Marinelli May deserve an apology from some here

Cowboysheelsreds053 · Jul 14, 2020

My eyes don't lie.

TexasBoys2288 · Jul 14, 2020

Chocolate Lab said:
What good is being #1 in a stat like that if you're #19 in sacks?

Bada Bing

DuncanIso · Jul 14, 2020

Celebrated Marinelli leaving.

Ruined by the Nolan hire.

both are BBDB coaches.

can’t win.

RustyBourneHorse · Jul 14, 2020

dogunwo said:
We may have had the #1 pass rush win rate, but what are the stats on seemingly getting destroyed in the run game?

Seemingly? I saw our defence in Chicago. We DID get destroyed in the running game.

Beaker42 · Jul 15, 2020

Marinelli can suck it. He hosed our draft one too many times.

Beaker42 · Jul 15, 2020

Furboy said:
Seemingly? I saw our defence in Chicago. We DID get destroyed in the running game.

And by an average O-line. Pathetic.

Manwiththeplan · Jul 15, 2020

kumizi said:
I hate him for Taco and Trysten.

I dont think he was a terrible coach. People always want to run coaches out of town and hype up the new coaches. Rinse repeat.

meh...I blame whoever allowed him to overlook both players motivational and attitude issues. Not sure about Trysten, but Taco has talent, but he is likely to ever over come his attitude issues.

RustyBourneHorse · Jul 15, 2020

Beaker42 said:
And by an average O-line. Pathetic.

Exactly!

Hennessy_King · Jul 15, 2020

Marinelli sucked point. blank. period.

Dre11 · Jul 15, 2020

Portnoy1 said:
I kinda disagree somewhat about that. When you say the scheme got them there and they didn't finish is partially true. DLAW, QUINN , BENNETT, have high level talent. So it makes sense on talent and technique alone they would get pressure, its not necessarily scheme doing that. Scheming involves trying to get your best player in 1 on 1 matchups or getting someone free. But when you have the 3 I mentioned above on the field at the same time rushing the passer then one of those guys (specifically Quinn or Dlaw) is going to get 1 on 1 and then do there thing regardless of scheme because they are that talented. Now say Jeff Heath is always getting a free run at the QB when he blitzes or TY Crawford manages to get 7-8 sacks that would tell me that the scheme is working because his talent level isn't 7-8 sacks, he's just a jag. Schemes maximize the potential of the players in them ( or they should). So saying the scheme got players there and they didn't finish isn't necessarily all true. Just my opinion, we can agree to disagree.

we can agree they have the talent to win, but we also know that they run a scheme and that scheme it helps free them, especially when they're running stunts. your initially move is where the scheme is designed for you to go along with the technique.

Dre11 · Jul 15, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
Lets remember that you are talking to the poster that thought Garrett was a great Coach and hailed him for 10 years.

Dre11 is one of the, if not the least qualified poster to comment on coaching on this forum.

there isn't one person here who has called Garrett a great coach, we do know you've been exposed as a liar here, so it's understandable you'd tell a lie here, I always called him average to above average.

Dre11 · Jul 15, 2020

Beaker42 said:
Marinelli can suck it. He hosed our draft one too many times.

the entire staff picked our draft picks and were in on every pick.

Dre11 · Jul 15, 2020

jaythecowboy said:
There are two issues. One, the corners played a lot of off coverage. So even if the d line wins, the ball can come out quickly if the corners aren't playing close to the receivers. The second issue is Marinelli coaching the players to "stop the run on the way to the qb." This prioritizes getting upfield as quickly as possible, which would result in a better pass rush win rate, at the expense of the dt's often getting washed out of plays in the run game.

so let's get this straight, 4 of the 7 years he was here the run defense ranked in the top 10 4 times and just out side the top 10 once at 11. so 5 of the 7 years they were pretty much a top 10 rush defense getting up the field playing the run on the way to the qb
2019 11th
2018 5th
2017 8th
2016 1st
2014 8th

Dre11 · Jul 15, 2020

stasheroo said:
That's what he does.

If you want to know what wrong is, look no further than any opinion he has on anything.

He says 'down', rest assured that the correct answer is 'up'.

dude you've been wrong here as much as anyone...lol

Verdict · Jul 15, 2020

Tangle_Foot said:
I will apologize for suggesting he should use a Hoveround on the sidelines, but that's it

Let’s not be hasty.

Portnoy1 · Jul 15, 2020

Dre11 said:
we can agree they have the talent to win, but we also know that they run a scheme and that scheme it helps free them, especially when they're running stunts. your initially move is where the scheme is designed for you to go along with the technique.

Keep in mind though, those stunts are sometimes a detriment and we can stunt guys out of gaps. If you recall they tapped the breaks on the stunts later in the season and didn't do so as much (probably for that reason).

Dre11 · Jul 15, 2020

hambone63 said:
Rod pounded the table for

Ryan Russell
Joey Ivey
Taco Charlton
Trysten Hill
Ben Gardner
Jordan Carrell
Charles Tapper

false, they were picks of the organization, Hill"s been here 1 year. Taco had attitude issues, was ranked as late 1st rounder by most scouts. the issue lays with the Cowboys defensive philosophy that started long before Marinelli, they never allocated resources to the defense for the most part, it was the offense they put they're eggs in, also, Stephen with his tight negotiations never perused big FA that can help on defense.

Dre11 · Jul 15, 2020

Portnoy1 said:
Keep in mind though, those stunts are sometimes a detriment and we can stunt guys out of gaps. If you recall they tapped the breaks on the stunts later in the season and didn't do so as much (probably for that reason).

but as I state the run defense was ranked in the top 10 , 4 of the 7 years he was here and 11 last year, even with running stunts. it's really about the players execution of those stunts

jaythecowboy · Jul 15, 2020

Dre11 said:
so let's get this straight, 4 of the 7 years he was here the run defense ranked in the top 10 4 times and just out side the top 10 once at 11. so 5 of the 7 years they were pretty much a top 10 rush defense getting up the field playing the run on the way to the qb
2019 11th
2018 5th
2017 8th
2016 1st
2014 8th

There was a drop off in dt play last year. Plus Robert Quinn pretty much went wide every play with no attempt to stop the run.

Dre11 · Jul 15, 2020

jaythecowboy said:
There was a drop off in dt play last year. Plus Robert Quinn pretty much went wide every play with no attempt to stop the run.

ok and? Quinn wasn't a good run stopper to begin with, Stephen Jones failed to land McCoy last season according to McCoy himself instead went out and signed a bunch of fillers on 1 year deals.

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