Dak just made a huge mistake

Fuzzee said:

Maybe DAK is not a believer in the Cowboys and wants to move on to another team..... seems like something been blocking the negotiations the whole time.....DAK

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What team could he possibly go to that

A: have at least as much talent we have on offense
and
B: Doesn't already have their franchise QB?

He should have signed

Reverend Conehead said:

Me too. Would that I could get paid 100 million for something, granted football is a perishable skill, but if you could get 100 million guaranteed, all you need is a bare modicum of investing skill to be set for life. Ain't no one offering me that kind of money. If I got that for 5 years of work, I would make my proper safe investments and buy a houseboat in a nice area and retire. Play guitar, write some books. Have fun.

At one point, I considered a contract to teach English in Saudi Arabia for a big pile of money (not anywhere near 100 mil, but good money), but I turned it down. It was Saudi Arabia, so you might be able to figure out why. I won't explain it because I don't want the thread to turn political. I would have had a nice pile of bucks upon return to the US, though not NFL-style money. If they had offered me 100 million and iron-clad safety guarantees, I would have said yes.

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TO PLAY A KIDS GAME WOW lol..if I could only been a better athlete and play now ...Its a windfall.

Big_D said:

I definitely think the possibility of no 2020 season played a role in this.

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its very real,yup

PAPPYDOG said:

Lets all band together and our only goal being the glory of the STAR!!!
Let's start winning some games and making some good championship strides in the playoffs!!!!!.
Go, BOYS!!!!

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if only for a year, I AGREE

Reverend Conehead said:

Dak isn't anywhere near Mahomes in skill level. Dak is a good quarterback; Mahomes is a great one. Jones offered Dak fair market value, but Dak is demanding more, thinking he's better than he really is. At some point it's just not worth it and you're better off moving on, drafting a QB. This is that point. I'm not sure how they'll jettison him. They may play him on the franchise tag and then see what value they can get in a trade. They might trade him now and play Dalton as a stop-gap. But giving away the farm for an above-average quarterback makes no sense and Jerry knows it. Good for Jerry for having a backbone. I'm criticizing Dak for what I see as a bad choice, as are many fans. If you disagree, that's your right. I guess you'll be criticizing Jerry for having a backbone when others of us see that as a good thing. That's fine. We don't have to agree, but I call it how I see it.

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Man, I'm just not as willing to return to those garbage years between Aikman and Romo as easily as yall seemingly are.

Jerry had a backbone and fired Jimmy J., how did that turn out for us again? No SB's for 25 years? Oh ok. We have an arguably top 10 QB, with a top tier offense around him. What more could yall want? Seriously, answer this one.

Oh, and drafting/trading for a franchise QB is waaay harder than you think....

88sAndHeartbreak said:

Man, I'm just not as willing to return to those garbage years between Aikman and Romo as easily as yall seemingly are.

Jerry had a backbone and fired Jimmy J., how did that turn out for us again? No SB's for 25 years? Oh ok. We have an arguably top 10 QB, with a top tier offense around him. What more could yall want? Seriously, answer this one.

Oh, and drafting/trading for a franchise QB is waaay harder than you think....

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Those years between Aikman and Romo the team wasn't just missing a QB. Smart decision making, quality drafting, etc etc. Sure Parcells did his thing for 4 years, but that was after Jerry dug a whole that was just too deep to get out of. There's talent here with a much better coach and FO unlike back in 2000. Things were pretty bleak at that time.

Whyjerry said:

McCarthy’s hand is on this. I am sure a deal got done if Big Mike asked for it. It might actually be Dak’s last season in Dallas.

Who needs a QB next season - NE, Jax, Oakland, LAC, Washington, Chicago and Carolina. Have to assume Lawrence and Fields land in Jacksonville, Washington or Carolina. Las Vegas??? Not bad, maybe. NE clearly not bad. Chicago? Who the hell wants to play there. LAC is a dumpster fire. It’s pretty slim pickings for Dak.

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I dont think the Chargers, Panthers or Commanders (?) will be looking next year.
More likely Jets, Bills, Steelers, Colts, Lions would be looking

88sAndHeartbreak said:

Man, I'm just not as willing to return to those garbage years between Aikman and Romo as easily as yall seemingly are.

Jerry had a backbone and fired Jimmy J., how did that turn out for us again? No SB's for 25 years? Oh ok. We have an arguably top 10 QB, with a top tier offense around him. What more could yall want? Seriously, answer this one.

Oh, and drafting/trading for a franchise QB is waaay harder than you think....

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Jerry's mistake was not that he didn't sign Dak now. It came when he didn't sign Dak to an extension after his 3rd year. He just now figured out that he can't make up for that mistake by signing Dak to a 4 year cap crippling contract. There's really no good way to structure a 4 year new contract paying the man 35M a year. There's no rookie year left to dump signing bonus on.

Northern_Cowboy said:

What team could he possibly go to that

A: have at least as much talent we have on offense
and
B: Doesn't already have their franchise QB?

He should have signed

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....and isnt going to be in rebuild mode.

88sAndHeartbreak said:

Man, I'm just not as willing to return to those garbage years between Aikman and Romo as easily as yall seemingly are.

Jerry had a backbone and fired Jimmy J., how did that turn out for us again? No SB's for 25 years? Oh ok. We have an arguably top 10 QB, with a top tier offense around him. What more could yall want? Seriously, answer this one.

Oh, and drafting/trading for a franchise QB is waaay harder than you think....

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Agreed. I just got done posting in another thread how as much as peeple want too put a positive spin on this because they don’t like Dak or don’t think he’s worth it, they better hope they win it all this year because replacing him will set this team back a year or two and that’s eeven IF the next QB works out to be average. That’s a BIG if, as yoo said, it’s not that easy.

