Dak just made a huge mistake

Adreme

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what team is going to want to spend 13+ of the cap on Dak? if Dallas doesn't who would?
On average, the last 10 Super Bowl-winning quarterbacks have accounted for 8.4 percent of a team's salary cap, according to overthecap.com. but Dak needs more since he's so much better than all the other winning quarterbacks.

If you ONLY use SB winning QBs then you do not have a good sample size especially when getting out of the mess that was the original rookie wage scale only happened about 5 years ago and suddenly we have Tom Brady as an outlier. Now if you start looking at playoff QBs over the past 5 years or even championship game QBs over the past 5 years you are going to see a lot of QBs on not rookie deals eating up the cap (I believe all 6 NFC playoff teams had a QB on a big money non rookie deal).

As for teams bidding on Dak you have no shortage of them. If you look at the next 2 years from now I can probably name a dozen teams who might want to throw their hat in the ring.
 

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Can't believe it.

Lost a lot of respect for him.

He clearly is putting himself before the team when a fair offer was given to him.

I have a feeling this situation will not work out in his favor.

Disappointed in Prescott.
Disappointed in fans who think the problem was Dak being too uppity to not just take what they felt like giving him.
 

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If you ONLY use SB winning QBs then you do not have a good sample size especially when getting out of the mess that was the original rookie wage scale only happened about 5 years ago and suddenly we have Tom Brady as an outlier. Now if you start looking at playoff QBs over the past 5 years or even championship game QBs over the past 5 years you are going to see a lot of QBs on not rookie deals eating up the cap (I believe all 6 NFC playoff teams had a QB on a big money non rookie deal).

As for teams bidding on Dak you have no shortage of them. If you look at the next 2 years from now I can probably name a dozen teams who might want to throw their hat in the ring.
I have to disagree with you, what team is going to want to use that much of the salary cap on dak.
 

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I have to disagree with you, what team is going to want to use that much of the salary cap on dak.

Well for starters you are going to have Saints and Bucs who will be moving on from their HoF and will want to keep the window open. Then of course you have the Bears who will want to get the most out of the window they built on defense. Of course there is the Raiders who will likely be finished rebuilding and flush with young talent so upgrading the QB position would be huge. Then Colts who are loaded with talent but will not have a QB in 2 years. The Steelers will probably be looking at Big Ben retiring in 2 years so that is right on time. Jags and Panthers are a darkhorse because while they both need a QB they will likely still be rebuilding. After that you have the 3 teams that drafted QBs recently who will likely be looking to move on in 2 years in Browns, Jets, and possibly Bills with the Browns right at the prime of their window in 2 years. Two other teams to keep an eye on are the Giants and Washington TBD's as they might have seen enough after year 3 to want to move on. The last darkhorse team is the Patriots who have the capspace, the question is how all in they area willing to go.

Some of these teams will be drafting but we are right at a huge changing of the guard for the QB position and that is going to mean a lot of teams wanting a new QB because their longtime starter is gone or a legend retired.
 

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No, it does not. Not by any means. It’s economically stupid and makes zero sense. Just because the cap goes up does not automatically mean a specific player should get more than the last contract at the same position. Accomplishments, talent, potential, team situations, etc. all come into play. Derrick Henry signed a new contract today. He was paid less than Zeke Elliott. Using your logic, he should’ve been paid more than Elliott. It’s blatantly stupid logic.
The thing is Dak isnt asking to be the highest paid QB, its reported he is asking for 35-38m for 4 years... but who truly knows what the hang up is. Those numbers are understandable all things considered. That's all I'm trying to say...
 

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You've just made the argument for NOT signing Dak.

He'll need to go to Jacksonville or Indianapolis if he wants the money.
How so? Apparently the money isnt the problem, the terms are. This whole idea that some Cowboys "fans" have that Dak should shut up and take whatever Jerry gives him, otherwise he's being greedy... is illogic
 

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Yeah, Im sure you're right.

He only cares about himself.

Losing fans is not a good thing to do as a player.
Most fans realize it’s a business
And players aren’t gonna take millions less from a team than they can get on the market
This is dak’s first negotiated contract and no player is going to take one for the team on their first one
People talk about Brady but should really go look at Brady’s contracts
He didn’t take less early on in his career, he did at the end. And he left because the team lied to him about why they needed him to take less. They told him it was to keep a better team around him but mostly it was just for the owner
 

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Can't believe it.

Lost a lot of respect for him.

He clearly is putting himself before the team when a fair offer was given to him.

I have a feeling this situation will not work out in his favor.

Disappointed in Prescott.

I think the biggest burden is on Dak. He will be the starting QB this season but by not taking the security of a new long term deal he puts himself in a position of having to prove himself in order to get a deal done next year. If He is not putting up big numbers and does not get this team to advance deep into post season he could find himself on the outside looking in. In my view this is a big gamble on Dak part.
 

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Spagnola brings up some very good points. Anthony Spencer situation could very well happen to Dak!

