Andy Dalton is a quality QB

Northern_Cowboy · Jul 11, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
And now that your dream is over we are in the real world now where real NFL coaches don't let QB's that make 1/10 of what the starter makes really actually get to compete for the starting job. Those lowly paid QB's are just backup QB's. In fact the 3rd string QB gets more practice time than the backup QB because the 3rd string QB is usually the QB that plays the QB of the opposing teams formations to get the team ready to play their next opponent. I'm guessing you have that same dream quite often though.
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hahaha...that's too funny Bill Bellicheck must have been the biggest idiot coach in the history of the NFL for letting Tom Brady keep the starters job over Drew Bledsoe also by your logic you are saying that Jason Garrett made a mistake by letting Dak keep the Job over Romo....glad you have finally come around on that

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armadillooutlaw · Jul 11, 2020

Dalton is a QB that can drive the bus, and could possibly have a run like Tannehill last year (when Tennessee got to the AFC Championship Game) or better if paired with a great running game (which Dallas could certainly have) and defense.
I have been a big Dak fan always and want to get Dak signed for up to 4 yrs/120 mil, but if his price gets too high (think cap space)
I would also not bat an eye at exploring potential trade options as well.
I would like to see the team have the best chance to win and just player vs player that is with Dak over Dalton by far, but if it becomes Dak at, say, 40 mil/yr or Dalton on a deal around 3 yrs/50 million I would go with Dalton and try to build an elite defense to pair with an offense that QB aside pretty much all important players are locked up on deals.

NotForLong · Jul 11, 2020

Ranching said:
Dak is really good, but I'm smart enough to see that he's not on Mahomes level.

Being able to "see" isn't about being Smart. . . It's about being obsessed or not

OGCowboy · Jul 11, 2020

Dalton is good. We’re very lucky to have him. I have an overwhelming feeling we gonna need him.

Thomas82 · Jul 11, 2020

He's easily the best backup QB we've had in years.

GimmeTheBall! · Jul 12, 2020

Ranching said:
In my opinion, Andy is a quality QB. I like Dak and I believe he will be a Cowboy for a long time. However, I've been an Andy fan for years. Here's my question, if Dak doesn't sign an extension and struggles a bit early in the season, how long until,
1. The fans start yelling for Dalton?
2. How long until MM or Jerry pull the plug on Dak?

The key is how much a chance Andy will get. On a long offensive march, It's Dalton and not Dak!

FuzzyLumpkins · Jul 12, 2020

Drunk Orton Cooper Rush and Rollout McGee are the quality of backup we've had. Dalton is a top backup.

gjkoeppen · Jul 12, 2020

basel90 said:
Reading in wonder of how impressed you are with Dak . Mediocrity must be your thing ... or you are just another Dak slobberer.
Back to the real world , I recall a Tony romo back up replacing a starter called Bledsoe .. how soon your memory forget . Just FYI . There are many examples but I will keep this simple for you .

Now lets expand on that a little. Romo was in his 4th year with the Cowboys, not signed as a 1 year backup QB and Bledsoe was at the end of his career, past his prime. Now we have a QB, Prescott, just getting into his prime and a QB, Dalton, that was just fired in favor of a rookie QB, Burrow, who hasn't had a single snap in the NFL.. Now you may be able to fool 5 year olds with your Romo/Bledsoe tale, but if you want to continue your Prescott hating dream where Dalton replaces Prescott go ahead after all it's just a dream.
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doomsday9084 · Jul 12, 2020

IMO, Dalton is one of the many QB's out there who their quality of play will be directly proportional to how well the line blocks for him. If he gets time, he will hit open receivers. If he starts getting knocked around he will make mistakes.

gjkoeppen · Jul 12, 2020

DandyDon52 said:
I imagine dalton wanted out, and they worked with him to let him go, since they have the new guy.
no sense forcing dalton to stay.

Oh so Rodgers will want to be traded because the packers drafted Love.
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DandyDon52 · Jul 12, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
Oh so Rodgers will want to be traded because the packers drafted Love.
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love is not even close to burrows, and I imagine they want to develop him a year or 2.
Not the same situation.
Burrows is going to start right away.

gjkoeppen · Jul 12, 2020

DandyDon52 said:
well you are misconstruing what I am saying lol.
on 2 of your points
1.by that I mean they think he is worth a certain amount, in a 5 year contract, but that is it. And prescott is contesting them on that, so
who knows where that leads.
2.The Jones boys tell untruths all the time, JG was the future at HC up until they fired him, and they said it many times.
When they make statements, it is not about the truth, it is about what they think they should say at the time, and they dont care if it is the truth or not.
There is usually a little truth mixed into to any lie they may tell. But you really cant go by what they are saying publicly.