Big_D said:

Those years between Aikman and Romo the team wasn't just missing a QB. Smart decision making, quality drafting, etc etc. Sure Parcells did his thing for 4 years, but that was after Jerry dug a whole that was just too deep to get out of. There's talent here with a much better coach and FOunlike back in 2000. Things were pretty bleak at that time.

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You're right and I dont want to return to that instability. If we start over at QB next year... we probably won't recover from it.

88sAndHeartbreak said:

Man, I'm just not as willing to return to those garbage years between Aikman and Romo as easily as yall seemingly are.

Jerry had a backbone and fired Jimmy J., how did that turn out for us again? No SB's for 25 years? Oh ok. We have an arguably top 10 QB, with a top tier offense around him. What more could yall want? Seriously, answer this one.

Oh, and drafting/trading for a franchise QB is waaay harder than you think....

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Not harder than I think at all. I'm well aware of how hard it is to draft a good quarterback, but I'm also aware that it can be done. I'm for Jones having a backbone when he's right and when he's giving the team the chance to have a championship. That's the case here. It's because overpaying Dak is a guarantee to return to the garbage years. Overplaying Dak would be like going with Mark Rypien (who was quite capable, btw.) playing for the 1987 Broncos. That team couldn't win the Super Bowl with a great quarterback in John Elway. There's no way they could have won with just a good quarterback in Mark Rypien. That's what Dak is asking us to do. He's good. He's Mark Rypien-level good, not John Elway or Joe Montana-level elite. If this were a straight-up market, we might get away with paying Dak what he wants, but it's not. It's a salary-capped market, meaning we have exactly the same money that each other team has to spend. It's artificial, but it's what the league chose. If it were straight economics, the Cowboys are the most successful team in the league financially and so Jerry could just outbid everyone else for the players he wants. But he can't. He has to leave money under the cap to pay for highly skilled players on both our lines, our wide receivers, running backs, and especially our defense. Overpay, and you'll end up with a level of players from scrubs to average. And that's a guarantee that no quarterback, no matter how good, is good enough for a championship. No, thank you. If you hated the mediocre years, sit back and enjoy because that's what you'll get more of.

So, yes, it's very hard to draft the right quarterback, but with Dak having pushed Jerry to the point he has, Jerry has no choice. We can't get a championship with Dak+scrubs and average guys, so he'll have to have his scouts do the best job possible sizing up college quarterbacks and maybe trade up for the best one possible. Is it a guarantee of success? No, of course not. There isn't any move that is full-proof guaranteed. But it's what you have to do when your above-average quarterback puts you in the position Dak has put Jerry in. So, good for Jerry for having a backbone. When he's right, a backbone is a great thing, and doesn't compare to his blunder getting rid of Jimmy. It's compares to his backbone with DeMarco Murry. Murray wasn't worth what he was demanding. Dak isn't worth what he's demanding. So let him go. It's better for the team.

Flamma said:

Jerry's mistake was not that he didn't sign Dak now. It came when he didn't sign Dak to an extension after his 3rd year. He just now figured out that he can't make up for that mistake by signing Dak to a 4 year cap crippling contract. There's really no good way to structure a 4 year new contract paying the man 35M a year. There's no rookie year left to dump signing bonus on.

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Isnt that in part due to Dak not wanting to sign after a down year.

It isnt strange how all of these QB's - Goff, Wentz, Tannehill, Garoppolo and Mahomes signed big contracts AFTER leading their team in a successful season.

88sAndHeartbreak said:

You're right and I dont want to return to that instability. If we start over at QB next year... we probably won't recover from it.

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You make it sound like they were winning Super Bowls? The team just went 8-8 with that same QB all while having a shot at the division and a playoff spot. Recover from what exactly? See how he plays under McCarthy and take it from there.

CowboyoWales said:

Isnt that in part due to Dak not wanting to sign after a down year.

It isnt strange how all of these QB's - Goff, Wentz, Tannehill, Garoppolo and Mahomes signed big contracts AFTER leading their team in a successful season.

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Please tell me how having 4900 passing yds. In a season is having a "down year". Also remember that we had 41 drops last year.

Sorry if this was answered already, but if this upcoming season is cancelled, this means Dak doesn't earn a single penny this season?

CowboyoWales said:

Isnt that in part due to Dak not wanting to sign after a down year.

It isnt strange how all of these QB's - Goff, Wentz, Tannehill, Garoppolo and Mahomes signed big contracts AFTER leading their team in a successful season.

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2018 was a down year? Dak doesn't play run defense. As fans we have our opinions. But Jerry is the GM and has to have some foresight. He does this every year and it's his job. He could have signed him back then for 28-30 mil and still had one year left on his rookie deal to dump bonus money. That would make his entire contract team friendly. But he's backed himself into a corner now.

CIWhitefish said:

The problem with this is that the cap is either going down or staying the same next year more than likely. That means if he is franchised again he will take up 37 million dollars worth of cap space. Is already the number one quarterback in cap space taken up this year and with the cap not going up I don't think Dallas can afford to up that. I truly believe he's here this year and we can't afford him next year.

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Well, dang, didn't really think about that. I figured the third tag would've been very difficult, but the 2nd was easier. Then actually, it's an even better for decision for Dak I feel. He has to play great and stay healthy one year, and if he does, he hits the jackpot (likely with some other team).

Red Dragon said:

Sorry if this was answered already, but if this upcoming season is cancelled, this means Dak doesn't earn a single penny this season?

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My guess is no. But it gets pushed to next season. But I can't be positive.

I'd start DiNucci week one to prove a point.

A) the season won't last more than 4 weeks

B) no-one will be watching

C) Dak likely just decided his own fate in Dallas past 2022 regardless.