And to me, Dak's got to be kicking himself. Sure would have been nice to have a $50 million signing bonus transferred into your account today. TODAY! To have the security of at least $100 million guaranteed.

But now, assuming the season starts on time and lasts all 17 weeks without interruption, Dak will get paid $1.85 million per week … for one season. NO guarantees after Jan. 3, 2021, the presumptive final game of the 2020 season. Plus do the math on the possibility of missing four games. That's like $7.3 million down the drain if the NFL and the NFLPA don't come to some sort of compensation agreement if COVID-19 causes a delay or interruption.

Injuries are a part of this game, too. Go ask Anthony Spencer. The Cowboys defensive end played on consecutive franchise tags in 2012 and 2013. But in 2013, what was first thought to be a simple bone bruise during training camp turned into microfracture knee surgery. He played one game that season and became a free agent in 2014. No surprise, no team came calling.


Spencer ended up signing a one-year, $2 million prove-it deal with the Cowboys, only $250,000 guaranteed. Played in 13 games, no starts. Just half-a-sack. Took that into free agency in 2015.

Next year, signs a minimum $980,000, one-year deal with Saints, just $230,000 guaranteed. Was injured during training camp. Placed on injured reserve at the final roster cut. Then released off IR in October. Never played another game. Nor made another dollar in the NFL.

Now, folks will say Dak is betting on himself. Has another great season and the price goes up on a long-term deal next year, or he is tagged again, this time in the vicinity of $37.7 million if the two sides can't come to an agreement on a long-term deal, but now at 28 years of age. So nearly $69.1 million over two years. That averages out to $34.55 million a year – exactly what the Cowboys were offering over five years. But doesn't come with the $100 million the Cowboys would have guaranteed. Nor a signing bonus. Today.

So now Prescott becomes just the third NFL quarterback to play on the franchise tag. Drew Brees did so in 2005 in San Diego and Kurt Cousins did so twice with Washington, 2016-17.

Brees started all 16 games for the Chargers in 2005. But of all things, in the final game of the season, while trying to recover a fumble, he was hit hard on the ground, tearing the labrum in his right, throwing shoulder. Welcome to free agency, big guy. Now we know the rest of that story.

With all, including the Chargers, scared of that shoulder – the Dolphins wanted to sign Brees but failed him on his physical much to the chagrin of then head coach Nick Saban. And the Chargers were offering five years but with a heavily incentive-laced contract and just a $2 million base in 2006 – he continued searching for a team.

The Saints came marching in, with first-year head coach Sean Payton, trying to revive a franchise after Hurricane Katrina decimated New Orleans. Brees would sign a six-year, $60 million deal. But here was the catch: He received $10 million in 2006 and there was a safety net $12 million option bonus for 2007 to qualify the rest. The Saints were couching their bet on his shoulder. Drew won – and so did the Saints.

As for Anthony Spencer, well, he did pocket $19.5 million those two franchise seasons. But only $2 million after that. His injury basically prematurely ended his career after eight seasons. Thus, the absolute downside of playing under the tag: A huge "what if" hangs overhead.


Well, as I said, that's that for Dak this year. No more contract talk. Other than his first, for sure, virtual interview when asked about the decision.
 

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How so? Apparently the money isnt the problem, the terms are. This whole idea that some Cowboys "fans" have that Dak should shut up and take whatever Jerry gives him, otherwise he's being greedy... is illogic

Hang on, you stated the market was $40m and then you come down to $35-$38....I wish you were Dak's agent, the way youre going you'd soon be paying us to let play in Dallas.

There reportedly wasnt an issue over the money....when it was $35m and spread over 5 years....when you start mentioning $40m for 4 years, we cant afford it, let him walk.
 

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We didnt suck either. We had the lowest ranked Sp. Teams, a average Defense, and a below average coach. 8-8 isnt all on Dak.

He was part of the problem. All those areas stink so you fix them by overpaying the QB? See what he does with a real coach before a new deal. With the current situation and a possible no season, the long term deal didn't even make sense at this point.
 

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I love how players are supposed to roll over or they're "clearly themselves before the team." The Cowboys could have signed him. They chose not to, and now they'll pay.
Yep

Unless they hit big in the draft or FA.
 

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He was part of the problem. All those areas stink so you fix them by overpaying the QB? See what he does with a real coach before a new deal. With the current situation and a possible no season, the long term deal didn't even make sense at this point.

Critical thinking. I like you.
 

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How silly!!! Dak should just accept any offer while Zeke, Demarcus Lawrence and other players didn't settle. Dak Prescott will make $69 million the next two years, but he's hurting himself. Jerry is hurting the team because all that money counts against the salary cap.
 

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Didn’t Dak want a shorter deal to “get in” on the supposedly increasing tv deal or something?

Seems like he’s money hungry to me. I don’t blame him for wanting more but QB careers are much longer than most positions. Who cares if he gets another contract 1 or 2 years later. Take that 100+ million guaranteed and work for your next one.

Now he’s risking it all and especially during the current state of the world. Seems shortsighted and he’s getting bad advice.
 
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