaching savior. Better than Garrett? Yeah, but I need to see some yearly, consistent post season success to include a championship before I can jump onboard I guess. Seeing is believing.

How's the saying go? Show Me, I'm from Missouri.

Well thats true, but mikes teams were always in the playoffs, and the more your in the better chance you have to get to champ game or SB.
Mike is way better than JG, and aside from Nolan, seems to have assembled a good staff, where as with JG , jerry assembled the staff,
and JG was a puppet HC.
Mikes teams were always professional looking when they played, and JG's teams often looked like the 3 stooges were HC lol.

So that is why I think the cowboys will look different and execute better, have better game plans, be more innovative, and make quicker and better
adjustments when needed. Better utilization of players.
And all that should translate to being a better and more consistent team that wins more games and div titles, and in playoffs every year.

Playoffs are tough, we see good teams get knocked out each year, so the important thing is to go every year, and then with some luck,
you take one all the way .

StarBoyz83 · Jul 6, 2020

If i remember right since 95 or 96
Dallas has had 5 good seasons
Giants have had 2 great 4 good
Eagles have had 1 great 2 good
Skins had 0

Bobhaze · Jul 6, 2020

KingintheNorth said:
What's sadder is this. Since our last Super Bowl win:
NFCCG appearances
Eagles: 6
Giants: 3
Cowboys: 0
Washington: 0

I see people wanting to blame everything on Garrett, and while he was/is horrible, Jerry is the real issue.

Your post is the absolute truth, and the fly in the ointment too many Cowboys fans dismiss. Garrett was at best a mediocre head coach.

And yet this owner/GM and face of the franchise talked about Garrett like he had found his own personal Tom Landry. Jerry raved on and on about Garrett. Took him ten years to realize he didn’t have anything close to Tom Landry.

The last decade of mediocrity is primarily due to the guy who wants to be the centerpiece of everything about this team. Except for the reality of being held accountable for his stubborn, foolish mistakes. He has seemingly never learned that all the owners winning the last 24 SBs hired someone else to make major football decisions.

75boyz · Jul 7, 2020

DandyDon52 said:
Well thats true, but mikes teams were always in the playoffs, and the more your in the better chance you have to get to champ game or SB.
Mike is way better than JG, and aside from Nolan, seems to have assembled a good staff, where as with JG , jerry assembled the staff,
and JG was a puppet HC.
Mikes teams were always professional looking when they played, and JG's teams often looked like the 3 stooges were HC lol.

So that is why I think the cowboys will look different and execute better, have better game plans, be more innovative, and make quicker and better
adjustments when needed. Better utilization of players.
And all that should translate to being a better and more consistent team that wins more games and div titles, and in playoffs every year.

Playoffs are tough, we see good teams get knocked out each year, so the important thing is to go every year, and then with some luck,
you take one all the way .

Nice post. I sure like the sounds of all of this and will definitely be on anticipatory stand by to witness it. Hope his roster contains the proper players and coaches to accomplish all that you describe as with his previous team. I have my serious doubts but I ain't nobody that counts.

Go Cowboys

DallasJ7 · Jul 7, 2020

In the past decade these are the NFC East teams other than the Cowboys to win 11+ games: '16 Giants, '17 Eagles. That's it.

If you include 10 win seasons, that's: '10 Eagles, '12 Washington, '13 Eagles, '14 Eagles.

We wasted a decade of a crap division.

Reverend Conehead · Jul 7, 2020

StarOfGlory said:
Eagles: 87-73-0
Cowboys: 86-74-0
Giants: 70-90-0
Skins: 62-97-1

This is sad. We only had one competent team in the division to worry about and Garrett couldn't get this team to at least one NFCCG? Thank goodness he is gone.

In fairness, he got ripped off in 2014. Dez caught that thing.

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