Thoughts on what could happen with Dak

People need to quit blaming Dak’s agent. Last I checked, the agent works for Dak, and was chosen by Dak. It’s not as if Dak gave up his right to decide on what he ultimately wanted

Rayman70 said:

Because it was a decent offer and he passed. MAKES NO SENSE.

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You must be completely discounting the fact Dak was going to sign the offer if their were enough time before the deadline.

The Dak and C'boys situation will be resolved in one way or another. I'm not worried about it in the least. I'm for whatever is best for the team. Dak and his agent can do whatever suits their fancy and the Dallas FO will do the same. The results will be determined by those directly involved. If Dak and his agent can't arrive at a reasonable offer and the Cowboys can't either, so be it. I'll be pulling for the team to prosper in the end, come what may. Simple stuff.

Rayman70 said:

More I ponder this, I look at Tom Brady and how he was the ultimate team guy and signed team friendly deals with NE so they could build a winner. Now compare that to Dak..a great dude on and off the field, but the 1 difference is, his agent and his own agenda. He wants to explore his options after 2020,CLEARLY. Where does that leave Dallas and the fans,his team mates? How do you think his team mates will look at him NOW? My guess is it will be alot of mixed emotions. I think what will happen is Dak may find himself traded while on the tag by this years trade deadline, just out of fear that we lose him and get absolutely nothing after the season. ITS JUST GOOD BUSINESS. I may be very wrong on this. Thoughts? BTW sorry for another Dak thread lol..i FEEL THIS TOPIC OF TRADING HIM IS RELEVANT NOW,MUCH MORE THAN EVER. Its back on the table as far as I'm concerned. I'm guessing Jerrys ego,stephens ego won't put up with much more of this.

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Dak as a short timer is bad juju for the team. Trade him and move on. We've got a starting caliber QB on the bench. Make use of him.

pansophy said:

...but Brady taking less is part of the reason they have that history...

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He had Superbowls before he took less

ItzKelz said:

He had Superbowls before he took less

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He was on his rookie deal...so still taking little cap space...brady never really tried to maximize his salary and it’s hard to argue that didn’t help them get to so many super bowls.

pansophy said:

He was on his rookie deal...so still taking little cap space...brady never really tried to maximize his salary and it’s hard to argue that didn’t help them get to so many super bowls.

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Because he won Superbowls with an organization that had showed them they knew how to do it.

ItzKelz said:

Because he won Superbowls with an organization that had showed them they knew how to do it.

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So what you are saying is that if the Cowboys had been successful than Dak would be incentivized to take less money, but since we haven't, it makes sense to try to maximize his money?

Either way it doesn't seem like Dak really wants to be here long term. If it truly about maximizing money, no state income tax in Texas makes it tough for a lot of other places to compete in terms of actual money Dak keeps.

pansophy said:

So what you are saying is that if the Cowboys had been successful than Dak would be incentivized to take less money, but since we haven't, it makes sense to try to maximize his money?

Either way it doesn't seem like Dak really wants to be here long term. If it truly about maximizing money, no state income tax in Texas makes it tough for a lot of other places to compete in terms of actual money Dak keeps.

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If youre not winning rings its about the money. Brady and now even Mahomes are proof of that.....although I would have made the chiefs prove it wasnt a one ring thing before I signed that deal if I was Pat

mcmvp said:

People need to quit blaming Dak’s agent. Last I checked, the agent works for Dak, and was chosen by Dak. It’s not as if Dak gave up his right to decide on what he ultimately wanted

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No, you blame Dak and France. Up until now Dak has made great decisions but this is his worst. Dak sat back and let France run with this while his brand has taken a consistent shot in the media. He he has gone two years without getting paid because France and CAA want to use Dak as an example. They don't believe in Dak. He is their recruitment tool. They view him about like Cowturd does. He needs to realize if he doesn't fire that agent he will not be a Cowboy. France doesn't want him on the Cowboys. That's not his job. He job is to be the next Scott Boras. Dak, in this case, is too stupid to realize that. Dak is not taking care of his money because he is not seeing what happens to his career as the QB of the Jaguars or even Colts for that matter. I need to hear more before I believe there was a deal with Dak and Jerry and they ran out of time. I tend to doubt it but I would put the transition tag on him next year. Ideally, I would have done it this year and gone after Miami's 3 1sts but there were too many moving parts and the entire league knew Dak was never on the block. I look now for Tyrone Crawford to get the $5M paycut or cut offer and maybe they sign Griffen or Clowney. If things ultimately go sour with Dak I do see CAA getting blackballed by the Cowboys and it looks like the rest of the league is taking notice. JJ and the Cowboys are the one team with the reputation for paying players. If they couldn't get a deal done with someone offering to make you the highest paid QB at the time then all of this is BS. Nobody has factored in what happens next season when the cap drops drastically across the board. Dak really screwed himself. Andy Dalton is here now and Cam will be available next year as long as a new supply of blue chips and move veterans. This is going to be the second year of a crazy oversupplied QB market. It's insane to think Dallas will not have and USE that leverage. I am shocked Brady isn't the Dallas QB right now. It's ONLY because JJ loves Dak.

