Tyreek Hill > CD Lamb speed kills

Dak_Attack_09 · Jul 7, 2020

I’ll take a WR like Tyreek Hill over CD Lamb, Gallup , Hopkins 24/7.

You can’t cover or teach elite speed.

ABQCOWBOY · Jul 7, 2020

And yet, the two greatest WRs, perhaps in the history of this game, weren't fast guys. Seems odd....

CowboyRoy · Jul 7, 2020

Dak_Attack_09 said:
I’ll take a WR like Tyreek Hill over CD Lamb, Gallup , Hopkins 24/7.

You can’t cover or teach elite speed.

Ill take Hopkins over Hill, but that's it. Lamb remains to be seen.

erod · Jul 7, 2020

First, your point would be worth more consideration if you would spell CeeDee correctly.

Secondly, it's a ridiculous point.

CeeDee Lamb is a bigger, faster version of DeAndre Hopkins. That's the real comparison.

JIMMYBUFFETT · Jul 7, 2020

Well go right ahead. The Chiefs need fans too.

cowboygo · Jul 7, 2020

depends who the QB is. Tyreek Hill's short game is really good, but a weak-armed QB won't be able to fully maximize his value. For Mahomes, Tyreek Hill is better than a CeeDee Lamb/Hopkins.

OmerV · Jul 7, 2020

Dak_Attack_09 said:
I’ll take a WR like Tyreek Hill over CD Lamb, Gallup , Hopkins 24/7.

You can’t cover or teach elite speed.

And I would take Gallup over Usain Boldt. Speed is an asset, no question, but it is doesn't mean anything without hands, concentration, body control, instincts, route running, reading defenses, etc …

That's not to say Hill doesn't have other important traits for a receiver - obviously he does or he wouldn't be such a high quality NFL player.

My point is the whole picture, taking into account all traits, is how to evaluate a receiver, and speed is one of several factors that play into that.

As for Hill and Lamb, it's not exactly a revelation that Lamb cannot immediately walk into the NFL considered among the top receivers in the game because Hill has proven himself and Lamb has yet to get a chance. A person could just as easily insert the name of other WRs with much less speed than Hill and the statement would be the same. Time is the only thing that will tell where Lamb ends up bein regarded in the mix of NFL receivers.

viman96 · Jul 7, 2020

Dak_Attack_09 said:
I’ll take a WR like Tyreek Hill over CD Lamb, Gallup , Hopkins 24/7.

You can’t cover or teach elite speed.

Speed is great when the player can play the desired position. Specifically for WR, he better be able to catch the ball, maneuver in traffic and take a hit. There are many examples of very fast WRs that cannot. I will take a WR like Rice, Irvin and Hopkins all day before I take someone like Henry Ruggs (based on speed).

CowboysFaninHouston · Jul 7, 2020

Dak_Attack_09 said:
I’ll take a WR like Tyreek Hill over CD Lamb, Gallup , Hopkins 24/7.

You can’t cover or teach elite speed.

there is a lot of players with speed....you need receiving ability...Williams had 4.3 speed. zero hands. zero route running ability. he sucked. we had a guy who ran a 4.19, can't recall his name. but his only game was straight ahead go route.....Hill has speed. but he is also a good WR, with good route running and good hands...that's the killer combination....

MCMetal69 · Jul 7, 2020

Jerry Rice
Randy Moss
Terrell Owens
Larry Fitzgerald
Marvin Harrison
Calvin Johnson
Michael Irvin
Julio Jones
Andre Johnson
Cris Carter

All ten of the players above I consider to be better than Hill , and only 1 of them , Moss , had fearsome downfield speed........

MCMetal69 · Jul 7, 2020

CowboysFaninHouston said:
there is a lot of players with speed....you need receiving ability...Williams had 4.3 speed. zero hands. zero route running ability. he sucked. we had a guy who ran a 4.19, can't recall his name. but his only game was straight ahead go route.....Hill has speed. but he is also a good WR, with good route running and good hands...that's the killer combination....

Might that have been Alexander Wright back in the '90's ?

JayFord · Jul 7, 2020

Tyreek hill is one of the fastest players ive ever seen not named Darrell Green

You cant go wrong with a Hill on your team but im more than Fine with our trio

conner01 · Jul 7, 2020

erod said:
First, your point would be worth more consideration if you would spell CeeDee correctly.

Secondly, it's a ridiculous point.

CeeDee Lamb is a bigger, faster version of DeAndre Hopkins. That's the real comparison.

Exactly
And it’s a better comparison when one has actually played an nfl season or atleast a game

dogunwo · Jul 7, 2020

MCMetal69 said:
Might that have been Alexander Wright back in the '90's ?

I think he's talking about Randall Williams

RoboQB · Jul 7, 2020

dogunwo said:
I think he's talking about Randall Williams

Yep. Perhaps his biggest moment as a pro was recovering an opponent's
onside kick attempt and returning it for a TD. I forget the opposing team, but it was
a fun moment to watch.

khiladi · Jul 7, 2020

Excuse for Dak in the context of Mahomes.. imagine how many times Dak would throw behind Hill, like he does all his other WRs, considering Hill’s speed...

Ring Leader · Jul 7, 2020

RoboQB said:
Yep. Perhaps his biggest moment as a pro was recovering an opponent's
onside kick attempt and returning it for a TD. I forget the opposing team, but it was
a fun moment to watch.

It was against the Eagles.

WillieBeamen · Jul 7, 2020

ABQCOWBOY said:
And yet, the two greatest WRs, perhaps in the history of this game, weren't fast guys. Seems odd....

Huh?

Randy Moss ran a 4.25 40 :huh:

ghst187 · Jul 7, 2020

Dak_Attack_09 said:
I’ll take a WR like Tyreek Hill over CD Lamb, Gallup , Hopkins 24/7.

You can’t cover or teach elite speed.

then you should go trade for him.....if he’s not suspended for beating up women....or children....or fifty other criminal-like issues he has....

Nexx · Jul 7, 2020

how about letting the guy finish or get closer to the finish of his career before comparing him to some of the all time greats

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