Dak just made a huge mistake

Whyjerry

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I dont think the Chargers, Panthers or Commanders (?) will be looking next year.
More likely Jets, Bills, Steelers, Colts, Lions would be looking

No way on the Jets, Bills and Lions. Colts and Steelers are set for the next couple season. How do they pay Dak 40 million? You see the Steelers moving on from Big Ben to Dak. No way. Matt Stafford gets paid a ton and is 32. No way they replace him with Dak.
 

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Absurd and ridiculous hyperbole. Now you're not even arguing. You're just making up nonsense. We don't have scrubs and averages now. That's what we'll end up with if we get salary cap hamstrung. You should bother to write about what I actually said and not make up ridiculous straw men. Wanna keep Amari Cooper on the team? Wanna keep a quality O-line? Wanna acquire a high-quality safety? If you want that, you can't allow yourself to be salary-cap-hamstrung. I'm sick and tired of the bogus "what the market will bear" bull****. It's not a normal market, as I explained. It's salary capped. That limits what a team can do. You can't throw elite money at a pretty good quarterback and expect to build a championship team.
So you're saying one player will hamstring the salary cap? Dak isnt asking for 50m/yr. Amari, Zeke, D. Law, Ceedee and Jaylon are all locked in. Only big name player to sign next year is Gallup? If we let Dak go like most of you suggesting, there will be a big question mark at QB and possibly waste our good players prime years. We are so close to SB caliber team, and yall wana ruin it.

You cant buy a championship team, you find good players that fit your system and stick with them.

Point out the nonsense.
And enough of your "haven't won anything since" argument. The team was mismanaged for years, but then realized it had to invest in a quality O-line, not just skilled players. The result was one of the best O-lines in football, and NFC East championship, and one bogus call away from the NFC Championship. That year was 2014, and it was the best we've done (tied with 2016) toward getting that Lombardi. It's because Jerry realized he has to build a whole team, not blow all his cap money on the skill positions.

Money has to be available for great lines. Not pretty good ones. Great ones, and we've been close to that with the O one, not as close with the D one, but money must be left for them both. Or no championship, and you can squawk "no championship since" [babble, babble, babble].

So now you can go back to finding your next straw man and distorting what people write instead actually responding to it.
Did the Chiefs have a GREAT O-line? No. They had a great QB and a great team. Much like the Patriots did for all those years. Great O-line's dont win SB's, great teams do.
 

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So you're saying one player will hamstring the salary cap? Dak isnt asking for 50m/yr. Amari, Zeke, D. Law, Ceedee and Jaylon are all locked in. Only big name player to sign next year is Gallup? If we let Dak go like most of you suggesting, there will be a big question mark at QB and possibly waste our good players prime years. We are so close to SB caliber team, and yall wana ruin it.

You cant buy a championship team, you find good players that fit your system and stick with them.

Point out the nonsense.

Did the Chiefs have a GREAT O-line? No. They had a great QB and a great team. Much like the Patriots did for all those years. Great O-line's dont win SB's, great teams do.

It all depends upon how close we are and whether the disappointment of 2019 can be attributed to the coaching.

If we are close then im sure we'll tag Dak for a second year and restructure (Dlaw/Coop and/or Zeke)...... though i'm sure this is the last option we'd want to take as from 2022 we could be looking to cut one or more ( with minimal dead cap space).

I'd guess that MM's concern would be on the Defense, that on occasions capitulated to the run and couldn,t take away in the air and he may prefer to sign a better quality Defense (we'll need a number, especially secondary) and a bus driver rather than Dak.
 

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France won the day. Dak is a step closer to free agency. The agents job is to get Dak the most money he can possibly get. If Dak plays well this season the Cowboys will have to pay him more money next season or let him test free agency. The reality is Dak should play better next season because of the talent and coaches around him. It will be interesting to see what happens because the young man wants to be a Cowboy.
Yes France won. . . He is my Hero.
 

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Can't believe it.

Lost a lot of respect for him.

He clearly is putting himself before the team when a fair offer was given to him.

I have a feeling this situation will not work out in his favor.

Disappointed in Prescott.

How did he make a huge mistake? Hes going to get 31 mIl and will be a free agent again. if tagged again he gets 37 mil. Dak lost no money if he is not injured. If the cowboys walk away from him, he gets a current market deal. 37 to 42 Mil per year.

So let me get this straight. This man plays out his contract with no security at less than 2 mill with the 2nd most wins to Tom Brady in that span, he bet on himself, and now youve lost respect for him for betting on himself again. Please explain your logic.

Hes been more consistent/durable/reliable than anyone that Jerry just paid.
 

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How did he make a huge mistake? Hes going to get 31 mIl and will be a free agent again. if tagged again he gets 37 mil. Dak lost no money if he is not injured. If the cowboys walk away from him, he gets a current market deal. 37 to 42 Mil per year.

So let me get this straight. This man plays out his contract with no security at less than 2 mill with the 2nd most wins to Tom Brady in that span, he bet on himself, and now youve lost respect for him for betting on himself again. Please explain your logic.

Hes been more consistent/durable/reliable than anyone that Jerry just paid.

This is a team sport.

Dak didn't win those games by himself.

He's had arguably the best rusher behind him for the last 4 years.

The front office had to trade a 2019 1st round pick to get him a receiver so that the offense could actually produce points.

He's had a top 5 oline for every season and arguably the best oline in 2016.

Dak has weapons around him that propels his game. Take away those weapons and Dak propels no one.

