Tyreek Hill > CD Lamb speed kills

CATCH17 · Jul 8, 2020

Chuck 54 said:
You don’t find a Tyreek Hill just because you draft a fast player. He is the only guy like him in the NFL today.
Apples and Oranges...CeeDee Lamb will hopefully be as good as Cobb in his prime, maybe better.

Lamb better be better than Cobb ever thought about being to validate a 1st rounder.

Johnny23 · Jul 8, 2020

WillieBeamen said:
Huh?

Randy Moss ran a 4.25 40

I think he's trying to pull the age old Jerry Rice and Steve Largent card Willie.

joseephuss · Jul 8, 2020

CATCH17 said:
Lamb better be better than Cobb ever thought about being to validate a 1st rounder.

No, he doesn't. Even if Lamb is slightly less productive than Cobb, Dallas is getting better value for their dollars. Lamb validating the 1st round pick really has nothing to do with Cobb. Dallas wasn't going to keep Cobb at that price.

TexasHillbilly · Jul 8, 2020

DoctorChicken said:
I don’t really get the comparison, but at this point I’d take Hill over CeeDee. He’s a proven commodity, and a very talented one.

Dear goodness. Let the man get on the field first. He hasn't even caught a pass yet. Let him get a couple of seasons under his belt, then the forum can compare him to others. Let's grow up people.

By the way.....OP is a goober, OP is a goober.

DeaconMoss · Jul 8, 2020

Dak_Attack_09 said:
I’ll take a WR like Tyreek Hill over CD Lamb, Gallup , Hopkins 24/7.

You can’t cover or teach elite speed.

Imagine how far behind Dak would throw to Hill. If he is throwing 2 steps behind Cobb, good Lord he would throw it like 7 steps behind Hill.

OmerV · Jul 8, 2020

DeaconMoss said:
Imagine how far behind Dak would throw to Hill. If he is throwing 2 steps behind Cobb, good Lord he would throw it like 7 steps behind Hill.

On those individual throws where he threw behind (not 7 steps), which granted were a little too often, but let's not act as if it is an every throw thing.

Doomsday101 · Jul 8, 2020

CATCH17 said:
Lamb better be better than Cobb ever thought about being to validate a 1st rounder.

If Lamb produces to help this team to a championship that is all I care about. Individual stats at this stage mean nothing to me. Key for me is guys coming up big in big moments to win games. I will gladly take championships over anything else.

ABQCOWBOY · Jul 8, 2020

WillieBeamen said:
Huh?

Randy Moss ran a 4.25 40

Randy Moss is not among the two. Rice and Hudson.

black label · Jul 8, 2020

DeaconMoss · Jul 8, 2020

OmerV said:
On those individual throws where he threw behind (not 7 steps), which granted were a little too often, but let's not act as if it is an every throw thing.

Its enough of a thing, where its a legit "thing."

Dak struggles hitting WRs in stride. If he was throwing to the Cheetah, Dak would have to play the game on Saturday to get the ball to him on Sunday.

OmerV · Jul 8, 2020

DeaconMoss said:
Its enough of a thing, where its a legit "thing."

Dak struggles hitting WRs in stride. If he was throwing to the Cheetah, Dak would have to play the game on Saturday to get the ball to him on Sunday.

I don't know how you define "legit thing", but I did say it happens a little too often.

ABQCOWBOY · Jul 8, 2020

Dak_Attack_09 said:
From an era 30 years ago where they were the only target. It also doesn’t change the fact the more speedy WRs are successful than non speedy ones.

This post makes no sense but whatever.

JoeKing · Jul 8, 2020

Hill > Lamb at what? Domestic Violence? No doubt.

ABQCOWBOY · Jul 8, 2020

dplant22 said:
Yet maybe those two were 'fast' enough

I think that they were fast enough, because of other things they brought to the table.

ABQCOWBOY · Jul 8, 2020

TwentyOne said:
Randy Moss was very fast

Yes, he was but he is not one of the two I am referring to.

quickccc · Jul 8, 2020

Runwildboys said:
As for the league "catching up to Mahomes' style of play", it's hard to plan for improvisation.

yes agree. it really is because improvising and making plays on the move is not a plan ..it's a natural developing reaction, ..that's brett favre .. that's a tony romo,... that's steve young ...thats' russell wilson ....

i always remember what John Madden often said; it's two things Defenses fear the most:
Speed and a Running QB.

Like Dak, Mahommes uses his mobility and run skills to get away from rush, and scrambling to buy more time to pass downfield, ..or rumble it up field for plus yards- first down and run out bounds or slide to better preserve his body from unnecessary punishment.

when it is rare that Mahommes has off games is it when they can try disrupt his pocket passing and force him into mistakes ...early.
And what made it tougher for him to climb back into games was his defensive unit having their struggles to stop scores, make stops and get Mahommes more touches ... until this season - and it changed when the Chiefs hired new DC Steve Spagnuolo and they revamp their personnel to be a more competitive defense.

Runwildboys · Jul 8, 2020

DeaconMoss said:
Its enough of a thing, where its a legit "thing."

Dak struggles hitting WRs in stride. If he was throwing to the Cheetah, Dak would have to play the game on Saturday to get the ball to him on Sunday.

That's funny right there, I don't care who ya are!

OmerV · Jul 8, 2020

CATCH17 said:
Lamb better be better than Cobb ever thought about being to validate a 1st rounder.

I would be thrilled if he's as good as 2014 Cobb.

Doomsday101 · Jul 8, 2020

Speed is an asset no doubt, but it is only one asset. Other WR who do not run 4.2 have managed to be the all time greats to play this game. Their ability to run routs, great body control to adjust to the ball, to go up and out leap defender for the ball. I have nothing negative to say about Hill, the guy is a very good WR but I have watched some of the greatest to play this game who did not bring that speed

JBond · Jul 8, 2020

ghst187 said:
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...abuse-investigation/neqfn40200lt16ik2142ay772

did you really not know the guy has been in serious trouble since early college? Kicked off OK State, could’ve been a top 5 pick instead of late round pick had he kept clean and played two more seasons. Then trouble again in pros.
Elliott got six games suspension for being accused of similar with zero proof but Hill gets no suspension.

Zero problems as a pro.

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