Lets do a little clarification here. First all teams start out with a certain amount for a length of contract and the players usually want more that's why it's called NEGOTIATIONS, but please give us all an update on those negotiations that you no doubt have been sitting in on. Now lets look at your Garrett example. Gee I remember that Jones didn't extend Garrett's contract the last year he was here pretty much saying that Garrett had to produce or he would be gone. If Jones was bragging up Garrett wouldn't he have given him an extension before Garrett's last season?
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gjkoeppen · Jul 12, 2020

Northern_Cowboy said:
hahaha...that's too funny Bill Bellicheck must have been the biggest idiot coach in the history of the NFL for letting Tom Brady keep the starters job over Drew Bledsoe also by your logic you are saying that Jason Garrett made a mistake by letting Dak keep the Job over Romo....glad you have finally come around on that

Please find the post where I said Garrett made a mistake by letting Prescott keep starting over Romo. That's just you TRYING to twist thing around. And oh boy you went back TWENTY years to where Brady as a rookie took over for an over the hill Bledsoe.
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gjkoeppen · Jul 12, 2020

DandyDon52 said:
love is not even close to burrows, and I imagine they want to develop him a year or 2.
Not the same situation.
Burrows is going to start right away.

So then along with sitting in on the Prescott negotiations you found the time to sit in on some ASSUMED talks where Dalton asked to be traded. You've got to tell me how you get in on all of these discussions.
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Northern_Cowboy · Jul 12, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
Please find the post where I said Garrett made a mistake by letting Prescott keep starting over Romo. That's just you TRYING to twist thing around. And oh boy you went back TWENTY years to where Brady as a rookie took over for an over the hill Bledsoe.
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"And now that your dream is over we are in the real world now where real NFL coaches don't let QB's that make 1/10 of what the starter makes really actually get to compete for the starting job."

Is there something i am misunderstanding about this quote of yours? Was Jason Garrett not an NFL coach?, did Dak Prescott make even way less than 1/10 of what the starter was making? or does it not count because he never competed for the job it was just handed to him out of desperation at the time due to injuries to the starter and backup. Was he not competing for the job the entire time he had it as a rookie or was he just annointed by the hand of God which came down and touched him on his forehead. You really are something else

There are many many examples of backup QB's not making alot of money who took over and got to compete for jobs over the starters i just listed a very obvious one

PA Cowboy Fan · Jul 12, 2020

cowboygo said:
the Tony Romo lol. I mean if you take away the years he got hurt and didnt play more than half a season. All years he started his teams were fighting for a playoff spot. Wasn't mathematically eliminated until the last games of several years.

And 3 of those years was still 8-8 and he still couldn't win a win and you're in game. Just lucky the division was so bad.

Northern_Cowboy · Jul 12, 2020

PA Cowboy Fan said:
And 3 of those years was still 8-8 and he still couldn't win a win and you're in game. Just lucky the division was so bad.

He didn't play in the win and your in game in 2013..Kyle Orton did but he did keep us in it the week before when he hurt his back and kept playing to beat the skins if we lose that game we were out. I hear Prevagen is good for memory loss

PA Cowboy Fan · Jul 12, 2020

Northern_Cowboy said:
He didn't play in the win and your in game in 2013..Kyle Orton did but he did keep us in it the week before when he hurt his back and kept playing to beat the skins

Still was only 8 wins. The Romo years were a lot of up and downs and mostly downs. A lot of big time disappointments. If Romo had played in that 2013 finale I don't know if he wins. Looking at his record I would still say we lose.

8FOR!3 · Jul 12, 2020

Dak would have to be pretty awful to get benched for Dalton

Northern_Cowboy · Jul 12, 2020

PA Cowboy Fan said:
Still was only 8 wins. The Romo years were a lot of up and downs and mostly downs. A lot of big time disappointments. If Romo had played in that 2013 finale I don't know if he wins. Looking at his record I would still say we lose.

Romo lost some big games for sure but he won alot of big games too, 2013 was a prelude to 2014 and that 2013 finale against the Eagles was a close game that came down to an Orton INT at the end of the game, nobody knows for sure but i think with Romo we win that game at home

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