Dak put himself before the team. I don't respect players that do that.
 

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This is a team sport.

Dak didn't win those games by himself.

He's had arguably the best rusher behind him for the last 4 years.

The front office had to trade a 2019 1st round pick to get him a receiver so that the offense could actually produce points.

He's had a top 5 oline for every season and arguably the best oline in 2016.

Dak has weapons around him that propels his game. Take away those weapons and Dak propels no one.

Dak put himself before the team. I don't respect players that do that.

I dont disagree with alot of what you said but it works both ways. Dak has also been Grossly underpaid since year 2. He never complained. Amari was a cast away and he excelled when he teamed up with Dak. This team won 3 games the year Dak got here, and he went 13 and 3 and made minimal mistakes.

If anyone has put himself above the team, its Zeke. Not only that Dak is willing to take a 1 year deal at less than what the team was offering in order to prove himself. How is that putting himself before the team?
 

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Can't believe it.

Lost a lot of respect for him.

He clearly is putting himself before the team when a fair offer was given to him.

I have a feeling this situation will not work out in his favor.

Disappointed in Prescott.
Pro Management eh?
 

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Yall didn't want to pay him the contract that was offered and NOW you're mad that he didn't take it and chose to play on the franchise tag? You really can't make this stuff up with the fans on this site. The offense is loaded. The Jones family will end up paying more money next year. They are the ones who made a big mistake.
 

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I love how players are supposed to roll over or they're "clearly themselves before the team." The Cowboys could have signed him. They chose not to, and now they'll pay.
No, you’re wrong. They’ve tried to sign him for over a year. He has turned down every offer.
 

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That his name and your right he is not a can’t miss guy but I can’t see the Chargers giving up on him after a year.

They can’t handle a rebuild in new town. It’s a good team besides the QB. I am not saying Dak is a definitive fit there I am just saying they could be in the market for a QB. I will add this, if Atlanta tanks this season Ryan could get a new home. Stiff potential competition for Dak. My main point is that if his agent thinks a bidding war will develop he is wrong. It will be 2-3 teams tops and besides NE are not great spots. Dak was a good fit in Dallas. He may have overplayed his hand.
 

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I dont assume anything, I know there are millionaires on this board so when it comes to people's jobs, I put respect on everyone's name. Anyways...

I understand 35M/yr is alot but Mahomes just reset the market with 45M/yr. Dak will get no where near Mahomes, but now the market is around $40M for top 10 talent whether yall like it or not... Or whether you think Dak is top 10 or not.
I totally disagree. This line of thinking is what gets teams in financial trouble. Just because one QB gets paid X amount of dollars does not mean the next one should get more. That’s stupid logic.
 

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They can’t handle a rebuild in new town. It’s a good team besides the QB. I am not saying Dak is a definitive fit there I am just saying they could be in the market for a QB. I will add this, if Atlanta tanks this season Ryan could get a new home. Stiff potential competition for Dak. My main point is that if his agent thinks a bidding war will develop he is wrong. It will be 2-3 teams tops and besides NE are not great spots. Dak was a good fit in Dallas. He may have overplayed his hand.
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I just did a little more reading about the Dak situation, including his brother’s Twitter comments. I have been an ardent Dak supporter since day 1. Defended him endlessly here. I think he is a good QB. That said, I am off the Dak bandwagon. The Dallas offer was more than fair. The guy is being greedy or doesn’t want to play here. I am 100 percent sure of this. Either way screw him. I hope Dalton beats him out of the starting job. Won’t happen, but maybe. Dak and his agent are idiots. Sure it worked for Cousins but he was doing that to get out of NFL purgatory in Washington. Dallas is a great spot for him. I’m done with Dak.
 

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I totally disagree. This line of thinking is what gets teams in financial trouble. Just because one QB gets paid X amount of dollars does not mean the next one should get more. That’s stupid logic.
That's exactly what it means. Before this year the salary cap went up every year, because of the new tv/brand deals the NFL was getting. They have to share that with the players which makes the players market go up the way it is.
 

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That's exactly what it means. Before this year the salary cap went up every year, because of the new tv/brand deals the NFL was getting. They have to share that with the players which makes the players market go up the way it is.
No, it does not. Not by any means. It’s economically stupid and makes zero sense. Just because the cap goes up does not automatically mean a specific player should get more than the last contract at the same position. Accomplishments, talent, potential, team situations, etc. all come into play. Derrick Henry signed a new contract today. He was paid less than Zeke Elliott. Using your logic, he should’ve been paid more than Elliott. It’s blatantly stupid logic.
 

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I dont assume anything, I know there are millionaires on this board so when it comes to people's jobs, I put respect on everyone's name. Anyways...

I understand 35M/yr is alot but Mahomes just reset the market with 45M/yr. Dak will get no where near Mahomes, but now the market is around $40M for top 10 talent whether yall like it or not... Or whether you think Dak is top 10 or not.

You've just made the argument for NOT signing Dak.

He'll need to go to Jacksonville or Indianapolis if he wants the money.
 

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Hard to think there’s a huge diff between 35m and 36m per season...but what do us poor folk know?
 

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what team is going to want to spend 13+ of the cap on Dak? if Dallas doesn't who would?
On average, the last 10 Super Bowl-winning quarterbacks have accounted for 8.4 percent of a team's salary cap, according to overthecap.com. but Dak needs more since he's so much better than all the other winning quarterbacks.
 
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