Both sides lose if no deal is done

J12B

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If Dak and Dallas don't agree to an extension, both sides lose.

Dak may get his massive contract elsewhere but it is a huge gamble that he will end up on a winning team and we all know how coaches and offensive schemes can either help or hurt QBs. If Dak trends downward, he more than likely doesn't cash in on a 2nd massive contract 4 or 5 years from now. Let's face it, Dak is a good QB but I think even the supporters (myself included) know that it is possible he could take a step back if Cooper or Smith go down. Not to mention, Dallas is a spotlight team and being successful in Dallas can produce huge endorsement deals.

Dallas won't have to commit and pay long term money to a QB but it will also mean they will have to fill a major void in the next season or two.

Both sides have to give a little to get this deal done and if no agreement is made, then everyone loses.
 

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imo Dak is getting better and he can still improve a lot and he realizes that and betting on himself,the only risk for him is injury related.He has so many weapons now that he can set a lot of cowboy records this year .
 

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If Dak and Dallas don't agree to an extension, both sides lose.

Dak may get his massive contract elsewhere but it is a huge gamble that he will end up on a winning team and we all know how coaches and offensive schemes can either help or hurt QBs. If Dak trends downward, he more than likely doesn't cash in on a 2nd massive contract 4 or 5 years from now. Let's face it, Dak is a good QB but I think even the supporters (myself included) know that it is possible he could take a step back if Cooper or Smith go down. Not to mention, Dallas is a spotlight team and being successful in Dallas can produce huge endorsement deals.

Dallas won't have to commit and pay long term money to a QB but it will also mean they will have to fill a major void in the next season or two.

Both sides have to give a little to get this deal done and if no agreement is made, then everyone loses.
If, if and if.

A thoroughly redundant grasp of the obvious.
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Both sides don't really lose.
Dak gets paid, has another year to prove himself, again. Then he gets paid or tagged again. He will make $31 million this year, and if tagged again, around $37 million next.
If no deal is reached by then, that is too far away to care or to comment about right now.

However, the team as well as fans opinions will be changed or verified as to if he is that QB or not that QB. Maybe. LOL.
Dallas will know if they have the QB they think he is or not. If he takes the team to the NFCCG, then yes he is that QB. If they miss the playoffs, with no extenuating circumstance, such as key injuries. Then maybe the dodged a bullet, and time to move on.

Then there is the in the middle scenario. Has a great year, but the team just falls short, gets beat by the better team. Simple as that.
 

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imo Dak is getting better and he can still improve a lot and he realizes that and betting on himself,the only risk for him is injury related.He has so many weapons now that he can set a lot of cowboy records this year .

One big problem. He has already signaled that his next pay day is of such importance to him so do you expect him to lay it all on the line each week or further change his game to avoid risking injury for the next 4 years?
 

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One big problem. He has already signaled that his next pay day is of such importance to him so do you expect him to lay it all on the line each week or further change his game to avoid risking injury for the next 4 years?
Well if he doesn't perform at optimum level than he really hurts himself.
Dak is playing on the tag, and he bet on himself.
 

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If Dak and Dallas don't agree to an extension, both sides lose.

Dak may get his massive contract elsewhere but it is a huge gamble that he will end up on a winning team and we all know how coaches and offensive schemes can either help or hurt QBs. If Dak trends downward, he more than likely doesn't cash in on a 2nd massive contract 4 or 5 years from now. Let's face it, Dak is a good QB but I think even the supporters (myself included) know that it is possible he could take a step back if Cooper or Smith go down. Not to mention, Dallas is a spotlight team and being successful in Dallas can produce huge endorsement deals.

Dallas won't have to commit and pay long term money to a QB but it will also mean they will have to fill a major void in the next season or two.

Both sides have to give a little to get this deal done and if no agreement is made, then everyone loses.
This is not a extension. We missed that boat by not doing it last year.. Actually they had a deal done until after the fins game. Dak has 3 layups and his agent changed the amount. Daks contract is a flat out deal and the cap feels it immediately.
 

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It may be worth financially for the Cowboys to let him play on the tag the next year or two and then sign him to a huge contract that he will hopefully have earned. The big negative maybe if playing on the tag hurts Dak mentally from being angry the Cowboys are not committing to him. However, if any player can handle that mentally I think Dak can.
 

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Players dont give two craps about which team they are on..dak will get paid somewhere..
 
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Players dont give Greek caps about which team they are on..dak will get paid somewhere..

First, yes they do. More than you seem to think. Second, yes Dak will eventually get paid somewhere but if it’s not in Dallas, it may end up being for a lot less than he wants.
 