Rayman70 said:

More I ponder this, I look at Tom Brady and how he was the ultimate team guy and signed team friendly deals with NE so they could build a winner. Now compare that to Dak..a great dude on and off the field, but the 1 difference is, his agent and his own agenda.

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Holy revisionist history, Batman!

Tom Brady got a four year extension after two years in the league. Two years later he got another extension. He was paid $75 million his first five years in the league - over 15 years ago - that's like a guy getting over $100 million now.

Brady had pocketed over $125 million (and married someone richer than him) before "the ultimate team guy" signed his first team friendly deal in his 13th season.

aria said:

I always here that but c’mon, some people act like Brady would be in the poor house if it weren’t for Gisele. I’m sure the hundreds of millions he’s worth on his own was still more than enough for him to take a team friendly deal.

Brady is all about winning, he’s an absolute competitor, there’s no doubt in my mind that he would have still taken a pay cut (with or without Gisele) if he truly thought that it would give them a legitimate shot at another championship. I don’t think he would enjoy playing football if it meant making more money but going out there and playing with a bunch of scrubs.

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Brady pocketed over $125 million before he signed his first team friendly deal in his 13th season. Comparing him to Dak's current situation is ridiculous.

Rayman70 said:

well said man. I think he wants close to Mahomes money.

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He wanted a four-year deal, like Goff and Wentz got. Not sure why you feel the need to just make things up when the truth isn't hard to find.

visionary said:

Yes, the GM/HC who never paid Brady top dollar is going to pay Dak 40 mill/year? LOL

If Dak signs in NE, he will sign for no more than 30 mill/year and be “happy” at the “respect “ shown to him by NE and be “upset” at the “disrespect “ shown to him by the Cowboys

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Might be closer to 25.

Jake said:

Brady pocketed over $125 million before he signed his first team friendly deal in his 13th season. Comparing him to Dak's current situation is ridiculous.

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Sorry Jake, not really true. His first top contract was 06.

glimmerman said:

They found out yesterday that the money wasn’t changing but they changed the way he was to get it. And boom all the sudden he saw that 50 million up front and would have signed that. So...

Now JJ knows to open the next negotiations with a big number signing bonus. If he is flopping this year then maybe trade him and being in Dalton. At that point Dak will become a backup and his agent cost him 100 million dollars by pulling the deal after game 3.. Daks big pay day will have been 31 million and then back up money unless a team wants him for less money than was offered yesterday.

What I think happens is we get better this year and make a run in the playoffs, how deep I don’t know. So then we go back to the table and Daks agent starts over again wanting the actual 45 million this time. We come back at 38 with a big signing bonus. If we settle for 38-40 then his agents plan worked. If we can’t settle then we tag him again for 37 and see if he signs the tag. Some of the offer and ask may hinge on what watson and jackson does and gets offered this year. If they take team friendly deals it will be great. Maybe they sign for 37-38.

Daks agent can’t make up the money he has lost him. I hope he fires france and gets a agent that’s a little more reasonable.

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Dak is like that one dude on "Deal or no Deal" who was offered over $750,000 but turned it down trying to hit a million and ended up w/ only 2 grand.

Jake said:

Holy revisionist history, Batman!

Tom Brady got a four year extension after two years in the league. Two years later he got another extension. He was paid $75 million his first five years in the league - over 15 years ago - that's like a guy getting over $100 million now.

Brady had pocketed over $125 million (and married someone richer than him) before "the ultimate team guy" signed his first team friendly deal in his 13th season.

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in black and white, decide for yourselves.
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/tom-bradys-patriots-contracts-through-years#slide-1

WillieBeamen said:

All I know is his Days are numbered here unless he humbles himself, fires France, and takes our fair offer

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I think firing France could lead to more negotiations certainly, and get him a slightly better offer to agree to.

I think the whole thing is pretty simple to understand. They were offering $33-35 million and wanted 5 years. Dak wanted 4 years. Franchising him cost $31 million this year and $37 million next. Average them out and it's right in middle of the money they were offering him anyway. If he didn't accpet the 5 years, you let him play on the tag for one year and franchise him again. Offer him the 4 year deal next year and you will have basically manufactured your desired 5 year deal. If he doesn't have a great year this year or you don't even play, his numbers could come down and you could use the non exclusive tag next time. If he has a great year and looks like the guy you want under MM, then you pay him what it takes. It may be a little more but it would come with far less risk. I'll take that all day. Giving in to everything he wanted right now is too risking. I think the way they played it is the best possible thing that could have happened. The team now has every possible option still available to them and another year of Dak have to earn his deal and prove himself to be more consistent.