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I think it benefits any player to have some security and guaranteed money in hand. If Dak gets the 100 plus mill guaranteed that has been reported of course that is big for him. For the team it is important to have stability at the top position and despite what some here say the Cowboys believe in Dak or they would not be haggling over 5 or 6 year deal not would they have placed an exclusive right franchise tag.
 

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First, yes they do. More than you seem to think. Second, yes Dak will eventually get paid somewhere but if it’s not in Dallas, it may end up being for a lot less than he wants.

I agree. Elway refuse to play for the Colts and said he would pursue baseball if the Colts drafted him and of course Eli refused to be selected by the Chargers.
 

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If Dak and Dallas don't agree to an extension, both sides lose.

Dak may get his massive contract elsewhere but it is a huge gamble that he will end up on a winning team and we all know how coaches and offensive schemes can either help or hurt QBs. If Dak trends downward, he more than likely doesn't cash in on a 2nd massive contract 4 or 5 years from now. Let's face it, Dak is a good QB but I think even the supporters (myself included) know that it is possible he could take a step back if Cooper or Smith go down. Not to mention, Dallas is a spotlight team and being successful in Dallas can produce huge endorsement deals.

Dallas won't have to commit and pay long term money to a QB but it will also mean they will have to fill a major void in the next season or two.

Both sides have to give a little to get this deal done and if no agreement is made, then everyone loses.
how Daks getting 31mil to wait and we have a starting qb motivated to prove hes worth what hes demanding..it would be beneficial to both of they compromised and Daks been the one unwilling.. the DC really wanted a 7 year deal much ,ike a structure, less money of course, that Mohomes did, dak wanted three , DC came to 5 dak said 4 but now this new Mahomes deal at 10 show's the DC should stay at 5 and no more then 35 give up some more guaranteed money and get it done..

if not we still have a starter to pay and a backup for insurance this season.
 

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One big problem. He has already signaled that his next pay day is of such importance to him so do you expect him to lay it all on the line each week or further change his game to avoid risking injury for the next 4 years?

Indeed. He would make business decisions on the field
 

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Both sides don't really lose.
Dak gets paid, has another year to prove himself, again. Then he gets paid or tagged again. He will make $31 million this year, and if tagged again, around $37 million next.
If no deal is reached by then, that is too far away to care or to comment about right now.

However, the team as well as fans opinions will be changed or verified as to if he is that QB or not that QB. Maybe. LOL.
Dallas will know if they have the QB they think he is or not. If he takes the team to the NFCCG, then yes he is that QB. If they miss the playoffs, with no extenuating circumstance, such as key injuries. Then maybe the dodged a bullet, and time to move on.

Then there is the in the middle scenario. Has a great year, but the team just falls short, gets beat by the better team. Simple as that.

How many times does Dak have to prove himself?

Honestly, if folks were behind the "prove himself" narrative, you'd be crowing about how the team should cave to his demand for a 4 year deal. After all, he wants the chance to prove it over that period and get paid again.
 

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If Dak and Dallas don't agree to an extension, both sides lose.

Dak may get his massive contract elsewhere but it is a huge gamble that he will end up on a winning team and we all know how coaches and offensive schemes can either help or hurt QBs. If Dak trends downward, he more than likely doesn't cash in on a 2nd massive contract 4 or 5 years from now. Let's face it, Dak is a good QB but I think even the supporters (myself included) know that it is possible he could take a step back if Cooper or Smith go down. Not to mention, Dallas is a spotlight team and being successful in Dallas can produce huge endorsement deals.

Dallas won't have to commit and pay long term money to a QB but it will also mean they will have to fill a major void in the next season or two.

Both sides have to give a little to get this deal done and if no agreement is made, then everyone loses.

To me Jerry needs to let Dak play on this Franchise tag, and put pressure on him to earn the big money contract.
If I was Jerry, I would be ready to move off of Dak. Don't pay good players franchise altering money. I know a lot of you members will disagree but to me its the obvious call.
I would take a player like Cam, Winston, or you fill in the blank QB. Dak is not a superstar so don't fall into this big money trap. No matter what happens you will be disappointed after paying him.
When Mahomes got paid, no one cared. When Wilson, Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Peyton, got paid no one said a word.
Whn the Vikes paid Cousins, Rams paid Goff, Sam Bradford getting paid by multiple teams, Wentz getting paid by the Eagles.. people chalked that up to guys getting paid but all these teams have a huge amount of regret.
Goff getting the second highest guaranteed money is idiotic. Wentz cant stay healthy.
 
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